| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ 15:54 - Dec 19 with 6836 views | giant_stow |
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/property/buy-to-let/evicting-90-year-old-tenan
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It turns out that this couple *had* to evict a 90 year old because Labour *might* have made them pay an extra 11 grand tax. They bought for £164,000 and sold at £425,000. This was all Labour's fault.
Remember that everyone - Labour's fault. |  |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 09:55 - Dec 20 with 888 views | Ryorry |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 08:37 - Dec 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Unfortunately many landlords use S.21 as leverage. If you complain, they have to do the work. Once it is done, the S.21 notice comes in...
It does not take years to go through a possession claim if it has merit and is pursued properly. At worst it might be a couple of months. |
True re abuse of S21 by some landlords.
Also true re landlords having to prove case re reasons for wanting to reclaim possession.
Totally false re length of time court cases take - ask the people who’ve been through it, and their professional organisation, the NRLA with over 100,000 members. And with the new legislation and courts backlog, 1year+ would increase (in consultation with government, the NRLA did ask for court processes to be sped up but I don’t know if anything came of that). |  |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 10:16 - Dec 20 with 849 views | Ryorry |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 08:47 - Dec 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Once again you're speaking on an issue just from your own experience/very narrow perspective. The idea that there's no problem so nothing to fix is nonsense if you look at the bigger picture I'm afraid. What proportion of landlords are elderly non-business landlords who've inherited a property or who've annexed off part as a way of downsizing (i.e. you)? A tiny amount I imagine.
I'm sure you're a great landlord but there's thousands out there who aren't. And loads of people going through the misery of no-fault evictions. "there’s really no issue for good tenants wanting long term security" is so naive it's unreal. As with anything, there's a much bigger picture. |
I didn’t say it was the only category, but the proposed legislation will still result in many of those properties being withdrawn from the market, thereby obviously exacerbating the housing shortage.
The only reason good tenants might have a problem with security of tenure with good landlords is death of the owner, sale of the property, or rent rises that might need to be made to meet with rising costs for landlords - cost of insurance and repairs eg have skyrocketed. I hadn’t raised my rent for 10 years till new tenant moved in a year ago (by £50pcm) and I know I’m not the only one.
I’ve no sympathy with BTL landlords though, that’s no way to run a housing system. [Post edited 20 Dec 2024 10:25]
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 10:24 - Dec 20 with 823 views | Benters |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 08:52 - Dec 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No they haven't.
You said Starmer promised not to put up your energy bill the other day. I asked where he said this... someone else proved he didn't... and you disappeared.
Why you always be posting nonsense? |
My energy bills have gone up though.As for your mortgage only starting two years ago sorry I missed that,I’ve been on a sabbatical. |  |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:40 - Dec 20 with 731 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 10:16 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
I didn’t say it was the only category, but the proposed legislation will still result in many of those properties being withdrawn from the market, thereby obviously exacerbating the housing shortage.
The only reason good tenants might have a problem with security of tenure with good landlords is death of the owner, sale of the property, or rent rises that might need to be made to meet with rising costs for landlords - cost of insurance and repairs eg have skyrocketed. I hadn’t raised my rent for 10 years till new tenant moved in a year ago (by £50pcm) and I know I’m not the only one.
I’ve no sympathy with BTL landlords though, that’s no way to run a housing system. [Post edited 20 Dec 2024 10:25]
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The problem isn't with good landlords. |  |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:41 - Dec 20 with 730 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 10:24 - Dec 20 by Benters |
My energy bills have gone up though.As for your mortgage only starting two years ago sorry I missed that,I’ve been on a sabbatical. |
Yeah, but the point is your energy bills going up is nothing to do with Starmer and he didn't promise otherwise! | |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:56 - Dec 20 with 696 views | StokieBlue |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 05:13 - Dec 20 by Benters |
They said a lot of things to get in power and backed tracked on them.
I am convinced that Granny Harmer and Rachel Thieves hate the natives of this country. |
"hate the natives of this country".
What do you mean by this?
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:59 - Dec 20 with 682 views | positivity |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:56 - Dec 20 by StokieBlue |
"hate the natives of this country".
What do you mean by this?
SB |
neanderthals? to be fair, the government don't give them any special treatment |  |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:01 - Dec 20 with 620 views | redrickstuhaart |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 09:55 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
True re abuse of S21 by some landlords.
Also true re landlords having to prove case re reasons for wanting to reclaim possession.
Totally false re length of time court cases take - ask the people who’ve been through it, and their professional organisation, the NRLA with over 100,000 members. And with the new legislation and courts backlog, 1year+ would increase (in consultation with government, the NRLA did ask for court processes to be sped up but I don’t know if anything came of that). |
Not false at all.
New legislation will make little difference to delays. It will all go into possession listings in the same way as s.21s do now. Some currts have a baclig, but nothing like what you describe. At worst a couple of months i suggest. These are 5 minute hearings. | | | |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:10 - Dec 20 with 609 views | Ryorry |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 11:40 - Dec 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The problem isn't with good landlords. |
But they're being penalised along with the bad ones, so many will take their properties off the market, or turn them into short-term holiday lets instead of long-term ones if they're in a nice area, thus exaerbating the housing shortage. | |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:14 - Dec 20 with 606 views | Ryorry |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:01 - Dec 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Not false at all.
New legislation will make little difference to delays. It will all go into possession listings in the same way as s.21s do now. Some currts have a baclig, but nothing like what you describe. At worst a couple of months i suggest. These are 5 minute hearings. |
Absolutely false - why do you keep refusing to acknowledge those with actual experience/facts? | |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:18 - Dec 20 with 600 views | redrickstuhaart |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:14 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
Absolutely false - why do you keep refusing to acknowledge those with actual experience/facts? |
Because i know a lot about this and what you say is just wrong. Possession claims are listed in weeks not months in the vast majoroty of cases. Outliers where things have become complicated exist, of course. | | | |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:20 - Dec 20 with 598 views | Blueschev |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 05:13 - Dec 20 by Benters |
They said a lot of things to get in power and backed tracked on them.
I am convinced that Granny Harmer and Rachel Thieves hate the natives of this country. |
I'm not sure what election campaign you witnessed but Labour barely said anything to get in to power. |  | | |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:21 - Dec 20 with 590 views | Ryorry |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:18 - Dec 20 by redrickstuhaart |
Because i know a lot about this and what you say is just wrong. Possession claims are listed in weeks not months in the vast majoroty of cases. Outliers where things have become complicated exist, of course. |
You'd better tell the NRLA they've apparently got it all wrong then. | |
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:22 - Dec 20 with 583 views | DJR |
To me the most disturbing aspect of the story is that, in this day and age, a 90 year old is renting and at the mercy of the private rented sector. [Post edited 20 Dec 2024 13:23]
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| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:44 - Dec 20 with 539 views | redrickstuhaart |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:21 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
You'd better tell the NRLA they've apparently got it all wrong then. |
Do refer us to their evidence of routine possessions taking a year. | | | |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 14:14 - Dec 20 with 507 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| ‘We’re evicting our 90-year-old tenant because of Labour’ on 13:10 - Dec 20 by Ryorry |
But they're being penalised along with the bad ones, so many will take their properties off the market, or turn them into short-term holiday lets instead of long-term ones if they're in a nice area, thus exaerbating the housing shortage. |
But surely all legislation is brought in to stop the rogues; if good landlords end up being penalised that's unfortunate but you don't stop the legislation just to keep them happy. I've never had a car crash but I still have to pay car insurance because of those drivers who do cause accidents - and I accept that. There's a million and one bits of legislation that fall under the same point where good people end up being penalised. You do what's best for the majority and the bigger picture.
Jayessess put it perfectly on page 2: "Person with an additional property will face some stressful bureaucracy if they want to make someone homeless" is not a problem of any significance next to homelessness, exploitation of tenants, slum landlords etc.
Most landlords are in it to make money... and they'll continue to do so. This will have very little impact on the housing shortage IMO. | |
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