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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older 13:19 - May 29 with 2920 viewsSteve_M



No Smoking Ban 29th May 2001 14:18
The ban on smoking in the upper tier of the South Stand is to be lifted. Up to now smoking has not been allowed in the new tier, but the club is allowing smokers the chance to puff away to their hearts' content during the new season. 1



The pre-smoking ban world seems a long way away.

Obviously today, there's just an inordinate number of people who need a sh1t at half-time.....

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 13:51 - May 29 with 2274 viewsIllinoisblue

Also of note: Phil’s upbeat carefree tone. “Puff away to their heart’s content.”

It seems almost unthinkable now that smoking at footy or indeed the pub was acceptable and considered normal. Go home after a night out stinking of smoke because that’s just the way it was.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:03 - May 29 with 2038 viewsFunge

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 13:51 - May 29 by Illinoisblue

Also of note: Phil’s upbeat carefree tone. “Puff away to their heart’s content.”

It seems almost unthinkable now that smoking at footy or indeed the pub was acceptable and considered normal. Go home after a night out stinking of smoke because that’s just the way it was.


The first few months after the smoking ban, every pub smelt like vomit/ parmesan - remember thinking about how grim it was.

Smoking is pure grot - I used to get through 20 a day in my teens, mucky old habit.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:03 - May 29 by Funge

The first few months after the smoking ban, every pub smelt like vomit/ parmesan - remember thinking about how grim it was.

Smoking is pure grot - I used to get through 20 a day in my teens, mucky old habit.


Helpful cover when you got a bo11ocking of the old dear for stinking of fags when you got in to be able to blame the pub in general though.

The idea you could ever smoke on aeroplanes is absolutely mental.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:25 - May 29 with 1971 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 13:51 - May 29 by Illinoisblue

Also of note: Phil’s upbeat carefree tone. “Puff away to their heart’s content.”

It seems almost unthinkable now that smoking at footy or indeed the pub was acceptable and considered normal. Go home after a night out stinking of smoke because that’s just the way it was.


I'm quite amused by much younger me's irony.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:35 - May 29 with 1935 viewsronnyd

Years ago i left my Wrangler cord jacket in the Macebearer pub in Bury after a Town night game. Didn't realise for nearly a week so went to retrieve it. It absolutely stunk of fags, so bad in fact i had to bin it. Shame, i liked that jacket.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 20:27 - May 29 with 1826 viewsFunge

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:13 - May 29 by vapour_trail

Helpful cover when you got a bo11ocking of the old dear for stinking of fags when you got in to be able to blame the pub in general though.

The idea you could ever smoke on aeroplanes is absolutely mental.


I honestly used to think that a couple pieces Wrigley's Spearmint would cure all - mother, sadly, saw through my disguise.

Used to sit on the smoking carriage on the train coming back from Uni up north - honestly, more passive smoking in an hour's travel from Donny to Peterborough than in perhaps any pub in the whole of England. The tables were stained amber-yellow, Vappers - pure ming!

Those carriages *absolutely* hummed.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 13:51 - May 29 by Illinoisblue

Also of note: Phil’s upbeat carefree tone. “Puff away to their heart’s content.”

It seems almost unthinkable now that smoking at footy or indeed the pub was acceptable and considered normal. Go home after a night out stinking of smoke because that’s just the way it was.


It was disgusting wasn’t it. All your clothes from the night before would be stinking and have to go straight in the wash.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 21:25 - May 29 with 1757 viewsernie

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:25 - May 29 by PhilTWTD

I'm quite amused by much younger me's irony.


How could the ban on smoking in the new upper tier of the South Stand have been lifted by May 29 2001?

What was the first date that the South Stand was open and used? I thought it was later than this.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:05 - May 29 with 1615 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 21:25 - May 29 by ernie

How could the ban on smoking in the new upper tier of the South Stand have been lifted by May 29 2001?

What was the first date that the South Stand was open and used? I thought it was later than this.


The earliest story on fans using the upper tier I can find is this:


New Tier Seating 23rd Mar 2001 18:49
Town have announced that the extra 2,000 tickets, planned to be available on the top tier of the South Stand from the Newcastle game, will go into the existing ballot. 0

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:14 - May 29 with 1575 viewsParisBlue

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:05 - May 29 by PhilTWTD

The earliest story on fans using the upper tier I can find is this:


New Tier Seating 23rd Mar 2001 18:49
Town have announced that the extra 2,000 tickets, planned to be available on the top tier of the South Stand from the Newcastle game, will go into the existing ballot. 0



Might be wrong, but thought it was opened for the Liverpool midweek game l, a few days before Newcastle.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:14 - May 29 with 1572 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 20:27 - May 29 by Funge

I honestly used to think that a couple pieces Wrigley's Spearmint would cure all - mother, sadly, saw through my disguise.

Used to sit on the smoking carriage on the train coming back from Uni up north - honestly, more passive smoking in an hour's travel from Donny to Peterborough than in perhaps any pub in the whole of England. The tables were stained amber-yellow, Vappers - pure ming!

Those carriages *absolutely* hummed.


I raise you the cellar bar in the Albion Mills, eye-bleedingly smoky. Ironically, eventually you had to go out to smoke as there was so much smoke in there matches wouldn't light.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:17 - May 29 with 1557 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 23:14 - May 29 by ParisBlue

Might be wrong, but thought it was opened for the Liverpool midweek game l, a few days before Newcastle.


You are correct:


More Ballot Tickets for Liverpool 4th Apr 2001 18:26
Town have confirmed that they will have extra seats available in the South Stand for this season's remaining games. Yesterday the stand was seen by safety inspectors and the club have now been given permission to seat fans in the new tier. 0

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 08:16 - May 30 with 1281 viewsSteve_M

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 20:27 - May 29 by Funge

I honestly used to think that a couple pieces Wrigley's Spearmint would cure all - mother, sadly, saw through my disguise.

Used to sit on the smoking carriage on the train coming back from Uni up north - honestly, more passive smoking in an hour's travel from Donny to Peterborough than in perhaps any pub in the whole of England. The tables were stained amber-yellow, Vappers - pure ming!

Those carriages *absolutely* hummed.


I sat down on the smoking carriage once when I was commuting. Took me about five seconds to realise it was a mistake. Think that was actually grimmer than a rail replacement bus via Newbury park.

I think I could accept that a big night out meant being covered in smoke but I absolutely detested the same thing when going for a beer or two after work.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 08:19 - May 30 with 1278 viewsHerbivore

Back in the days when the wokerati weren't running things.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 09:13 - May 30 with 1209 viewsblueasfook

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 13:51 - May 29 by Illinoisblue

Also of note: Phil’s upbeat carefree tone. “Puff away to their heart’s content.”

It seems almost unthinkable now that smoking at footy or indeed the pub was acceptable and considered normal. Go home after a night out stinking of smoke because that’s just the way it was.


I remember having a ciggy in the Cobbold back in the day. Seems weird now. I dont even smoke anymore anyway.

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 18:35 - May 29 by ronnyd

Years ago i left my Wrangler cord jacket in the Macebearer pub in Bury after a Town night game. Didn't realise for nearly a week so went to retrieve it. It absolutely stunk of fags, so bad in fact i had to bin it. Shame, i liked that jacket.


They have washing machines now too.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:17 - May 30 with 1083 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 09:13 - May 30 by blueasfook

I remember having a ciggy in the Cobbold back in the day. Seems weird now. I dont even smoke anymore anyway.


I remember Neilski wrote a poem about play-off nervousness and saying he was "smoking like Norwich Library".
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:20 - May 30 with 1058 viewsblueasfook

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:17 - May 30 by PhilTWTD

I remember Neilski wrote a poem about play-off nervousness and saying he was "smoking like Norwich Library".


Lol, good old Neilski. What happened to him? He still about?

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:20 - May 30 with 1052 viewsleitrimblue

TWTD, I miss not being able to smoke a big fat one to take the pressure off in the 2nd half
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:21 - May 30 with 1044 viewsblueasfook

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:20 - May 30 by leitrimblue

TWTD, I miss not being able to smoke a big fat one to take the pressure off in the 2nd half


You smoked weed at PR? Hardcore maaaan

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:23 - May 30 with 1038 viewsPhilTWTD

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:20 - May 30 by blueasfook

Lol, good old Neilski. What happened to him? He still about?


Yes, still around. Met him for a drink with a couple of other friends a month or so ago. Not sue whether he's still writing the Town-related poetry though.
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:35 - May 30 with 970 viewsleitrimblue

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:21 - May 30 by blueasfook

You smoked weed at PR? Hardcore maaaan


Yer, just me, think I was the only one..
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:38 - May 30 with 951 viewsblueasfook

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:35 - May 30 by leitrimblue

Yer, just me, think I was the only one..


Amazed you got away with it! Did the folks around you not notice the strange smell?

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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:51 - May 30 with 907 viewsleitrimblue

How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 11:38 - May 30 by blueasfook

Amazed you got away with it! Did the folks around you not notice the strange smell?


It was probably the mid 90,s when i last smoked inside there. I'm sure some people may have groaned, just pretend you don't see or hear them and carry on. Different times man..Those around me woulda been with me.
The last time I smoked inside Portman Road was out on practice pitch at half time or before kick off probably about 20-25 years ago. Some steward got the right hump and asked me to put it out..
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How the world changes - this from 2001 seems far older on 12:03 - May 30 with 885 views_clive_baker_

I first started going along to PR as a kid in about 1993 / 1994. Bloke a couple of seats along from me used to smoke like a chimney during the game and I remember finding it gross when it wafted in my direction, but that was pretty normal then and just the way it was. I've never had a problem with it at half time etc or in a designated area, that's no different to being out in the street really. I wouldn't have much of an issue with it being allowed in an open concourse like at the Valley or something, even as a non smoker.

I find it hard to imagine people ever smoked inside an office, that blows my mind. Or on a plane. Smoking and non smoking sections in restaurants, how did that even work?
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