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We are going to go down with a whimper 15:52 - Jan 25 with 1396 viewsSimonds92

If we don't revert to playing bravely, playing further up the pitch and pressing properly.

We are attempting to be compact with absolutely no out ball, effective press or threat the other side.

Playing defence vs attack for 90 minutes is only going to end one way. We're not Everton, these players are not able to do this.

Yes, it's difficult against City and Liverpool but these performances have regressed significantly from the 2 first games of the season.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 15:55 - Jan 25 with 1314 viewsStokieBlue

This formation doesn't work. I know a lot wanted it but we still concede goals and don't attack. Brighton, City and now Liverpool.

SB
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:00 - Jan 25 with 1217 viewsEireannach_gorm

We are going to go down with a whimper on 15:55 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

This formation doesn't work. I know a lot wanted it but we still concede goals and don't attack. Brighton, City and now Liverpool.

SB


We don't have an out ball so the ball keeps coming back immediately. You are bound to concede eventually if you are constantly under pressure. Also any weakness in your defence is highlighted.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:00 - Jan 25 with 1210 viewsBlue_Heath

Said from start of season second half of season promoted teams get less points, so far zero and a worse goal difference. This season is all getting very Lambertesque Championship relegation style, no fight, no passion, just strolling to defeats.

Next week is the one that matters though, hopefully we can win that and kick on a bit but honestly think we will struggle.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:01 - Jan 25 with 1174 viewsITFCBlues

We are going to go down with a whimper on 15:55 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

This formation doesn't work. I know a lot wanted it but we still concede goals and don't attack. Brighton, City and now Liverpool.

SB


We're not even playing a back 5, so what are you suggesting?

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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:03 - Jan 25 with 1127 viewsLankHenners

Not as easy as just deciding to press them and get on the ball more though is it? In this game already when we've put pressure on them they've knocked it round us like we're not there and have us turned.

Not saying we couldn't have done better but more or less everyone was very pleased with how this set-up worked against Arsenal, then Chelsea and Fulham. Problem is going behind against a good team, especially one as good as Liverpool, is always going to be difficult to come back from.

Think our confidence takes a bit of a knock when we go behind which makes things worse. Small sample but before they scored we were knocking it about ok and looked positive but since then we've looked a bit lacklustre.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 with 1054 viewsVic

Remember who we’re playing! If we played bravely we’d still get slaughtered.

The problem as I see it is that we’ve lost a bit of confidence and panicing a bit more - plus City and L’pool are just about the best in the business. They are going to show up any little flaws we have!

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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 with 1054 viewscressi

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:01 - Jan 25 by ITFCBlues

We're not even playing a back 5, so what are you suggesting?


Playing a back 10 I thought watching this.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 with 1048 viewspointofblue

We are going to go down with a whimper on 15:55 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

This formation doesn't work. I know a lot wanted it but we still concede goals and don't attack. Brighton, City and now Liverpool.

SB


Today's been more of a four than a five. And the five worked well defensively at Arsenal, then against Chelsea and Fulham. We even looked decent for the first hour against Brighton and first 30 versus Manchester City.

Whereas we looked clueless when we went with a four v Brighton, and today...

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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 with 1029 viewsStokieBlue

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:01 - Jan 25 by ITFCBlues

We're not even playing a back 5, so what are you suggesting?


It's effectively a back 5 out of position or 4 with a very defensive right mid. We have no number 10.

There is no way to get out of the press and retain the ball.

Obviously Liverpool and City are very good but I think it needs tweaking.

SB
[Post edited 25 Jan 16:07]
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:10 - Jan 25 with 947 viewsITFCBlues

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

It's effectively a back 5 out of position or 4 with a very defensive right mid. We have no number 10.

There is no way to get out of the press and retain the ball.

Obviously Liverpool and City are very good but I think it needs tweaking.

SB
[Post edited 25 Jan 16:07]


Burns was pressing up at half way in the first half. It's the same formation as the we've played the last 2 years, but unfortunately your RW does far more defending because we have far less of the ball.

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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:11 - Jan 25 with 917 viewsStokieBlue

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:10 - Jan 25 by ITFCBlues

Burns was pressing up at half way in the first half. It's the same formation as the we've played the last 2 years, but unfortunately your RW does far more defending because we have far less of the ball.


There is no 10 although hutch is more central at the start of this half.

Not that it matters, the main points remain. It's a big step to play teams like Liverpool.

SB
[Post edited 25 Jan 16:13]
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:18 - Jan 25 with 844 viewsSimonds92

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:05 - Jan 25 by Vic

Remember who we’re playing! If we played bravely we’d still get slaughtered.

The problem as I see it is that we’ve lost a bit of confidence and panicing a bit more - plus City and L’pool are just about the best in the business. They are going to show up any little flaws we have!


We've already played City and Liverpool this season and put in decent displays. We have been in every game and offered some threat until we played Newcastle. Since then, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and to an extent Brighton, we have been exceptionally poor.
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:19 - Jan 25 with 832 viewsITFCBlues

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:11 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

There is no 10 although hutch is more central at the start of this half.

Not that it matters, the main points remain. It's a big step to play teams like Liverpool.

SB
[Post edited 25 Jan 16:13]


Hutch was playing pretty much up alongside Delap.

But yeah, these games are almost a write off anyways. Next week is a must win.

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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:33 - Jan 25 with 702 viewsSimonds92

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:18 - Jan 25 by Simonds92

We've already played City and Liverpool this season and put in decent displays. We have been in every game and offered some threat until we played Newcastle. Since then, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and to an extent Brighton, we have been exceptionally poor.


To add to this, comments from the commentary team today:
"Ipswich have been so passive"
"Liverpool have had free run of the park"
"This is easier than a training game for Liverpool"
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We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:35 - Jan 25 with 648 viewspointofblue

We are going to go down with a whimper on 16:18 - Jan 25 by Simonds92

We've already played City and Liverpool this season and put in decent displays. We have been in every game and offered some threat until we played Newcastle. Since then, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and to an extent Brighton, we have been exceptionally poor.


We were fine against Brighton until it went 1-0 and then, for some reason, fell apart. Same can be said of City.

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