| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap 10:51 - Mar 21 with 4898 views | WeWereZombies |
Phil's line about Hirst being only the fifth Town player to win a cap for Scotland surprised me, but then I tried to think of others and could only come up with three...who didn't:
Bill Baxter - not even for boxing...
Jimmy Robertson - One cap but either when playing for St Mirren or Spurs
Alex Mathie - Unused squad member in 1987 FIFA Youth Championship
When you think about the Scottish managers we have had here (Scott Duncan, err John Duncan, George Burley, another one who's name I can't remember but I think he played for some German club as a participant in a prestigious tournament) are we a bit unrepresented north of the border ? [Post edited 21 Mar 2025 10:54]
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 11:03 - Mar 21 with 3240 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
Alex Mathie can probably feel a bit hard done by not making the Euro96 cut for Scotland. Scored for Ipswich regularly, starting in the Premier League and then the Championship, I think over 20 goals before that competition. |  |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 11:05 - Mar 21 with 3229 views | DJR |
Before my time watching Ipswich, but Doug Moran played 42 league games in the season we won the league. He didn't win any caps for Scotland.
There was also Danny Hegan whom I did see play. He was born in Scotland but represented Northern Ireland, maybe because his chances with the Scottish team were limited.
Another I saw play was Frank Brogan who didn't win any caps. [Post edited 21 Mar 2025 11:07]
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 12:05 - Mar 21 with 3092 views | Sharkey |
Ian Redford was a very good player in a very good Dundee United team. I don't know if he was ever 'in the conversation' for Scotand when he was there, or at Town.
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:28 - Mar 22 with 2754 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I presume the 4 before Hirst are Wark, Burley, Brazil and Berra. (EDITED to remove McLuckie who I had added before realising why he wasn't included.)
Other Scottish Town players include:
Jimmy McLuckie made 1 appearance for Scotland in 1933 before he was at Town https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/p
Doug Moran (regular in the title season scoring 14 league goals)
Billy Baxter (regular in the title winning side and over 400 apps for us overall)
Dave Bell (full back over 100 apps between 38-50)
Tom Brown (GK over 100 apps just after WW2)
Frank Brogan (223 apps; his brother made 4 International apps for Scotland)
Jimmy Leadbetter (41 apps and 8 goals from midfield in the title season. Over 300 apps for us overall)
Mathie
Neil Myles (wing half 245 apps in the 50s)
George MacLuckie (spelt slightly differently to Jimmy's surname. I love that surname, though)
Ken Malcolm (made 3 apps in the title season and over 200 for us overall)
Mark Burchill (the Scottish Michael Owen wasn't he? About as much as the Macedonian Steven Gerrard!)
I learnt something looking some of them up. I can only assume that when we won the title, Scotland only chose players that were in Scotland or our players were overlooked as we overachieved. [Post edited 22 Mar 2025 14:39]
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:31 - Mar 22 with 2747 views | Trequartista |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:34 - Mar 22 with 2717 views | Perublue |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:40 - Mar 22 with 2701 views | WeWereZombies |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:34 - Mar 22 by Perublue |
Chris Wood |
You'll be suggesting Cameron Burgess next... | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:41 - Mar 22 with 2694 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:31 - Mar 22 by Trequartista |
Jason Scotland |
Whose international appearances were all before he joined Town (if Wiki is correct - I thought he played while with us). | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:42 - Mar 22 with 2690 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:41 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Whose international appearances were all before he joined Town (if Wiki is correct - I thought he played while with us). |
Indeed, that must lead to a thread on Town players who represented a different country to their names. Holland, Scotland, Brazil ... | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:49 - Mar 22 with 2676 views | Rocky |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:42 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Indeed, that must lead to a thread on Town players who represented a different country to their names. Holland, Scotland, Brazil ... |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:51 - Mar 22 with 2659 views | WeWereZombies |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:49 - Mar 22 by Rocky |
Finidi Georgia |
Gus Uhlenzbekistan... | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:53 - Mar 22 with 2647 views | Radlett_blue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:28 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I presume the 4 before Hirst are Wark, Burley, Brazil and Berra. (EDITED to remove McLuckie who I had added before realising why he wasn't included.)
Other Scottish Town players include:
Jimmy McLuckie made 1 appearance for Scotland in 1933 before he was at Town https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/p
Doug Moran (regular in the title season scoring 14 league goals)
Billy Baxter (regular in the title winning side and over 400 apps for us overall)
Dave Bell (full back over 100 apps between 38-50)
Tom Brown (GK over 100 apps just after WW2)
Frank Brogan (223 apps; his brother made 4 International apps for Scotland)
Jimmy Leadbetter (41 apps and 8 goals from midfield in the title season. Over 300 apps for us overall)
Mathie
Neil Myles (wing half 245 apps in the 50s)
George MacLuckie (spelt slightly differently to Jimmy's surname. I love that surname, though)
Ken Malcolm (made 3 apps in the title season and over 200 for us overall)
Mark Burchill (the Scottish Michael Owen wasn't he? About as much as the Macedonian Steven Gerrard!)
I learnt something looking some of them up. I can only assume that when we won the title, Scotland only chose players that were in Scotland or our players were overlooked as we overachieved. [Post edited 22 Mar 2025 14:39]
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Yes, certainly in the 1960s & probably before there was a perceived bias in the SFA selection committee against "Anglo Scots" & Ipswich players would have suffered from that. The SFA was particularly amateurish in the 1950s, sending only 13 players to the 1954 World Cup Finals in Switzerland. |  |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:55 - Mar 22 with 2638 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:51 - Mar 22 by WeWereZombies |
Gus Uhlenzbekistan... |
Doesn't work because he never played for another country. | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:57 - Mar 22 with 2631 views | Trequartista |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:49 - Mar 22 by Rocky |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:58 - Mar 22 with 2619 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:53 - Mar 22 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, certainly in the 1960s & probably before there was a perceived bias in the SFA selection committee against "Anglo Scots" & Ipswich players would have suffered from that. The SFA was particularly amateurish in the 1950s, sending only 13 players to the 1954 World Cup Finals in Switzerland. |
They did keep 9 in reserve at home in case they were needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
More interestingly in the context of this, "Scotland were the only team to have players from foreign clubs (namely 7 players from English clubs)." | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:58 - Mar 22 with 2619 views | Keno |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 15:00 - Mar 22 with 2608 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:58 - Mar 22 by Keno |
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Andy Marshall (Islands) works except he never made a full England appearance. [Post edited 22 Mar 2025 15:01]
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 15:01 - Mar 22 with 2614 views | WeWereZombies |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:55 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Doesn't work because he never played for another country. |
Would Cambuurdia count ? | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 15:04 - Mar 22 with 2585 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 14:57 - Mar 22 by Trequartista |
France Isjeffers |
Did actually make an England appearance and more than that score too! [Post edited 22 Mar 2025 15:05]
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 15:09 - Mar 22 with 2578 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Of course, Jordan Rhodesia played for Scotland after he left Town too! | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 17:43 - Mar 22 with 2412 views | ericclacton |
Angus Macflatulent, pee pole were scared to go near him, ats craminal he nevar got ah look in.
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 17:58 - Mar 22 with 2381 views | Radlett_blue |
Yes, Robertson won 1 cap in 1964 when a Spur, playing in a Home International fixture against Wales. Scotland lost 3-2 & he was not picked again. | |
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| Great Scots who have played for Town but never won an international cap on 18:30 - Mar 22 with 2339 views | Swansea_Blue |
The Scotchish manger you can’t remember is obviously John McGreal. Def info. |  |
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