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So have watched back the Joao Pedro challenge on Walton, and then considered the VAR response: "The referee’s call of yellow card for João Pedro was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed that the challenge was not serious foul play." While I agree it was not serious foul play, I want to consider the following 3 scenarios:
1 - Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed. 2 - Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned. 3 - Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off.
I think the challenge was more than reckless and while not be excessive I believe "endangered the safety of the opponent".
Sadly I think VAR has lead to referees now making more lenient decisions knowing that VAR will correct the worst - but seems to be allowing those that may be open to debate being let go.
If Delap had done the same to the BHA keeper, guarantee that he would have been shown red, as he has started to get a bit of a rep for leaving his mark.
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Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 14:22 - Jan 17 with 527 views
50/50 for me, much like Leif at Fulham. If Delap had done it we'd have made comments about how he was committed, running at pace, turned his back rather than leading with an arm, unavoidable collision etc. etc.
For what it's worth I would say that's much more worthy of a red card due to recklessness then a lot of straight reds nowadays but as someone said further up - whatever the ref did on the field VAR wouldn't have had a case to intervene.
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Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 14:30 - Jan 17 with 492 views
Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 14:26 - Jan 17 by Linners
50/50 for me, much like Leif at Fulham. If Delap had done it we'd have made comments about how he was committed, running at pace, turned his back rather than leading with an arm, unavoidable collision etc. etc.
For what it's worth I would say that's much more worthy of a red card due to recklessness then a lot of straight reds nowadays but as someone said further up - whatever the ref did on the field VAR wouldn't have had a case to intervene.
He did not slow down after the ball had gone. Took no evasive action whatsoever and literally jumped into Walton.
Id agree entirely but for all those things!
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Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 14:31 - Jan 17 with 485 views
Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 14:26 - Jan 17 by Linners
50/50 for me, much like Leif at Fulham. If Delap had done it we'd have made comments about how he was committed, running at pace, turned his back rather than leading with an arm, unavoidable collision etc. etc.
For what it's worth I would say that's much more worthy of a red card due to recklessness then a lot of straight reds nowadays but as someone said further up - whatever the ref did on the field VAR wouldn't have had a case to intervene.
I love the physicality of Delap, I doubt he would have done this to a opposition keeper, but I would certainly be disappointed if he did.
For me, its a red card wherever this happens on the pitch and for or against us.
Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 12:36 - Jan 17 by bsw72
How far off the Schumacher / Battiston challenge (reversed as in keeper nailed forward in that case).
Watch back the footage from '82 and the footage from last night, admittedly not as bad, but still not great.
The main difference is that Walton is not moving toward Joao Pedro, so the speed of collision is lessened. Apart from that, the leap into the player is not *that* disimilar.
Hey ho, not a lot can be done now.
Yep yep, the Harald Schumacher incident is exactly where my thoughts went last night. If Delap had done that I'd have been incredibly pissed off with him, not applauding it.
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Red card? Frustration with VAR response on 15:37 - Jan 17 with 358 views
I have to say it missed the actual incident as sitting on the old churchmans terrace i naturally followed the ball but having seen it back i can see why everyone is saying Red.... it was a continued movement to take out the player, no attempt t slow or avoid.... the whole reason didn't see it was because the ball was well clear of the incident so he obviously wasn't getting anywhere near the ball.
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