| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin 22:53 - Jul 12 with 7197 views | Asa |
Someone who can play on the left or the right or as the lone striker.
But ultimately knitting things together behind the front man he’s a huge upgrade on Chaplin.
I love Conor. One of my favourite players in these two seasons. But as I have said before he offered almost nothing but goals in the first half of the season, which is fine, but they dried up after Christmas and he was completely missing in so many games.
Szmodics is just everywhere. Can pick a pass, scores goals, really astute addition and it won’t remotely be instead of Philogene. It’ll be something we’ve been looking at no doubt. |  | | |  |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 09:28 - Jul 13 with 1698 views | textbackup |
I tend to agree, he’s got more athleticism about him, that’s not a stain on CCC, it’s just what it is. |  |
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| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 10:04 - Jul 13 with 1611 views | Vegtablue |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 05:57 - Jul 13 by RIPbobby |
You'll upset a few with this comment. Some on here are very 1 dimensional and set in their ways. Tread carefully friend. |
If you genuinely think the gap from Chaplin to Szmodics is massive, the PL is going to terrify you. [Post edited 13 Jul 2024 10:04]
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| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 10:16 - Jul 13 with 1578 views | billlm |
Chaplin has been the man for two years here amazing signing,
I think he's probably now reached his ceiling top 8 championship,
Love the guy,
He as well as a few others REALLY deserves a chance to play some part this season,
Szmodics for that price is deffinatly worth a punt, |  | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 11:18 - Jul 13 with 1527 views | Asa |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 10:04 - Jul 13 by Vegtablue |
If you genuinely think the gap from Chaplin to Szmodics is massive, the PL is going to terrify you. [Post edited 13 Jul 2024 10:04]
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There’s very much a reason why Chaplin was involved less and less towards the end of last season.
Have gone on record as saying he’s been one of, if not, my favorite player but also not blind to the fact that everything Chaplin does well is stuff that I can’t see him being able to do in the Premier League.
By contrast Burns, who I wasn’t sure would be that great in the Championship and might need to be replaced, excelled and he’s someone I actually see doing really well on the counter in the Premier League.
Szmodics attributes in the Premier League will be far more effective. The gap between the two might not be huge in the Championship to some degree but Chaplin won’t cut it a level above, whereas I can see Hirst for example doing really well.
I’d have said last season and the one before Chaplin was a better player than Burns or Hirst. But a division up I think that largely makes what Chaplin does brilliantly redundant. | | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 13:49 - Jul 13 with 1468 views | Vegtablue |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 11:18 - Jul 13 by Asa |
There’s very much a reason why Chaplin was involved less and less towards the end of last season.
Have gone on record as saying he’s been one of, if not, my favorite player but also not blind to the fact that everything Chaplin does well is stuff that I can’t see him being able to do in the Premier League.
By contrast Burns, who I wasn’t sure would be that great in the Championship and might need to be replaced, excelled and he’s someone I actually see doing really well on the counter in the Premier League.
Szmodics attributes in the Premier League will be far more effective. The gap between the two might not be huge in the Championship to some degree but Chaplin won’t cut it a level above, whereas I can see Hirst for example doing really well.
I’d have said last season and the one before Chaplin was a better player than Burns or Hirst. But a division up I think that largely makes what Chaplin does brilliantly redundant. |
I'm baffled that you thought a player who scored or assisted in every other game last season had such little involvement or influence. Each to their own of course, but Chaplin's 23/24 season objectively wipes the floor with Szmodics' second best; you'd have been tearing your proverbial hair out watching him for Blackburn the year before last.
And "involved less and less towards the end of last season" is rather misleading (deliberately?), as it implies he became a bit-part player. He was benched for Watford and Coventry. He started in all the others. Only Hladky received more starts across the season I reckon, given Leif's January knock and Morsy's suspensions. Conor was benched in those two because of Omari's increasing influence in the middle, little shame in that. If Szmodics finds himself competing with Omari for regular starts this coming season, good luck to the fella.
On attributes, I think the two are very similar. Marginal differences in size, passing ability. Szmodics has a slightly better engine, he's maybe a touch quicker too, breaks the line more. He hasn't made a habit of winning tackles, duels, possession in the final third, throughout his career, nor has he ever been the man to dribble past players like a tricky winger/AM would. Given his work-rate I'm sure McKenna can help him be more effective at some of the former stuff, like increasing turnover ball, but he can't bless him with an extra six inches in height or wizard-like feet. If his finishing last year is the new normal then we've happily got an upgrade on our hands, I don't dispute that, but I'm mindful of when a player hits freakishly improved numbers at the halfway point in their career. I remember the crazy season in which Weimann scored 22 goals for Bristol City, never to be repeated.
We'll soon see if the cliff edge falls directly between Chaplin and Szmodics's talent, such that one is rendered useless in the PL while the other thrives, despite modest differences between the two. Hope you're wrong obviously. A massive upgrade on either would be Trossard in my eyes. | | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 14:09 - Jul 13 with 1451 views | Asa |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 13:49 - Jul 13 by Vegtablue |
I'm baffled that you thought a player who scored or assisted in every other game last season had such little involvement or influence. Each to their own of course, but Chaplin's 23/24 season objectively wipes the floor with Szmodics' second best; you'd have been tearing your proverbial hair out watching him for Blackburn the year before last.
And "involved less and less towards the end of last season" is rather misleading (deliberately?), as it implies he became a bit-part player. He was benched for Watford and Coventry. He started in all the others. Only Hladky received more starts across the season I reckon, given Leif's January knock and Morsy's suspensions. Conor was benched in those two because of Omari's increasing influence in the middle, little shame in that. If Szmodics finds himself competing with Omari for regular starts this coming season, good luck to the fella.
On attributes, I think the two are very similar. Marginal differences in size, passing ability. Szmodics has a slightly better engine, he's maybe a touch quicker too, breaks the line more. He hasn't made a habit of winning tackles, duels, possession in the final third, throughout his career, nor has he ever been the man to dribble past players like a tricky winger/AM would. Given his work-rate I'm sure McKenna can help him be more effective at some of the former stuff, like increasing turnover ball, but he can't bless him with an extra six inches in height or wizard-like feet. If his finishing last year is the new normal then we've happily got an upgrade on our hands, I don't dispute that, but I'm mindful of when a player hits freakishly improved numbers at the halfway point in their career. I remember the crazy season in which Weimann scored 22 goals for Bristol City, never to be repeated.
We'll soon see if the cliff edge falls directly between Chaplin and Szmodics's talent, such that one is rendered useless in the PL while the other thrives, despite modest differences between the two. Hope you're wrong obviously. A massive upgrade on either would be Trossard in my eyes. |
You’ve taken involved less and less to mean starts.
I’m talking about his involvement overall. 3 goals after Christmas as opposed to 10 before. Fewer assists in that time, balls to set people away.
Of course he had his moments. But we changed the way we attacked slightly and Chaplin was almost invisible in some games as Davis, Burns and Hutchison became completely key to how we played. Chaplin and Broadhead were both involved to a fraction of before Christmas.
As teams worked out how to stop us, other players stepped up. From Norwich at home both Chaplin and Broadhead were off the boil. Sure Swansea and Blackburn away we saw glimpses of what they could do but our general play evolved to mean both became less important whilst the way we played changed to mean that Hutchison and, on occasion, Sarmiento became a lot more vital with their ability to turn and run at pace and beat players. Something that Broadhead has but didn’t show and something Chaplin has always done through intelligence rather than raw pace and trickery. | | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 14:38 - Jul 13 with 1419 views | Vegtablue |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 14:09 - Jul 13 by Asa |
You’ve taken involved less and less to mean starts.
I’m talking about his involvement overall. 3 goals after Christmas as opposed to 10 before. Fewer assists in that time, balls to set people away.
Of course he had his moments. But we changed the way we attacked slightly and Chaplin was almost invisible in some games as Davis, Burns and Hutchison became completely key to how we played. Chaplin and Broadhead were both involved to a fraction of before Christmas.
As teams worked out how to stop us, other players stepped up. From Norwich at home both Chaplin and Broadhead were off the boil. Sure Swansea and Blackburn away we saw glimpses of what they could do but our general play evolved to mean both became less important whilst the way we played changed to mean that Hutchison and, on occasion, Sarmiento became a lot more vital with their ability to turn and run at pace and beat players. Something that Broadhead has but didn’t show and something Chaplin has always done through intelligence rather than raw pace and trickery. |
Agree to disagree. | | | |
| “Massive upgrade” is really overstating it on 09:44 - Jul 15 with 1236 views | Dyland |
I think it’s massively underwhelming after the Philogene link.
FWIW though, I suspect Chappers has hit his ceiling. I may wrong of course but would be rather surprised if he’s a mainstay of the first eleven this season. |  |
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| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 09:55 - Jul 15 with 1192 views | keighleyblue |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 08:24 - Jul 13 by Warkystache |
Chappers is one of my favourite players but even I acknowledge he'll probably be used as an impact sub next season. He's the Eric Gates to Hirst's Mariner. Think Szmodics is the Alan Brazil |
Nah, Szmodics is the Keith Bertschin |  | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 10:03 - Jul 15 with 1148 views | Horsham |
IF Szmodics comes I think he’ll be more competing with Broadhead and Harness for the left 10 position rather than Chaplin, who I think is more competing with Hutchison. |  | | |
| “Massive upgrade” is really overstating it on 10:05 - Jul 15 with 1137 views | TrumptonBlue |
| “Massive upgrade” is really overstating it on 09:44 - Jul 15 by Dyland |
I think it’s massively underwhelming after the Philogene link.
FWIW though, I suspect Chappers has hit his ceiling. I may wrong of course but would be rather surprised if he’s a mainstay of the first eleven this season. |
It's not often Chappers hits a ceiling. |  | | |
| “Massive upgrade” is really overstating it on 10:44 - Jul 15 with 1034 views | billlm |
| “Massive upgrade” is really overstating it on 09:44 - Jul 15 by Dyland |
I think it’s massively underwhelming after the Philogene link.
FWIW though, I suspect Chappers has hit his ceiling. I may wrong of course but would be rather surprised if he’s a mainstay of the first eleven this season. |
Our main man until start of January 24,
I agree hit his ceiling top six championship player at best,
Hope he gets a little game time in the premier he deserves at least that, | | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 12:39 - Jul 15 with 912 views | farkenhell |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 09:55 - Jul 15 by keighleyblue |
Nah, Szmodics is the Keith Bertschin |
You mean he's going to sign for the Budgies? | | | |
| Szmodics is a massive upgrade on Chaplin on 13:20 - Jul 15 with 841 views | baxterbasics |
I agree he would be an upgrade, but like others here said, 'massive' might be pushing it until we see him in action. Good to have options for KM certainly. |  |
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