| Poorer pensioners? 17:10 - Jul 29 with 12847 views | DJR |
From the Guardian.
"Reeves says pensioners not in receipt of pension credit will no longer get the winter fuel payment.
That means it will only go to poorer pensioners."
I can understand the simplicity of tying it to pension credit, but there are a lot of pensioners just above the pension credit limit who are poor and rely on the winter fuel payment to heat their homes.
My parents--in-law are a case in point. They are just above the pension credit limit so miss out on a whole range of benefits etc which make pensioners on pension credit much better off than them. And they will be even more so if my parents-in-law lose the two winter fuel payments they get.
And because they don't have enough money to survive more generally, especially when unexpected bills come along, they rely heavily on us to help them get by. A stair lift, no cheap option, is just one example. [Post edited 29 Jul 2024 17:13]
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| Poorer pensioners? on 19:43 - Jul 30 with 794 views | Churchman |
| Poorer pensioners? on 18:50 - Jul 30 by OldFart71 |
It always amazes me how Governments prattle on about saving for your old age and then do everything they can to prevent pensioners being self sufficient. Take a previous Labour Government under the leadership of good old Gordon Brown. He decided in his infinite wisdom to tax share dividends. These were dividends that many Company's relied upon to finance Final Salary Pensions. It was once said we had pensions the envy of the World. Despite the fact that it only gave the Government a few million quid it wiped out final salary pensions. The Tories a few years ago tried to resurrect Company pensions, but it was a half hearted effort where Company's could offer poor schemes that didn't benefit the employee and the employee could opt out of the scheme. I know for a fact that this cutting of the fuel allowance will hit an elderly neighbour who because of the pathetically low personal allowance pays a bit of tax on her pension as she get's a bit on top of the State Pension. A person on the minimum wage at £11.44 doing a 38 hour week will take home around £6,000 more after tax and N.I. than a pensioner. That can't be right, can it. I also know of people on benefits who smoke, drink and gamble. Not saying everyone on benefits is rolling in it, but some are. |
I’d add through catastrophic regulatory changes by Brown (FSA creation, no control because able and FSA had no idea who was looking after what) the financial crash here was worse than it should have been. Pension funds in particular took a hammering. What did Brownshorts do (other than flogging off the gold for a bag of Quavers - the ‘Brown bottom’)? He regulated pension companies to such an extent that funds could never take advantage of the recovery. |  | | |
| Yep, my old fella.... on 20:28 - Jul 30 with 726 views | Churchman |
| Yep, my old fella.... on 13:57 - Jul 30 by Buhrer |
I'm working. I have a lot of relevant work experience.I'm not talking about not supporting the vulnerable. I'm not talking about the state pension. The question really is Why should I pay djrs homeowning relatives electric bill? Why should generation rent protect their equity. Is this leverage that will force sales? I hope so.
Conveniently forgot the vote 8 years ago? Look around you. Who can forget. There's no humour yetl, but you can bang your pans for me every Thursday this winter lol. |
Why should you pay anything that doesn’t benefit you? Especially for a load of old coffin dodgers who deserve to lose all they’ve worked for because people who contribute need it. Cutting to the chase is that your view?
I’ve made my view on winter allowance and indeed Christmas bonus known in another post.
As for your final paragraph, I didn’t ‘conveniently forget’ to vote in the referendum and my views on it, many of them borne of experience, have been made on here far too often to repeat. | | | |
| Poorer pensioners? on 16:32 - Jul 31 with 585 views | mutters |
If the Tories would have introduced this then they would have be labeled as the Nasty Party. |  |
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| Poorer pensioners? on 23:15 - Aug 1 with 446 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Poorer pensioners? on 16:32 - Jul 31 by mutters |
If the Tories would have introduced this then they would have be labeled as the Nasty Party. |
If the Tories hadn't lowered NI to try and buy of the public it wouldn't have come to this |  | | |
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