| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy 19:37 - Sep 16 with 1746 views | Mullet |
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/16000-people-were-blocked-from-voting-in-the
There's a petition at the end of this, so it's bias is fairly obvious. However, it does seem as though barriers to voting only strengthen the status quo.
I doubt Labour's victory would have been much bigger given the scale of the rout, but I do agree with the principle that as many people as possible should get to vote. Alongside plenty of other reforms probably needed to our system. |  |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 20:22 - Sep 16 with 1649 views | NthQldITFC |
I'm one of those 'lefties' who thinks that the principle of being required to positively identify yourself in order to vote (or in various other situations) isn't either a burden or an infringement of liberties of any kind. Responsibility cuts both ways as far as I'm concerned. |  |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 20:25 - Sep 16 with 1630 views | Help |
Totally disagree
If you want to vote and dont have a valid form of ID. Postal vote, it is that simple. No ID required. |  |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 20:35 - Sep 16 with 1592 views | blueasfook |
All you need to get a voter ID is your NI number and a photo. That's hardly a great blocker to prevent people who don't have other forms of photographic ID. |  |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 21:07 - Sep 16 with 1539 views | Ftnfwest |
Blimey ease of mullers. Another 2% of the vote would have given them 620 seats! |  | | |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 22:10 - Sep 16 with 1446 views | Mullet |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 20:22 - Sep 16 by NthQldITFC |
I'm one of those 'lefties' who thinks that the principle of being required to positively identify yourself in order to vote (or in various other situations) isn't either a burden or an infringement of liberties of any kind. Responsibility cuts both ways as far as I'm concerned. |
I agree, but I also think that pragmatism and democracy means we should encourage everyone to turn out and vote.
The idea of forced voting seems too draconian to me, but I also get really frustrated that people don't/won't vote and moan about things.
Part of me wonders if the rancid seeping of Trump et al and the "stop the steal" stuff has had an influence on people, compounded by the sense that the Tories had drained the trough so much voting wouldn't help either.
Combine it with this issue and it does make for interesting debate. | |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 22:13 - Sep 16 with 1437 views | Mullet |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 21:07 - Sep 16 by Ftnfwest |
Blimey ease of mullers. Another 2% of the vote would have given them 620 seats! |
Didn't Rees Mogg suggest it actually hurt the Tories? | |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 08:11 - Sep 17 with 1248 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 22:10 - Sep 16 by Mullet |
I agree, but I also think that pragmatism and democracy means we should encourage everyone to turn out and vote.
The idea of forced voting seems too draconian to me, but I also get really frustrated that people don't/won't vote and moan about things.
Part of me wonders if the rancid seeping of Trump et al and the "stop the steal" stuff has had an influence on people, compounded by the sense that the Tories had drained the trough so much voting wouldn't help either.
Combine it with this issue and it does make for interesting debate. |
Voter ID doesn’t feel authoritarian to me when it’s the norm across most of Europe.
As for turnout, I believe the biggest barrier to voting is FPTP (far too many wasted votes). As someone living in a constituency where the local Tory gets Kim Jong levels of votes, I fully sympathise with those who don’t bother turning up. |  | | |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 08:50 - Sep 17 with 1217 views | Guthrum |
The main thing here is that voter disenfranchisement is a vastly greater issue than impersonation fraud at the ballot box. There have been only a handful of prosecued cases of the latter in several decades.
It's simply never been a problem which needed tackling. Certainly at the cost of making it more difficult for people to excercise their electoral rights. |  |
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| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 11:57 - Sep 17 with 1144 views | mr_bean |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 22:10 - Sep 16 by Mullet |
I agree, but I also think that pragmatism and democracy means we should encourage everyone to turn out and vote.
The idea of forced voting seems too draconian to me, but I also get really frustrated that people don't/won't vote and moan about things.
Part of me wonders if the rancid seeping of Trump et al and the "stop the steal" stuff has had an influence on people, compounded by the sense that the Tories had drained the trough so much voting wouldn't help either.
Combine it with this issue and it does make for interesting debate. |
"The idea of forced voting seems too draconian to me, but I also get really frustrated that people don't/won't vote and moan about things."
Many people have come to the conclusion that FPTP is at the heart of our rotten politics. They may feel that by voting they are implying that they actually support the system, and therefore the only way of signaling their dissatisfaction with it is by not voting at all. | | | |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 16:10 - Sep 17 with 1031 views | DJR |
| Voter ID as a barrier to democracy on 08:50 - Sep 17 by Guthrum |
The main thing here is that voter disenfranchisement is a vastly greater issue than impersonation fraud at the ballot box. There have been only a handful of prosecued cases of the latter in several decades.
It's simply never been a problem which needed tackling. Certainly at the cost of making it more difficult for people to excercise their electoral rights. |
It's also not an easy thing to do because you can't tell whether the person you're trying to impersonate might come along later to try vote, or has already voted by post. |  | | |
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