| delap: why would city not be interested? 17:06 - Apr 9 with 4245 views | positivity |
buy him for a discount, then sell him for maybe 40m, receive >£10m
or
let him be sold for 30m to a rival, receive 2m (20% of 10m profit)
have i missed something obvious? |  |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 21:45 - Apr 14 with 1006 views | darkhorse28 |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 21:26 - Apr 14 by BarcaBlue |
Elephants or horses? It's a tough choice. |
As hominem attacks, without making a single point.
I’m guessing you can read a league table. | | | |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 07:46 - Apr 15 with 882 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 21:16 - Apr 14 by darkhorse28 |
It’s 20 plus years, 10 year assessing, 10’yearw waiting to pounce .., none of our player are Fleck, or Fox levels of genius.., I couldn’t bring myself to even type Sutton if that helps.
In all seriousness I just don’t subscribe to ‘pluck’my’ and ‘couldn’t possibly stay up’
I’m watching Huijsen now, what a quality player, he cost £12 million, he’s 20, he’s less expensive and twice as good as Jacob…, and Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Fulham, Forest, they have scores and scores of examples.
Better players, many of which cost less than what we spent…, we could have stayed up, but we needed MUCH better talent ID, and coaching and management too if we’re honest.
Mitoma cost £3 million, Mbeuno £7 million, Brighton turn £10 million players into £100 million players for fun.., we turned £150 million gross spend in to £80 million balance sheet valuations.
It’s not how you build a club in the long or short term. We bought below averagely and were competing against world class recruitment, and world class management, and that’s why we are short, we just aren’t at those levels and if we don’t change some of those dynamics, we won’t be either.
Big Mal McKay .., he was a good player, met him at a wedding once, he believed I’m an Ipswich fan .., I stood on his toes during a dance, I would have kicked his shins, but he’s bigger than me. |
You say a lot of words but are utterly clueless if you think a newly promoted team (still with League 1 players in it) can just pick up whatever players they want, just because they were originally cheaper than some of the fees we've paid. Real life is a bit more nuanced than a computer game.
There's no way you've been sitting on your hands for 20 years, you're either a budgie who's just remembered they created a login 20 years ago, or one of the negative-ninnies (probably a banned one) who's just remembered an old login. |  |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 07:46 - Apr 15 with 878 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 21:26 - Apr 14 by BarcaBlue |
Elephants or horses? It's a tough choice. |
Ah yeah, it all makes sense now. | |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 07:51 - Apr 15 with 864 views | BarcaBlue |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 07:46 - Apr 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You say a lot of words but are utterly clueless if you think a newly promoted team (still with League 1 players in it) can just pick up whatever players they want, just because they were originally cheaper than some of the fees we've paid. Real life is a bit more nuanced than a computer game.
There's no way you've been sitting on your hands for 20 years, you're either a budgie who's just remembered they created a login 20 years ago, or one of the negative-ninnies (probably a banned one) who's just remembered an old login. |
Elephants are known for their long memories. They're not so hot on realism. |  | | |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 08:32 - Apr 15 with 805 views | Herbivore |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 07:51 - Apr 15 by BarcaBlue |
Elephants are known for their long memories. They're not so hot on realism. |
I'm not sure it's them. Nellie couldn't have resisted chucking the word "franchise" in a few times by now and Nellie's spelling and grammar was at least decent even if the content was absolute dreck. |  |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 08:40 - Apr 15 with 776 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 08:32 - Apr 15 by Herbivore |
I'm not sure it's them. Nellie couldn't have resisted chucking the word "franchise" in a few times by now and Nellie's spelling and grammar was at least decent even if the content was absolute dreck. |
Similar MO fixated on money and the fact that we spent £130m-£150m in transfers this season whilst ignoring the context (which has been put to them a million times). And lengthy posts that don't really say a lot other than bitterness. "Franchise" would've been too big a giveaway I think. | |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 08:49 - Apr 15 with 762 views | BarcaBlue |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 08:40 - Apr 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Similar MO fixated on money and the fact that we spent £130m-£150m in transfers this season whilst ignoring the context (which has been put to them a million times). And lengthy posts that don't really say a lot other than bitterness. "Franchise" would've been too big a giveaway I think. |
Nellie...the cunning elephant. | | | |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 17:35 - Apr 15 with 654 views | JackNorthStand |
Yes you have missed something obvious.
You know he’s got to agree to go, why would he agree to being a pawn in Manchester City’s transfer game? He will just go to the club he sees as best fit, not via Manchester. | | | |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 17:57 - Apr 15 with 627 views | Bramidan |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 17:35 - Apr 15 by JackNorthStand |
Yes you have missed something obvious.
You know he’s got to agree to go, why would he agree to being a pawn in Manchester City’s transfer game? He will just go to the club he sees as best fit, not via Manchester. |
He might if he was able to negotiate a bung from Man City!
A couple of million to sweeten the deal.
Then move to the club he wants to go to.
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 18:10 - Apr 15 with 615 views | DJR |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 17:35 - Apr 15 by JackNorthStand |
Yes you have missed something obvious.
You know he’s got to agree to go, why would he agree to being a pawn in Manchester City’s transfer game? He will just go to the club he sees as best fit, not via Manchester. |
I would have thought the buy-back clause trumps everything, assuming there is one.
The question then arises as to whether the buy-back clause value is higher than the release value clause.
It's reported as being £40 million as opposed to £30 million for the release, and if that is the case there may well be no point Man City trying to buy him back.
But perhaps the buy-back value is lessened (or even similarly lessened) by relegation, and if so that may change Man City's calculations, even if they don't want Delap as a player. [Post edited 15 Apr 18:14]
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 18:26 - Apr 15 with 588 views | Big_Jase |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 18:10 - Apr 15 by DJR |
I would have thought the buy-back clause trumps everything, assuming there is one.
The question then arises as to whether the buy-back clause value is higher than the release value clause.
It's reported as being £40 million as opposed to £30 million for the release, and if that is the case there may well be no point Man City trying to buy him back.
But perhaps the buy-back value is lessened (or even similarly lessened) by relegation, and if so that may change Man City's calculations, even if they don't want Delap as a player. [Post edited 15 Apr 18:14]
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Buy back is a clause agreed City, relegation clause is agreed with Delap. They are two completely different agreements.
If City decided to activate the buy back, if City wanted to buy him now they would activate the relegation clause to buy him out of his contract at Ipswich. If we stayed up and they chose to go for the buy back, then Delap would still ultimately have to agree terms with them and sign a contract, he couldn’t be forced to sign for them. |  |
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 19:10 - Apr 15 with 565 views | DJR |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 18:26 - Apr 15 by Big_Jase |
Buy back is a clause agreed City, relegation clause is agreed with Delap. They are two completely different agreements.
If City decided to activate the buy back, if City wanted to buy him now they would activate the relegation clause to buy him out of his contract at Ipswich. If we stayed up and they chose to go for the buy back, then Delap would still ultimately have to agree terms with them and sign a contract, he couldn’t be forced to sign for them. |
I realise they are two completely different agreements but the following (from an online explanation) suggests the buy-back clause is likely to be binding on Delap.
"Typically, a buy-back clause automatically triggers the transfer of the player should specific contractual conditions be met. In practice, the selling club will not have any way of refusing the buy-back offer if the clause is intended to be an automatic trigger and it is drafted appropriately."
But of course, without knowing all the various terms, it is very difficult to be absolutely sure about things.
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 19:17 - Apr 15 with 546 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 19:10 - Apr 15 by DJR |
I realise they are two completely different agreements but the following (from an online explanation) suggests the buy-back clause is likely to be binding on Delap.
"Typically, a buy-back clause automatically triggers the transfer of the player should specific contractual conditions be met. In practice, the selling club will not have any way of refusing the buy-back offer if the clause is intended to be an automatic trigger and it is drafted appropriately."
But of course, without knowing all the various terms, it is very difficult to be absolutely sure about things.
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This is my understanding too.
Also, with a buy-back clause, the terms that the player would rejoin are also normally pre-agreed. Therefore, by definition, Delap will have already agreed his new contract with ManC on the buy-back being triggered. | | | |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 19:33 - Apr 15 with 524 views | DJR |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 19:17 - Apr 15 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This is my understanding too.
Also, with a buy-back clause, the terms that the player would rejoin are also normally pre-agreed. Therefore, by definition, Delap will have already agreed his new contract with ManC on the buy-back being triggered. |
If nothing else, if Delap were now worth £60 million and rival clubs could buy him for £30 million (with Man City's cut only 20% of the profit), I would say (as a lawyer) that Man City's lawyers had not done their job if Delap could just choose who he wanted.
Of course, it may be that Man City won't exercise the buy-back clause but I think that is a different matter [Post edited 15 Apr 19:39]
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| delap: why would city not be interested? on 21:00 - Apr 15 with 467 views | skinnybob72 |
| delap: why would city not be interested? on 17:57 - Apr 9 by Exiled2Surrey |
are they allowed to under the rules - could he play for the third club? |
When it comes to City there are no rules. | | | |
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