| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season 13:53 - Feb 27 with 1573 views | FromReuserWithLove |
then i'll take that.
McKenna can "take the positives" from this season and continue to grow as a manger we will have an even more exceptional talent in-charge. For all my moaning this season, i'd love nothing more than Kieran to continue his legacy here as he is absolutely still the best man for the job. |  | | |  |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 13:58 - Feb 27 with 1535 views | WeirdFishes |
I’ve been frustrated with him of late, last night the most perhaps ever, but in no way do I want anyone else in charge of us. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 13:59 - Feb 27 with 1520 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Amen.
In Mckenna We Trust [Post edited 27 Feb 13:59]
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:06 - Feb 27 with 1499 views | RegencyBlue |
I think he will still be here next season, he has plenty of credit in the bank after all. He won’t be sacked and can’t see a PL team coming in for him after this season.
Having said that, if we are in the Championship next season and not doing particularly well around Xmas time I think he might have a problem. Generally American business is particularly unforgiving regarding what it perceives as failure. |  | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:19 - Feb 27 with 1447 views | ibbleobble |
100% - it's OK to fail. Their is success in failure.
What i find funny on this forum at the moment is its the same chasm in the supporter group that's opening up that did under McCarthy. Some dared believe that it was better to not rock the boat and it was as good as we were going to get; others felt that it was right to objectively criticise and demand more.
Its happening again.
A lot of people are questioning KM, probably for the first time in all truth, whereas others are just happy not to and both sides pour scorn on each other - the more rabid of those coming from those who dare not challenge the status quo. |  | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:20 - Feb 27 with 1442 views | ParisBlue |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:06 - Feb 27 by RegencyBlue |
I think he will still be here next season, he has plenty of credit in the bank after all. He won’t be sacked and can’t see a PL team coming in for him after this season.
Having said that, if we are in the Championship next season and not doing particularly well around Xmas time I think he might have a problem. Generally American business is particularly unforgiving regarding what it perceives as failure. |
Getting relegated this season won't be seen as failure.
Not going straight back up next season will be.
Pretty sure there were some noises from the americans in the summer of 2022 that not getting promoted from L1 that season wouldn't be acceptable. Like you say, well run US businesses aren't afraid of being ruthless. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:25 - Feb 27 with 1401 views | homer_123 |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:19 - Feb 27 by ibbleobble |
100% - it's OK to fail. Their is success in failure.
What i find funny on this forum at the moment is its the same chasm in the supporter group that's opening up that did under McCarthy. Some dared believe that it was better to not rock the boat and it was as good as we were going to get; others felt that it was right to objectively criticise and demand more.
Its happening again.
A lot of people are questioning KM, probably for the first time in all truth, whereas others are just happy not to and both sides pour scorn on each other - the more rabid of those coming from those who dare not challenge the status quo. |
I disagree.
I read a lot of posts that question the approach of KM or squad choice, or tactics etc. but this is delivered in an objective way. I've also seen posts that support the approach of KM or squad choice, or tactics etc. but this is delivered in an objective way.
No issues with either of those.
There is one other group on this forum though. And it's those that I struggle to understand - as I posted earlier today and last night, there is a section that are just negative and moreover, revel in it. Every post is negative, no objectivity, no balance, no thought.
There are almost no posts from people who 'blindly' support KM. So the chasm you refer to isn't between those that are uber negative and uber positive but between posters who are objective, balanced and those that just vent negativity. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:32 - Feb 27 with 1352 views | ibbleobble |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:25 - Feb 27 by homer_123 |
I disagree.
I read a lot of posts that question the approach of KM or squad choice, or tactics etc. but this is delivered in an objective way. I've also seen posts that support the approach of KM or squad choice, or tactics etc. but this is delivered in an objective way.
No issues with either of those.
There is one other group on this forum though. And it's those that I struggle to understand - as I posted earlier today and last night, there is a section that are just negative and moreover, revel in it. Every post is negative, no objectivity, no balance, no thought.
There are almost no posts from people who 'blindly' support KM. So the chasm you refer to isn't between those that are uber negative and uber positive but between posters who are objective, balanced and those that just vent negativity. |
Yeah i partly agree although disagree with this line, "There are almost no posts from people who 'blindly' support KM".
There are definitely a small contingent in this bucket. Someone last night questioned the integrity of fans opinion because they weren't at the game. Someone else questioned the temerity of some to question KM.
The chasm would have some way to go before it ever got to McCarthy levels but as you point out, groups are naturally starting to form. | | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:38 - Feb 27 with 1310 views | homer_123 |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:32 - Feb 27 by ibbleobble |
Yeah i partly agree although disagree with this line, "There are almost no posts from people who 'blindly' support KM".
There are definitely a small contingent in this bucket. Someone last night questioned the integrity of fans opinion because they weren't at the game. Someone else questioned the temerity of some to question KM.
The chasm would have some way to go before it ever got to McCarthy levels but as you point out, groups are naturally starting to form. |
I haven't seen those posts, so will take your word on that.
"...but as you point out, groups are naturally starting to form."
That's actually not what I've said, it was your OP that talks to chasms. | |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:45 - Feb 27 with 1283 views | homer_123 |
Saw this last night on the forum....
I'm calling it now ..id prefer a new manager in the championship!! by Denny32 26 Feb 21:56Yes mckenna brought us up two leagues, but he has shown no inkling of what type of player needed to stay in Premiership ,let alone compete, ..he has it uo in his head, but not able to get it done on the field..he could possibly go down as the most over hyped manager ever..sorry kieran..we won't forget you ,but we need someone with fresh ideas and bring in more robust players and continental as well ...
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:50 - Feb 27 with 1238 views | jasondozzell |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:19 - Feb 27 by ibbleobble |
100% - it's OK to fail. Their is success in failure.
What i find funny on this forum at the moment is its the same chasm in the supporter group that's opening up that did under McCarthy. Some dared believe that it was better to not rock the boat and it was as good as we were going to get; others felt that it was right to objectively criticise and demand more.
Its happening again.
A lot of people are questioning KM, probably for the first time in all truth, whereas others are just happy not to and both sides pour scorn on each other - the more rabid of those coming from those who dare not challenge the status quo. |
You cannot seriously compare this situation with the Mick years. |  | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:56 - Feb 27 with 1198 views | baxterbasics |
I think there is an adjustment some fans are having to make in their heads now we aren't winning regular games anymore: McKenna isn't magic, or an infallible genius who will win out season after season, he's just a hard working and capable young manager still learning his craft. He's progressed the team in leaps twice, and I would argue the current squad is also a progression, albeit a smaller one. But he's human and fallible and needs to learn a few things still.
Is he still the best person for the job, the one we want in charge regardless of where we end up this year? Of course. Looney-tunes to say otherwise. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 15:01 - Feb 27 with 1177 views | BlueBadger |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:19 - Feb 27 by ibbleobble |
100% - it's OK to fail. Their is success in failure.
What i find funny on this forum at the moment is its the same chasm in the supporter group that's opening up that did under McCarthy. Some dared believe that it was better to not rock the boat and it was as good as we were going to get; others felt that it was right to objectively criticise and demand more.
Its happening again.
A lot of people are questioning KM, probably for the first time in all truth, whereas others are just happy not to and both sides pour scorn on each other - the more rabid of those coming from those who dare not challenge the status quo. |
Cookie's not coming back love, he's not coming back. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 15:27 - Feb 27 with 1102 views | ibbleobble |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:50 - Feb 27 by jasondozzell |
You cannot seriously compare this situation with the Mick years. |
I said, "chasm that's opening up", not that it is directly the same as it was then.
Groups are starting to shift in those directions imo. It happens when things aren't going so well, people naturally vent and this format is pretty terrible given tone can easily be misinterpreted and any wording polarised or mistaken for something implied.
You'll get the same groups jump on the same posters. I seem to have a little gaggle of four or five goading on a regular basis. Banter lads. | | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 20:35 - Feb 27 with 910 views | ernie |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 14:19 - Feb 27 by ibbleobble |
100% - it's OK to fail. Their is success in failure.
What i find funny on this forum at the moment is its the same chasm in the supporter group that's opening up that did under McCarthy. Some dared believe that it was better to not rock the boat and it was as good as we were going to get; others felt that it was right to objectively criticise and demand more.
Its happening again.
A lot of people are questioning KM, probably for the first time in all truth, whereas others are just happy not to and both sides pour scorn on each other - the more rabid of those coming from those who dare not challenge the status quo. |
Nothing like what went on with regards to being divided under MM. a few throwaway comments and disappointed reactions to one half of football are not the signs of a ‘chasm’ opening up. | | | |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 20:43 - Feb 27 with 889 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
I think he’s going to have suitors in the summer and he might think it’s time for another project. |  |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 21:31 - Feb 27 with 813 views | Nutkins_Return |
We can just continue the progress season on season. And I still believe that even with relegation we are moving forward as a club. | |
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| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 22:17 - Feb 27 with 721 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| If this abject season means we still have McKenna next season on 21:31 - Feb 27 by Nutkins_Return |
We can just continue the progress season on season. And I still believe that even with relegation we are moving forward as a club. |
We have progressed by at least one position at the moment (we finished behind Leicester but ahead of Southampton or we fininshed 22nd in the pyramid and now lie 18th). I am certain that this team is doing better than we did last season despite it not being quite enough for where we are.
The challenge is to continue to improve next season if we are relegated and on basic positions that will be impossible (or topping the league could be seen as matching it - unless we finish behind one of the other relegated sides which is still possible ... as is staying up). |  |
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