| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:19 - Mar 22 with 541 views | DJR |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:13 - Mar 22 by lowhouseblue |
but they were with their families and had unlimited contact online. seriously, which would choose? or, if you had a nine year old kid, which would you choose for them? |
I would prefer interaction in person with other children as happened with evacuees because I think it is better for child development. |  | |  |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:21 - Mar 22 with 524 views | DJR |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:17 - Mar 22 by Ryorry |
Being with their families during lockdowns would have been a complete nightmare for some. |
And many children would not even have had a garden to escape to. | | | |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:23 - Mar 22 with 509 views | lowhouseblue |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:19 - Mar 22 by DJR |
I would prefer interaction in person with other children as happened with evacuees because I think it is better for child development. |
and all the accounts from evacuees that those interactions were largely negative with the locals bullying and ostracising the new arrivals. and all the accounts of the culture shock of working class inner city kids arriving in rural and middle class areas where they felt utterly alien and their speech, clothing, hygiene, eating habits, education etc were despised? i'm really not sure the social history of evacuation supports your rather idealistic version. [Post edited 22 Mar 18:24]
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| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:25 - Mar 22 with 496 views | PhilTWTD |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:11 - Mar 22 by DJR |
We can obviously agree to disagree but a very important aspect of child development is interaction with other children. It was that that I was talking about by isolation, and evacuees would not have missed out on that because they would have gone to school and may well have gone to the same place as siblings and school friends.
Anyway, it's not just me that thinks that some children have suffered in their social development because of Covid (as my post indicated), and I thought this might be pertinent to an increased number of inactive 16-24 year olds.
As regards a lack of social development, I remember even accountancy firms saying that new recruits after the pandemic were not as socially developed as in the past. And behaviour and absence in school is much worse than before the pandemic. In that sense, many university students (especially first year) had it bad because they were both socially isolated at university and away from their parents. Indeed, my daughter had a whole year of online lessons even though she went to university in the September after the pandemic had started.. [Post edited 22 Mar 18:13]
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That was how I took your post and it resonated with a friend's experience in schools. Thread does rather seem to have gone down a blind alley. |  | | |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:31 - Mar 22 with 454 views | lowhouseblue |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:25 - Mar 22 by PhilTWTD |
That was how I took your post and it resonated with a friend's experience in schools. Thread does rather seem to have gone down a blind alley. |
lockdown had awful effects for kids - to the extent that if it were ever to recur i hope the approach would be very different and education and the experience of kids would be protected far more. it's just that the comparison with other generations was unnecessary and frankly a bit historically crass. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:50 - Mar 22 with 404 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:11 - Mar 22 by DJR |
We can obviously agree to disagree but a very important aspect of child development is interaction with other children. It was that that I was talking about by isolation, and evacuees would not have missed out on that because they would have gone to school and may well have gone to the same place as siblings and school friends.
Anyway, it's not just me that thinks that some children have suffered in their social development because of Covid (as my post indicated), and I thought this might be pertinent to an increased number of inactive 16-24 year olds.
As regards a lack of social development, I remember even accountancy firms saying that new recruits after the pandemic were not as socially developed as in the past. And behaviour and absence in school is much worse than before the pandemic. In that sense, many university students (especially first year) had it bad because they were both socially isolated at university and away from their parents. Indeed, my daughter had a whole year of online lessons even though she went to university in the September after the pandemic had started.. [Post edited 22 Mar 18:13]
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Agreed. There was definitely an impact on kids if you believe the studies that have taken place. But at the same time, how would you have justified opening up schools with the teachers being more vulnerable and the kids acting as potential carriers? Given that we didn’t know at the time, it was probably (possibly?) right to take a more cautious approach. It was a very difficult decision, so we should learn from it but not judge imo.
One argument I’ve heard that seems sensible is that we needed to lockdown early to slow the rate of infections to not overload the NHS, but we could have relaxed restrictions earlier when it was obvious the NHS wasn’t going to be overrun. I’ve not heard the NHS’s view on that line of argument though.
From a personal perspective with my kids, I don’t think there’s been any negative long term impac from lockdown. One was quieter initially, but some are naturally more quiet and he’s changed a lot now anyway. The other is more outgoing than ever. Obviously everyone could have different experiences, so my experiences may not be widely relevant. My kids also benefit from excellent parenting, so it’s fortunate they’ve got a good mum even if their dad is a feckwit  . [Post edited 22 Mar 18:51]
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| What I can't figure out is.... on 19:16 - Mar 22 with 359 views | DJR |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:31 - Mar 22 by lowhouseblue |
lockdown had awful effects for kids - to the extent that if it were ever to recur i hope the approach would be very different and education and the experience of kids would be protected far more. it's just that the comparison with other generations was unnecessary and frankly a bit historically crass. |
Thanks for the insult. | | | |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 19:16 - Mar 22 with 354 views | DJR |
| What I can't figure out is.... on 18:25 - Mar 22 by PhilTWTD |
That was how I took your post and it resonated with a friend's experience in schools. Thread does rather seem to have gone down a blind alley. |
Par for the course? | | | |
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