The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere 18:21 - Mar 23 with 8189 views | vapour_trail | Doesn’t stand up to adversity wry well does it. Reckon you could hear a paper aeroplane land on that turf right now. |  |
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Just for clarity…. on 09:04 - Mar 24 with 1302 views | bluebud |
Just for clarity…. on 08:55 - Mar 24 by Bloots | ….you do know that it’s rhyming slang don’t you? It’s not an insult that is actually claiming that jocks are particularly sweaty. I’m pretty certain they are no sweatier than any other members of the United Kingdom. In fact, my money would be on the Welsh being the sweatiest. |
OMG...could be said for literally any nationalistic slur. I mean, for example mate, I know that Frrench people aren't actually frogs. If you're Scottish and someone calls you sweaty then everyone else who hears it needs to understand that its a joke. If not you are just being abused. Sweaty is just like being called dirty or smelly...inference is important my rather uninformed friend. |  | |  |
Just for clarity…. on 09:05 - Mar 24 with 1292 views | Lord_Lucan |
Just for clarity…. on 09:04 - Mar 24 by bluebud | OMG...could be said for literally any nationalistic slur. I mean, for example mate, I know that Frrench people aren't actually frogs. If you're Scottish and someone calls you sweaty then everyone else who hears it needs to understand that its a joke. If not you are just being abused. Sweaty is just like being called dirty or smelly...inference is important my rather uninformed friend. |
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Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:06 - Mar 24 with 1278 views | Bloots |
Just for clarity…. on 09:04 - Mar 24 by bluebud | OMG...could be said for literally any nationalistic slur. I mean, for example mate, I know that Frrench people aren't actually frogs. If you're Scottish and someone calls you sweaty then everyone else who hears it needs to understand that its a joke. If not you are just being abused. Sweaty is just like being called dirty or smelly...inference is important my rather uninformed friend. |
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Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:39 - Mar 24 with 1180 views | gordon |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:06 - Mar 24 by Bloots | |
Or maybe just accept that racist abuse isn't that funny or clever? |  | |  |
It’s not racist, nor abuse. (n/t) on 09:43 - Mar 24 with 1164 views | Bloots |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:39 - Mar 24 by gordon | Or maybe just accept that racist abuse isn't that funny or clever? |
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Just for clarity…. on 09:43 - Mar 24 with 1165 views | farkenhell |
Just for clarity…. on 09:04 - Mar 24 by bluebud | OMG...could be said for literally any nationalistic slur. I mean, for example mate, I know that Frrench people aren't actually frogs. If you're Scottish and someone calls you sweaty then everyone else who hears it needs to understand that its a joke. If not you are just being abused. Sweaty is just like being called dirty or smelly...inference is important my rather uninformed friend. |
The irony of you calling Bloots uninformed when you've refused to accept his explanation! Google "cockney rhyming slang" and you might understand that using the word "sweaty" in this context is as much inferring that Scottish people are dirty or smelly as "septic" (septic tank = yank) is suggesting that Americans are diseased or contaminated. It's a noun, not an adjective. Or if I should describe Mrs F as my "trouble" (trouble & strife = wife), I am not saying that my beloved is a difficult sort of person. Hang on... |  | |  |
Just for clarity…. on 09:48 - Mar 24 with 1156 views | farkenhell |
Just for clarity…. on 09:02 - Mar 24 by gordon | 'The jocks' is a racist slur. |
Is that right? I didn't know that. Always assumed that it was the Scottish version of "John" (like the Irish "Sean"). |  | |  |
Just for clarity…. on 09:49 - Mar 24 with 1153 views | bluebud |
Just for clarity…. on 09:43 - Mar 24 by farkenhell | The irony of you calling Bloots uninformed when you've refused to accept his explanation! Google "cockney rhyming slang" and you might understand that using the word "sweaty" in this context is as much inferring that Scottish people are dirty or smelly as "septic" (septic tank = yank) is suggesting that Americans are diseased or contaminated. It's a noun, not an adjective. Or if I should describe Mrs F as my "trouble" (trouble & strife = wife), I am not saying that my beloved is a difficult sort of person. Hang on... |
His explanation is wrong. it's rhyming slang for a slur....not apples and pears mate What's even worse is the rhyming slang for the slur is totally demeaning and derogatory. So no irony there, just you not getting it as well |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:50 - Mar 24 with 1140 views | Lord_Lucan |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:39 - Mar 24 by gordon | Or maybe just accept that racist abuse isn't that funny or clever? |
Thinking such things are racist and abusive is exactly why we have ended up with the likes of Donald Trump. The huge silent majority were / are absolutely fed up to the back teeth of being criticised by people who look for reasons to be offended and take great pleasure in grandstanding their opinion. |  |
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Just for clarity…. on 09:51 - Mar 24 with 1136 views | bluebud |
Just for clarity…. on 09:48 - Mar 24 by farkenhell | Is that right? I didn't know that. Always assumed that it was the Scottish version of "John" (like the Irish "Sean"). |
Ok, so you understand even less than I thought from your previous helpful input. Well done. |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 09:52 - Mar 24 with 1127 views | J2BLUE |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 08:31 - Mar 24 by bluebud | Nah, I'm sick of Scots being abused......having accents mimiced, national dress abused, our food and drink and people think it's cool to call us "sweaty"...any other country or nationality treated like this and the cops would turn up and pretend lefties would be up in arms |
In our defence...kilts, bagpipes, haggis...there's a lot of material to work with. |  |
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Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:55 - Mar 24 with 1106 views | bluebud |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:50 - Mar 24 by Lord_Lucan | Thinking such things are racist and abusive is exactly why we have ended up with the likes of Donald Trump. The huge silent majority were / are absolutely fed up to the back teeth of being criticised by people who look for reasons to be offended and take great pleasure in grandstanding their opinion. |
No grandstanding. There are dozens of occasions when I've been called 'sweaty' in front of dozens of people while at work by people like you I guess. It feels totally humiliating and embarassing especially when others join in. I'm sorry if you're fed up to the back teeth of not being allowed to abuse people without comeback but you should maybe check yourself on that. |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 09:58 - Mar 24 with 1079 views | bluebud |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 09:52 - Mar 24 by J2BLUE | In our defence...kilts, bagpipes, haggis...there's a lot of material to work with. |
Go for it, let's see how creative and witty you are. |  | |  |
“A sweaty”, not “sweaty”…. on 10:00 - Mar 24 with 1054 views | Bloots |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:55 - Mar 24 by bluebud | No grandstanding. There are dozens of occasions when I've been called 'sweaty' in front of dozens of people while at work by people like you I guess. It feels totally humiliating and embarassing especially when others join in. I'm sorry if you're fed up to the back teeth of not being allowed to abuse people without comeback but you should maybe check yourself on that. |
….if you are being called “sweaty” it’s probably not because you are Scottish. |  |
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Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 10:01 - Mar 24 with 1045 views | gordon |
Go back to bed mate. (n/t) on 09:50 - Mar 24 by Lord_Lucan | Thinking such things are racist and abusive is exactly why we have ended up with the likes of Donald Trump. The huge silent majority were / are absolutely fed up to the back teeth of being criticised by people who look for reasons to be offended and take great pleasure in grandstanding their opinion. |
Sorry mate, you're just defending racism. |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:02 - Mar 24 with 1040 views | J2BLUE |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 09:58 - Mar 24 by bluebud | Go for it, let's see how creative and witty you are. |
I'm probably neither. FWIW I do agree sweaty is a very unpleasant term and it's not one I would use myself. |  |
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Just for clarity…. on 10:04 - Mar 24 with 1020 views | farkenhell |
Just for clarity…. on 09:49 - Mar 24 by bluebud | His explanation is wrong. it's rhyming slang for a slur....not apples and pears mate What's even worse is the rhyming slang for the slur is totally demeaning and derogatory. So no irony there, just you not getting it as well |
If it is a slur, I'm sure it wasn't intended to be. As I tried to explain in my previous post, I don't think it was demeaning or derogatory either. |  | |  |
Just for clarity…. on 10:07 - Mar 24 with 969 views | farkenhell |
Just for clarity…. on 09:51 - Mar 24 by bluebud | Ok, so you understand even less than I thought from your previous helpful input. Well done. |
Thank you for the condescending tone. |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:09 - Mar 24 with 957 views | giant_stow |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 08:36 - Mar 24 by gordon | Think it's pretty embarrassing and cringeworthy to have casual racism on the site in this day and age - the thread title ought to be changed. |
whats wrong with the thread title? Or has it already been edited? |  |
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The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:10 - Mar 24 with 950 views | bluebud |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:02 - Mar 24 by J2BLUE | I'm probably neither. FWIW I do agree sweaty is a very unpleasant term and it's not one I would use myself. |
Thank you. It's just very unpleasant. I'm not grandstanding or making a culture war gotcha moment. I've been directly affected at work countless times and it's just bullying and very unkind. To see it written on here is just backward as well as the posters thinking it's cool or I'm eroding their rights........not one of them would say it to my face, I'm sure of that. |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:11 - Mar 24 with 935 views | gordon |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:09 - Mar 24 by giant_stow | whats wrong with the thread title? Or has it already been edited? |
The original title was "The sweaties and their famous Hampden atmosphere". |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:12 - Mar 24 with 925 views | bluebud |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:09 - Mar 24 by giant_stow | whats wrong with the thread title? Or has it already been edited? |
Sweaties instead of Scots |  | |  |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:13 - Mar 24 with 911 views | giant_stow |
The Scots and their famous Hampden atmosphere on 10:11 - Mar 24 by gordon | The original title was "The sweaties and their famous Hampden atmosphere". |
ah, i see. |  |
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Just for clarity…. on 10:13 - Mar 24 with 907 views | gordon |
Just for clarity…. on 10:04 - Mar 24 by farkenhell | If it is a slur, I'm sure it wasn't intended to be. As I tried to explain in my previous post, I don't think it was demeaning or derogatory either. |
The whole point of slurs like 'jocks', 'sweaties' etc. is that they are derogatory, demeaning and insulting. If the posters using these terms didn't want to be demeaning, derogatory and insulting, they could just say 'Scots'. |  | |  |
Just for clarity…. on 10:29 - Mar 24 with 825 views | farkenhell |
Just for clarity…. on 10:13 - Mar 24 by gordon | The whole point of slurs like 'jocks', 'sweaties' etc. is that they are derogatory, demeaning and insulting. If the posters using these terms didn't want to be demeaning, derogatory and insulting, they could just say 'Scots'. |
I don't think that the posters who used those terms intended them to be demeaning, derogatory or insulting. I read them as throwaway slang. However, both you and bluebud have explained why see them as unacceptable and I am grateful for the explanations. |  | |  |
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