| I can understand why people are nervous 23:41 - Aug 11 with 6907 views | Guthrum |
After all, we are constantly told that the step up the the Prem "is enormous", "huge". Massive hype. Best league in the world, etc., etc.
But we've just watched the team as it is currently constituted beat Europa League qualifying teams, which finished 7th in the Bundesliga, 5th in Ligue 1. Two clean sheets. Opposition similar to a lot of what we'll be facing over the coming months. We beat Wolves last season, Southampton twice, teams we'll face during this campaign.
And we haven't even finished building the squad. Almost certainly there will be more players to come before the end of the month. We have a gifted, Prem experienced manager in Kieran McKenna, with a top-notch backroom staff and excellent facilities behind him.
Yes, it will be a stiff test. There will be heavy defeats along the way. But I fail to see how the evidence justifies such deep gloom - terror, even - among the fanbase. We have the momentum, spirit and squad to give it a good go. Which I'm sure is McKenna's aim.
We are in the Prem on merit. We are not interlopers under false pretences. We are no more underdogs than the teams which only just avoided relegation last season, the two who came up with us. Indeed, we lack some of their off-field issues.
Be encouraged, we have a fighting chance! |  |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:18 - Aug 12 with 685 views | NthQldITFC |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 12:09 - Aug 12 by wischip |
Having looked at a few season previews it looks like quite a lot of experts are predicting we will finish in the bottom 3. Sounds just like 20 years ago all over again. Hopefully this means we will be underestimated for a while and get some points on the board early on before we get noticed. Even if we're 2-3 players short, we're organised, follow a system, the majority of the team have played together for 1-2 seasons already, don't need more gelling time. I'm about 20% nervous but 80% excited at the prospect of us proving them wrong. |
Quite a few are predicting that we'll finish bottom three which is a natural assumption, certainly for people who are not so familiar with our progress and consistency over the last cuppla years, but I'm quite pleased and surprised by the not insignificant number who don't have us in their bottom three, and tend to think that these are the ones who know something about football! |  |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:24 - Aug 12 with 673 views | itfcsuth |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:10 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
Do you believe any of that?
It’s no big deal being in the Prem - just about every team in the Championship has been there and destroyed their finances, if not the club…. A route that Town have trodden themselves last time they were there.
Last two visits lasted three years and two years = and contained some of the most painful viewing most of us can remember…albeit with some memorable highlights thrown in. The big difference then was Town had a functioning youth set uo - which is no longer the case. Zone year sojourn looks very much on the cards - despite FFP assistance
Town look very much like this season’s Burnley to me….. overhyped manager with one very good season in the championship in which he was outsmarted by most of the top 6…. Most would say it doesn’t look overly hopeful and if matches against Liverpool and oil State Sportswashing Project FC finish with a minus 9 goal difference that’ll take some clawing back. |
Good lord.
As far as wildy pessimistic posts go, this is up there with one of the worst I have ever read on the forum.
'An overhyped manager', I don't even know where to start with that, one of the craziest things I have ever seen.
The man took us from L1 (which managers had failed to do before), playing the most incredibly dominant and attractive football, then through the Championship with virtually the same group of players and now we are about to lineup against Premier League & Champions League winners in the last 5 years.
We have zero correlation to Burnley other than promotion - they spent heavy in the Championship, bought far and wide in the PL and reshuffled their pack entirely but changed nothing tactically - we are almost the polar opposite in that respect.
We're financially stable, regardless if the worst were to happen, we're on a continued journey in my opinion to be a top 10, transfer profitable, sustainable club - very much in the Brighton build.
I'll go as far to say this is the worst post I have read on here! [Post edited 12 Aug 2024 14:25]
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:30 - Aug 12 with 654 views | NthQldITFC |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:10 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
Do you believe any of that?
It’s no big deal being in the Prem - just about every team in the Championship has been there and destroyed their finances, if not the club…. A route that Town have trodden themselves last time they were there.
Last two visits lasted three years and two years = and contained some of the most painful viewing most of us can remember…albeit with some memorable highlights thrown in. The big difference then was Town had a functioning youth set uo - which is no longer the case. Zone year sojourn looks very much on the cards - despite FFP assistance
Town look very much like this season’s Burnley to me….. overhyped manager with one very good season in the championship in which he was outsmarted by most of the top 6…. Most would say it doesn’t look overly hopeful and if matches against Liverpool and oil State Sportswashing Project FC finish with a minus 9 goal difference that’ll take some clawing back. |
'...contained some of the most painful viewing most of us can remember'
I would have thought that you were creaming your tweeds at those 'painful viewing' moments, no? | |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:42 - Aug 12 with 610 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:24 - Aug 12 by itfcsuth |
Good lord.
As far as wildy pessimistic posts go, this is up there with one of the worst I have ever read on the forum.
'An overhyped manager', I don't even know where to start with that, one of the craziest things I have ever seen.
The man took us from L1 (which managers had failed to do before), playing the most incredibly dominant and attractive football, then through the Championship with virtually the same group of players and now we are about to lineup against Premier League & Champions League winners in the last 5 years.
We have zero correlation to Burnley other than promotion - they spent heavy in the Championship, bought far and wide in the PL and reshuffled their pack entirely but changed nothing tactically - we are almost the polar opposite in that respect.
We're financially stable, regardless if the worst were to happen, we're on a continued journey in my opinion to be a top 10, transfer profitable, sustainable club - very much in the Brighton build.
I'll go as far to say this is the worst post I have read on here! [Post edited 12 Aug 2024 14:25]
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A tad over-reactive. Burnley were more impressive than Town in division two aka the championship and their wonder manager hadn’t a clue how to adjust to debilitating defeats in the Prem. I merely suggest, based on what happened in the championship that Town might be very defensively vulnerable based on their style of play and struggles against better teams = and OK if you dont like overhyped, inexperienced, manager with zero Premiership experience
I think you can discount the third division…. Town were money dopers on a scale that would make Man City blush and still contrived to finish below PLymouth
There’s not a hope in hell of being ‘sustainable’ like Brighton who are one of the most indebted clubs in world football, a huge debt being serviced by a gambling fan who runs the club. Town have to generate profit for their ever expanding ownership.
Granted there are plenty of clubs who have overextended themselves in the Prem who look vulnerable - particularly if FFP lends a helping hand…. But to my mind, assuming Leicester are already doomed, Town still have to claw their way above two other teams. - and I doubt one of them will be Southampton.
Time will tell |  |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:50 - Aug 12 with 589 views | Ryorry |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:15 - Aug 12 by ibbleobble |
In that case I will understand your point even less. The general mood on here has been anything less than over confident and we can all agree it’s not KMs MO either. |
Since you seem determined to misunderstand what I wrote, here is what I *actually* said again:
“I did also wonder if the teams we beat abroad in the friendlies this preseason are a true reflection of the type of opposition we’ll be playing in the Prem.”
And yes I did see at least a couple of people say that they were sure we’ll be fine because of our preseason friendlies’ results, and had them in mind. |  |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 15:10 - Aug 12 with 568 views | itfcsuth |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:42 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
A tad over-reactive. Burnley were more impressive than Town in division two aka the championship and their wonder manager hadn’t a clue how to adjust to debilitating defeats in the Prem. I merely suggest, based on what happened in the championship that Town might be very defensively vulnerable based on their style of play and struggles against better teams = and OK if you dont like overhyped, inexperienced, manager with zero Premiership experience
I think you can discount the third division…. Town were money dopers on a scale that would make Man City blush and still contrived to finish below PLymouth
There’s not a hope in hell of being ‘sustainable’ like Brighton who are one of the most indebted clubs in world football, a huge debt being serviced by a gambling fan who runs the club. Town have to generate profit for their ever expanding ownership.
Granted there are plenty of clubs who have overextended themselves in the Prem who look vulnerable - particularly if FFP lends a helping hand…. But to my mind, assuming Leicester are already doomed, Town still have to claw their way above two other teams. - and I doubt one of them will be Southampton.
Time will tell |
I would strongly suggest Town were far far more impressive than Burnley at Championship level - if by your own measurements, spending a bundle of cash discards any credibility to the season you've had we can discard Burnley Championship campaign (bearing in mind they spent around £10m on a ST in January that season).
I would suggest that to go through L1 and then straight through the Championship with virtually the same group, record 97 points and score more goals than Burnley did in the Championship is far more impressive.
Tony Bloom has gone on record to say they are working towards sustainability, you can't click your fingers and that happen overnight - whilst there is debt owed to Bloom they are still on a successful path to sustainability, recorded high pre tax profits ever, have a bundle of credit owed from other clubs and transfer policy continues to generate high revenue from sales - that is the blueprint we are working towards.
I'm not going back and forward with somebody who is on here imo talking such nonsense. Enjoy the season, enjoy the journey we have been on, and enjoy the journey we want to continue to go on! | | | |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 15:27 - Aug 12 with 545 views | Ryorry |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 15:10 - Aug 12 by itfcsuth |
I would strongly suggest Town were far far more impressive than Burnley at Championship level - if by your own measurements, spending a bundle of cash discards any credibility to the season you've had we can discard Burnley Championship campaign (bearing in mind they spent around £10m on a ST in January that season).
I would suggest that to go through L1 and then straight through the Championship with virtually the same group, record 97 points and score more goals than Burnley did in the Championship is far more impressive.
Tony Bloom has gone on record to say they are working towards sustainability, you can't click your fingers and that happen overnight - whilst there is debt owed to Bloom they are still on a successful path to sustainability, recorded high pre tax profits ever, have a bundle of credit owed from other clubs and transfer policy continues to generate high revenue from sales - that is the blueprint we are working towards.
I'm not going back and forward with somebody who is on here imo talking such nonsense. Enjoy the season, enjoy the journey we have been on, and enjoy the journey we want to continue to go on! |
Well said, meant to upvote, apologies for fat thumb (now corrected).
Think sensible arguments are wasted on the elephant’s trumpeting though. | |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 16:32 - Aug 12 with 509 views | Garv |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 00:40 - Aug 12 by J2BLUE |
People should just enjoy it. Some on here are taking the joy out of it.
By the end of the window we will have a very good squad. We have enough for Liverpool and City, two games which will not define our season.
People keep talking about Ladapo. I would be amazed if he plays a minute against either of those. He may be on the bench but I don't think he plays due to the three club rule. We would be relying on someone taking him on a season long loan. Also, if he gets injured we're paying him to stay here. It's just not a GC/Ashton move to have him play, especially if Al-Hamadi has 30 minutes in him.
We're a bit short but it's not a crisis. Just try and enjoy the occasion. |
The split of people within the fan base (any fan base really), some just wanting to enjoy football for what it is and the entertainment factor, and the rest constantly holding their club to high standards and demanding they do things in a certain way, while also getting results, gets a bit tiring.
Obviously you want to be able to do both but some people tend to be swayed very hard one way or another.
It's why so many people clapped the team off the pitch at the end of the Birmingham game and so many other people angrily mock that for applauding the team to relegation. Like it or not fans enjoyed how we had played at times during the second half of the season, generally the Lambert hatred gets in the way of that.
Is what it is I guess. |  |
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| I can understand why people are nervous on 18:20 - Aug 12 with 439 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| I can understand why people are nervous on 14:42 - Aug 12 by ElephantintheRoom |
A tad over-reactive. Burnley were more impressive than Town in division two aka the championship and their wonder manager hadn’t a clue how to adjust to debilitating defeats in the Prem. I merely suggest, based on what happened in the championship that Town might be very defensively vulnerable based on their style of play and struggles against better teams = and OK if you dont like overhyped, inexperienced, manager with zero Premiership experience
I think you can discount the third division…. Town were money dopers on a scale that would make Man City blush and still contrived to finish below PLymouth
There’s not a hope in hell of being ‘sustainable’ like Brighton who are one of the most indebted clubs in world football, a huge debt being serviced by a gambling fan who runs the club. Town have to generate profit for their ever expanding ownership.
Granted there are plenty of clubs who have overextended themselves in the Prem who look vulnerable - particularly if FFP lends a helping hand…. But to my mind, assuming Leicester are already doomed, Town still have to claw their way above two other teams. - and I doubt one of them will be Southampton.
Time will tell |
Why is Elephant still allowed on this forum?
His sole prodject is to wind up.
Oh I get it.
Even idiots should be allowed their say.
It's called free speach.
But
I dont have to agree with what he says or more importently his negative attitude. |  | | |
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