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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) 20:45 - May 20 with 4821 viewsPerublue


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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 01:21 - May 21 with 1349 viewsBlueBadger

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 01:20 - May 21 by BlueBadger

Spoiler alert: the doctor only turns up when you're cooling. It's the work experience person who sees you die.


Holy sh1t, that was bleak.

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:44 - May 21 with 1289 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 01:20 - May 21 by BlueBadger

Spoiler alert: the doctor only turns up when you're cooling. It's the work experience person who sees you die.


Or even nobody if the alarms go off in the middle of the night.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:56 - May 21 with 1273 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 22:12 - May 20 by PhilTWTD

Good journalism as well on big subjects, nuclear holocaust, the Soviet Union.


I must admit I haven't read his journalism, but his novel The Information deserves a mention.

It is ranked second on this list.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/24/martin-amis-novels-countdown-to-to
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:59 - May 21 with 1264 viewsBluesky

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 01:20 - May 21 by BlueBadger

Spoiler alert: the doctor only turns up when you're cooling. It's the work experience person who sees you die.


I read this post out to Mrs Bluesky.
She said, " That wasn't BlueBadger was it?"
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:59 - May 21 with 1263 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:56 - May 21 by DJR

I must admit I haven't read his journalism, but his novel The Information deserves a mention.

It is ranked second on this list.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/aug/24/martin-amis-novels-countdown-to-to


It got such bad reviews at the time but I thought it was good, even if I wouldn't put it up there with London Fields, Money or Time's Arrow. I liked Night Train a lot as well and Yellow Dog from the later books if I remember rightly, although I can remember very little about it now. And Dead Babies was the first of his I read. The fire hose bit in that makes me laugh just thinking about it.

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:15 - May 21 with 1229 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:59 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

It got such bad reviews at the time but I thought it was good, even if I wouldn't put it up there with London Fields, Money or Time's Arrow. I liked Night Train a lot as well and Yellow Dog from the later books if I remember rightly, although I can remember very little about it now. And Dead Babies was the first of his I read. The fire hose bit in that makes me laugh just thinking about it.

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I thought it was a very good book (and maybe the bad reviews influenced me because it was much better than they suggested) but this from Wikipedia may go some way to explaining the bad reviews.

"Amis came under attack for two reasons around the time The Information was published. Firstly he had dropped his agent, Pat Kavanagh, wife of Julian Barnes, and had signed up with Andrew Wylie, perceived to be a more aggressive agent. Amis and Barnes had been friends but this caused a rift that was played out in public. Secondly he received an almost unheard of advance for a literary novel (approximately £500,000 according to most sources) which caused what was described as resentment and envy amongst his peers."
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:19 - May 21 with 1217 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 01:20 - May 21 by BlueBadger

Spoiler alert: the doctor only turns up when you're cooling. It's the work experience person who sees you die.


He wrote it in the eighties, so probably different then, although I'm not sure he was being quite that literal. Work experience person wouldn't really work for the plot of the book anyway.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:21 - May 21 with 1214 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:15 - May 21 by DJR

I thought it was a very good book (and maybe the bad reviews influenced me because it was much better than they suggested) but this from Wikipedia may go some way to explaining the bad reviews.

"Amis came under attack for two reasons around the time The Information was published. Firstly he had dropped his agent, Pat Kavanagh, wife of Julian Barnes, and had signed up with Andrew Wylie, perceived to be a more aggressive agent. Amis and Barnes had been friends but this caused a rift that was played out in public. Secondly he received an almost unheard of advance for a literary novel (approximately £500,000 according to most sources) which caused what was described as resentment and envy amongst his peers."
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I remember the furore and I think it did lead to some of the negativity surrounding the book. As the third of the 'London' books I'd say it ranks third but is still very good. I don't think I've read it since it came out, so need to reread it at some point.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:47 - May 21 with 1198 viewsRyorry

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:21 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

I remember the furore and I think it did lead to some of the negativity surrounding the book. As the third of the 'London' books I'd say it ranks third but is still very good. I don't think I've read it since it came out, so need to reread it at some point.


You do realise that all this encouragement people are getting to re-read his books may well result in them spending less time on this forum don’t you?! ;)

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:32 - May 21 with 1161 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:47 - May 21 by Ryorry

You do realise that all this encouragement people are getting to re-read his books may well result in them spending less time on this forum don’t you?! ;)

#PhilHamsServicesToLiterature


That's a good point, although might lead to more erudite threads.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:35 - May 21 with 1150 viewsKeno

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:32 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

That's a good point, although might lead to more erudite threads.


you want 'stickier' threads?

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:55 - May 21 with 1134 viewsBlueBadger

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 09:59 - May 21 by Bluesky

I read this post out to Mrs Bluesky.
She said, " That wasn't BlueBadger was it?"


Being notorious isn't as good as being famous, but I'll take it.

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 12:53 - May 21 with 1109 viewsRyorry

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:32 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

That's a good point, although might lead to more erudite threads.


Dream on!

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:44 - May 21 with 1086 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 10:21 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

I remember the furore and I think it did lead to some of the negativity surrounding the book. As the third of the 'London' books I'd say it ranks third but is still very good. I don't think I've read it since it came out, so need to reread it at some point.


I also wonder if it was down in part to the human emotion that Gore Vidal perfectly described.

"Every time a friend succeeds, something inside me dies."
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:52 - May 21 with 1075 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:44 - May 21 by DJR

I also wonder if it was down in part to the human emotion that Gore Vidal perfectly described.

"Every time a friend succeeds, something inside me dies."


I'm sure there was a bit of that, which, of course, was the theme of the novel itself.

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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:58 - May 21 with 1050 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 12:53 - May 21 by Ryorry

Dream on!


Maybe there ought to be alternative versions of the General/Football topic, which don't involve people trading insults.

On the other hand, maybe that would be a bit dull.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:59 - May 21 with 1045 viewsDJR

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 13:52 - May 21 by PhilTWTD

I'm sure there was a bit of that, which, of course, was the theme of the novel itself.



And no doubt Amis would have sensed the irony, and taken it in his stride.
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RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 14:39 - May 21 with 1024 viewsPhilTWTD

RIP Martin Amis n/t (n/t) on 11:35 - May 21 by Keno

you want 'stickier' threads?


Erudite, not Araldite.
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