| The rules of war- 2025 11:48 - Jun 18 with 2830 views | BlueOura |
1) - Israel is allowed to do whatever it wants in Gaza, take over the land bit by bit and effectively commit a slow genocide on the people living there - no intervention from Western nations at all, just the odd mumble of condemnation after about 20 years.
2) - Israel is allowed to attack Iran in 'self-defence' just in case Iran might have been planning to attack them first. Israel has a'right to defend itself' of course, as we are regularly told.
3) - Israel and lots of Western nations are allowed to have nuclear weapons, Iran are not allowed because that would be dangerous to the World.
4) - The US ( and probably other western nations ) are set to jump into this war and 'help' Israel, because obviously Iran are the big threat to us all. We couldn't possibly help the Palestinians of course.
Complete the list, I'm sure I have missed a few. This World is seriously messed up and inverted. I remember as a kid growing up thinking we were the 'good guys' and these other strange countries on the news were evil and the enemy. They sure did a good job with the propaganda and brain-washing. I wonder if the new generation are going to fall for it so easily. I hope not. |  | | |  |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:12 - Jun 18 with 643 views | LeoMuff |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:04 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Yes they would use it.
The Ayatollah has said more than once they want the destruction of the Zionists. They aren't concerned about anything else they might destroy, the only thing that matters is the complete destruction of Israel
Even if it means their slaves like the Palestinians, are also destroyed with them, the destruction of Israel is the ultimate important result.
Allah will provide each of them a 100 virgins for killing the Zionists. Obviously they will be oppressed virgins, forced to wear veils, not allowed an education, not allowed to work (well other than forced into prostitution to fulfil what the men want from them as a virgin). |
All words, we have no idea if they would use it.
Most likely situation according to the most advanced intelligence agency in the world is that they don’t have one and aren’t actively seeking one and haven’t been for a few years |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:15 - Jun 18 with 636 views | positivity |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:12 - Jun 18 by LeoMuff |
All words, we have no idea if they would use it.
Most likely situation according to the most advanced intelligence agency in the world is that they don’t have one and aren’t actively seeking one and haven’t been for a few years |
and in the real world, rather than the rhetorical world of tyrant-speak, they'd be far, far more likely to use it like north korea and israel do as security |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:33 - Jun 18 with 600 views | Blueschev |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:04 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Yes they would use it.
The Ayatollah has said more than once they want the destruction of the Zionists. They aren't concerned about anything else they might destroy, the only thing that matters is the complete destruction of Israel
Even if it means their slaves like the Palestinians, are also destroyed with them, the destruction of Israel is the ultimate important result.
Allah will provide each of them a 100 virgins for killing the Zionists. Obviously they will be oppressed virgins, forced to wear veils, not allowed an education, not allowed to work (well other than forced into prostitution to fulfil what the men want from them as a virgin). |
The current Iranian regime is abhorrent, and the sooner they are overthrown by the Iranian people the better. But they are not irrational, nor are they suicidal. Ali Khamenei has issued a Fatwa against the use of nuclear weapons. The rest of what you've written just sounds like a jumble of Tommy Robinson soundbites. [Post edited 18 Jun 16:39]
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:35 - Jun 18 with 596 views | NthQldITFC |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 13:29 - Jun 18 by BondiBlue |
All reasonable points, but at some point you just have to pick a side. I don't think team iran/hezbollah/hamas likes you very much or particularly wants you on their side, so i'd go with team israel if i were you. |
I was rather hoping that there was a third option? |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:43 - Jun 18 with 573 views | NthQldITFC |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:04 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Yes they would use it.
The Ayatollah has said more than once they want the destruction of the Zionists. They aren't concerned about anything else they might destroy, the only thing that matters is the complete destruction of Israel
Even if it means their slaves like the Palestinians, are also destroyed with them, the destruction of Israel is the ultimate important result.
Allah will provide each of them a 100 virgins for killing the Zionists. Obviously they will be oppressed virgins, forced to wear veils, not allowed an education, not allowed to work (well other than forced into prostitution to fulfil what the men want from them as a virgin). |
Ludicrous. They are not stupid. Iran would cease to exist if they tried to use it. It would be MAD but their putative prototype weapon would be untested and possibly destroyed before it had a chance to detonate, so MAD without the M, really. | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:49 - Jun 18 with 561 views | BloomBlue |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:33 - Jun 18 by Blueschev |
The current Iranian regime is abhorrent, and the sooner they are overthrown by the Iranian people the better. But they are not irrational, nor are they suicidal. Ali Khamenei has issued a Fatwa against the use of nuclear weapons. The rest of what you've written just sounds like a jumble of Tommy Robinson soundbites. [Post edited 18 Jun 16:39]
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A fatwa from 2003 that others within Iran confirmed meant nothing and was designed to fool everyone. Plus on more than once Iranian officials have said that was only based on things that could/would change.
You're starting to sound like Owen Jones, and honestly you don't want to sound like that hater of Jewish people. |  | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:57 - Jun 18 with 539 views | Blueschev |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:49 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
A fatwa from 2003 that others within Iran confirmed meant nothing and was designed to fool everyone. Plus on more than once Iranian officials have said that was only based on things that could/would change.
You're starting to sound like Owen Jones, and honestly you don't want to sound like that hater of Jewish people. |
Owen Jones may be a bit of a div, but I sincerely doubt he hates Jewish people, and it's quite insulting to victims of antisemitism to throw the accusation around so flippantly just because you don't agree with someone. | | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 17:09 - Jun 18 with 520 views | DJR |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:35 - Jun 18 by NthQldITFC |
I was rather hoping that there was a third option? |
I'm in Team International Law. |  | | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 17:20 - Jun 18 with 491 views | leitrimblue |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:04 - Jun 18 by BloomBlue |
Yes they would use it.
The Ayatollah has said more than once they want the destruction of the Zionists. They aren't concerned about anything else they might destroy, the only thing that matters is the complete destruction of Israel
Even if it means their slaves like the Palestinians, are also destroyed with them, the destruction of Israel is the ultimate important result.
Allah will provide each of them a 100 virgins for killing the Zionists. Obviously they will be oppressed virgins, forced to wear veils, not allowed an education, not allowed to work (well other than forced into prostitution to fulfil what the men want from them as a virgin). |
Im guessing such a champion of human rights as yerself must be absolutely disgusted with the genocide and ethnic cleansing being carried out in Palastine at the moment? |  | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 23:46 - Jun 18 with 383 views | BondiBlue |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 15:51 - Jun 18 by Blueschev |
Why must you pick a side? |
Good question. Er...because war is a binary choice between life and death? Not really for us though. Because the internet forces you to have an opinion on everything? | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 00:41 - Jun 19 with 361 views | WicklowBlue |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 23:46 - Jun 18 by BondiBlue |
Good question. Er...because war is a binary choice between life and death? Not really for us though. Because the internet forces you to have an opinion on everything? |
People who think like that is why we have this absolute geopolitical mess/disaster unfolding before our eyes!
Where is the proverbial adult in the room leadership wise? The current regime in the US are sleepwalking (or more controversially deliberately) into empowering Russia, China and NK further.
As for the "not really for us though" comment, well I'd like to hear why?
Anyways everyone please carry on...apologies for interrupting |  | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 01:39 - Jun 19 with 340 views | Ryorry |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 13:29 - Jun 18 by BondiBlue |
All reasonable points, but at some point you just have to pick a side. I don't think team iran/hezbollah/hamas likes you very much or particularly wants you on their side, so i'd go with team israel if i were you. |
They have in common that they’re all deranged madmen who don’t actually care about people, even their own - all they’re after is power, territory and money, which are inextricably linked, in the name of their irrational, futile ideologies.
Human beings seem to have over-evolved to the point of self-destruction in allowing some key leaders ‘promotion to their level of incompetence’ (and worse). |  |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 03:24 - Jun 19 with 311 views | BondiBlue |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 00:41 - Jun 19 by WicklowBlue |
People who think like that is why we have this absolute geopolitical mess/disaster unfolding before our eyes!
Where is the proverbial adult in the room leadership wise? The current regime in the US are sleepwalking (or more controversially deliberately) into empowering Russia, China and NK further.
As for the "not really for us though" comment, well I'd like to hear why?
Anyways everyone please carry on...apologies for interrupting |
It's not really a binary choice of life or death for me because i'm at work 10,000 miles away in a country that isn't participating in the conflict we're discussing. If i was involved in the conflict somehow, i would absolutely be on a side unless i was an aid worker of some sort. | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 05:30 - Jun 19 with 285 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:43 - Jun 18 by NthQldITFC |
Ludicrous. They are not stupid. Iran would cease to exist if they tried to use it. It would be MAD but their putative prototype weapon would be untested and possibly destroyed before it had a chance to detonate, so MAD without the M, really. |
But having the ability to use the threat of nuclear weapons would be enough for them to act with impunity (see Russia), with or without willingness to deploy them. I don’t support any military action, but seemingly some people don’t realise what a belligerent regime they are. Aside from attacking Israel from its ‘axis of resistance’, heavily fueling the Syrian civil war, assisting with genocide in Yemen, attacking civilian shipping and aid, as well as supplying weapons and support to Russia’s murderous campaign in Ukraine.
The US and Isreal need to step back, but this almost revisionist version of Iran as some unassuming victim is a little odd. A nuclear armed Iranian regime should make anyone feel concerned. Hopefully the Iranian people can bring down the regime who’ve brought misery and financial crisis to them whilst spending billions on arming regional proxies. | | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 05:46 - Jun 19 with 281 views | Ryorry |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:12 - Jun 18 by LeoMuff |
All words, we have no idea if they would use it.
Most likely situation according to the most advanced intelligence agency in the world is that they don’t have one and aren’t actively seeking one and haven’t been for a few years |
I’m more inclined to believe the hugely experienced, fact-checking, Frank Gardner of the BBC, whose comment on the World Service this morning was that only the innermost circle of the Iranian regime knows whether they currently have functioning nuclear weapons; but that they certainly have the materials/capacity to make them. | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 05:47 - Jun 19 with 280 views | charlie_lynton |
But whose rules, that's the problem. You can't have 'rules of war' |  | | |
| WAR IS STUPID AND AWFUL - but we all know that, don't we ? on 06:27 - Jun 19 with 248 views | WeWereZombies |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 03:24 - Jun 19 by BondiBlue |
It's not really a binary choice of life or death for me because i'm at work 10,000 miles away in a country that isn't participating in the conflict we're discussing. If i was involved in the conflict somehow, i would absolutely be on a side unless i was an aid worker of some sort. |
Your dismissive last sentence about aid workers ignores the possibility that you could be the citizen of a nation that has other citizens of that nation delighting in the death of your relatives:
'Minutes after their deaths, a video emerged online. It showed the Iranian missiles streaking through the sky overhead. As they descend on Tamra, a voice can be heard shouting, in Hebrew: "On the village, on the village."
"May your village burn," a group of others then say, singing, whooping and clapping.
"They sang about what happened to my family," says Kasem, softly, surrounded by relatives at a vigil.
The video - which shows Israelis singing a common anti-Arab chant often sung by ultranationalist Jews - has been widely condemned in Israel, with President Isaac Herzog calling it "appalling and disgraceful".'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vr51pzvm0o [Post edited 19 Jun 6:29]
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| WAR IS STUPID AND AWFUL - but we all know that, don't we ? on 07:47 - Jun 19 with 192 views | BondiBlue |
| WAR IS STUPID AND AWFUL - but we all know that, don't we ? on 06:27 - Jun 19 by WeWereZombies |
Your dismissive last sentence about aid workers ignores the possibility that you could be the citizen of a nation that has other citizens of that nation delighting in the death of your relatives:
'Minutes after their deaths, a video emerged online. It showed the Iranian missiles streaking through the sky overhead. As they descend on Tamra, a voice can be heard shouting, in Hebrew: "On the village, on the village."
"May your village burn," a group of others then say, singing, whooping and clapping.
"They sang about what happened to my family," says Kasem, softly, surrounded by relatives at a vigil.
The video - which shows Israelis singing a common anti-Arab chant often sung by ultranationalist Jews - has been widely condemned in Israel, with President Isaac Herzog calling it "appalling and disgraceful".'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vr51pzvm0o [Post edited 19 Jun 6:29]
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Ah yep ok. Foot in both camps. That would suck. | |
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| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:11 - Jun 19 with 72 views | bluejacko |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 14:13 - Jun 18 by StokieBlue |
The US own intelligence agency stated to days ago that their evidence suggested Iran wasn't manufacturing a bomb.
This has been sold as the excuse for the attacks when in reality it's an extension of the perpetual war required by Netanyahu to maintain power.
It'll be interesting to see how Trump's base take any intervention given he campaigned as a President of peace promising no more foreign wars.
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It’s odd though isn’t it? The first report clearly stated that they were enriching way more uranium that necessary for civilian use and then the bloke seen glad handing the Russians when they had clearly mined the reactors in Ukraine said nothing to be seen here!
Even the Russians a ‘close’ ally of Iran have not given been stupid enough to give them the tech for a bomb! | | | |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 16:20 - Jun 19 with 54 views | blueasfook |
| The rules of war- 2025 on 05:46 - Jun 19 by Ryorry |
I’m more inclined to believe the hugely experienced, fact-checking, Frank Gardner of the BBC, whose comment on the World Service this morning was that only the innermost circle of the Iranian regime knows whether they currently have functioning nuclear weapons; but that they certainly have the materials/capacity to make them. |
I doubt they have one already. They would have to perform tests and none have been detected. There is equipment all over the world and in space for detecting nuclear detonations. Every time little rocket man lets one off in North Korea we know about it. |  |
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