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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna 08:40 - Jul 5 with 5584 viewsPinewoodblue

In recent weeks we have seen the departure of five non playing team members with just one internal promotion announced.

All moved themselves on presumably to do better. We have also not been able to retain out of contract players we presumably wanted to keep on board.

Hopefully Ashton isn’t spending too much time concentrating on the upcoming concerts, while I’m sure they are a source of revenue we need to be focused on the core business.

The only objective ought to be assembling a team to get us back to Premier League. Precious little sign of it.






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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 18:45 - Jul 5 with 1019 viewsbraveblue

Nonsense. Just absolute nonsense.
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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 19:04 - Jul 5 with 972 viewsArnieM

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 15:37 - Jul 5 by bsw72

Ed Schwartz as majority shareholder.


But hes residing in the USA. Yes there's room or Teams etc, but hes not literally beside Ashton.

I think Ashton is a it of a power mogal. At Town hes operating with the luxury of VERY wealthy ba keys. Money no object. And Ashton has no immediate check in place on a day to day basis regarding his decision making. It really isn't a safe situation in my humble opinion. If the brown stuff hits the fan he'll be the first to make for the fast exit, or even if a better job becomes available he may well decide to run ship. Then who is at this Club to step in?

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 20:53 - Jul 5 with 919 viewsPioneerBlue

Twtd thread takes a weird personal interests direction once again.

This mis understanding over the role of a chairperson and a CEO is ridiculous.

Why do people start searching for issues and problems without even a simple understanding of the nature of the chair and CEO role in its governance structure?

I have set this out before:

The Chairperson leads the board of directors, ensuring governance, oversight, and strategic direction.

CHAIRPERSON IS NOT A DAY TO DAY ROLE AND IS NOT INVOLVED IN OPERATIONAL MATTERS UNLESS THERE IS A CRISIS

The CEO is accountable to the board and chairperson where one exists and runs day to day operations and oversees the work of the functional directors.

There is significant capability on our board able to hold MA to account or provide counsel. If the board didn’t have the time to provide the strategic direction or oversight they might consider a chair to facilitate. I would be quite surprised if there isn’t a direct line as needed between a member of the board and key members of ITFC leadership, potentially including KMck, man marking if you like likely through regular visits.
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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 21:31 - Jul 5 with 870 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 20:53 - Jul 5 by PioneerBlue

Twtd thread takes a weird personal interests direction once again.

This mis understanding over the role of a chairperson and a CEO is ridiculous.

Why do people start searching for issues and problems without even a simple understanding of the nature of the chair and CEO role in its governance structure?

I have set this out before:

The Chairperson leads the board of directors, ensuring governance, oversight, and strategic direction.

CHAIRPERSON IS NOT A DAY TO DAY ROLE AND IS NOT INVOLVED IN OPERATIONAL MATTERS UNLESS THERE IS A CRISIS

The CEO is accountable to the board and chairperson where one exists and runs day to day operations and oversees the work of the functional directors.

There is significant capability on our board able to hold MA to account or provide counsel. If the board didn’t have the time to provide the strategic direction or oversight they might consider a chair to facilitate. I would be quite surprised if there isn’t a direct line as needed between a member of the board and key members of ITFC leadership, potentially including KMck, man marking if you like likely through regular visits.
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I’ve posted very similar comments, but most people don’t seem to get the difference between corporate governance and day-today operational management.

A will written explanation.
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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 21:41 - Jul 5 with 842 viewsFrimleyBlue

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 20:53 - Jul 5 by PioneerBlue

Twtd thread takes a weird personal interests direction once again.

This mis understanding over the role of a chairperson and a CEO is ridiculous.

Why do people start searching for issues and problems without even a simple understanding of the nature of the chair and CEO role in its governance structure?

I have set this out before:

The Chairperson leads the board of directors, ensuring governance, oversight, and strategic direction.

CHAIRPERSON IS NOT A DAY TO DAY ROLE AND IS NOT INVOLVED IN OPERATIONAL MATTERS UNLESS THERE IS A CRISIS

The CEO is accountable to the board and chairperson where one exists and runs day to day operations and oversees the work of the functional directors.

There is significant capability on our board able to hold MA to account or provide counsel. If the board didn’t have the time to provide the strategic direction or oversight they might consider a chair to facilitate. I would be quite surprised if there isn’t a direct line as needed between a member of the board and key members of ITFC leadership, potentially including KMck, man marking if you like likely through regular visits.
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Whilst true. It can be remembered that o leary was transparent about MA having a large list of things he wanted to do however o leary would step in and say maybe not yet or maybe a different direction needed ( something along those lines)

Of course MA will answer to the owners. But which of those are indeed saying to MA don't do this or maybe do that instead.

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 22:36 - Jul 5 with 760 viewsPioneerBlue

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 21:41 - Jul 5 by FrimleyBlue

Whilst true. It can be remembered that o leary was transparent about MA having a large list of things he wanted to do however o leary would step in and say maybe not yet or maybe a different direction needed ( something along those lines)

Of course MA will answer to the owners. But which of those are indeed saying to MA don't do this or maybe do that instead.


Mol executed a very specific time bound role in helping GC20 identify an acquisition target and finalise a deal with ME. He then provided a UK link to the embryonic board and fledgling CEO at a time when the cluub was in a transition period.

I don’t know which perceived or made up problem folks are looking to solve. Either way it is the job of the board to hold MA to account and via ITFC and fan forum meetings wider stakeholders (fans) can voice any concerns they may have in a public forum.

Everyone can stand down.

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 22:52 - Jul 5 with 728 viewsFrimleyBlue

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 22:36 - Jul 5 by PioneerBlue

Mol executed a very specific time bound role in helping GC20 identify an acquisition target and finalise a deal with ME. He then provided a UK link to the embryonic board and fledgling CEO at a time when the cluub was in a transition period.

I don’t know which perceived or made up problem folks are looking to solve. Either way it is the job of the board to hold MA to account and via ITFC and fan forum meetings wider stakeholders (fans) can voice any concerns they may have in a public forum.

Everyone can stand down.


I wouldn't say problem i think it's one of those real split in opinions of what works best. Chairman and a ceo v ceo/chairman.

I don't personally know of course how things are done at pr. So can only really have an opinion based on what i remember o learly said about mas wish to do alot.

Really and most importantly. If we succeed it doesn't matter either way.

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 23:04 - Jul 5 with 706 viewsmutters

People have to separate the playing side Vs the corporate side I the operations. For most the club is just a company that pays their wages, it's akin to a corporate job, albeit in a more interesting place!

People leave for jobs all the time, football is no different

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 23:06 - Jul 5 with 702 viewsbackwaywhen

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 14:49 - Jul 6 with 485 viewsRimsy

I think some of the backroom staff, like some of the players, failed to live up to life in the PL. Only natural to move them on and get someone better in.

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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 15:14 - Jul 6 with 459 viewsitfcsuth

There is a valid debate around the departure of many staff members behind the scenes, but when you then throw out that Ashton is more focused on concerts it becomes a laughable post.

Backroom staff are not on lucrative contracts, and like any other career, even more so in backroom staff, people want to progress their careers.

Seeing good people go on to develop their careers by making steps forward, is a positive reflection of the good work at the club - both playing staff and backroom staff.
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Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 12:52 - Jul 7 with 319 viewsdarkhorse28

Erosion of team Ashton / McKenna on 14:09 - Jul 5 by bsw72

Unless you know the club staff structure, the people involved and how it functions day to day, then this is utter nonsense and supposition based on media snippets.

A CEO being front and centre is common place, doesn’t mean he does everything but he is ultimately accountable for everything the club does and therefore positions himself as such.


Except it is public record, it is known.

Club positions here and elsewhere aren’t conjecture. Forest signing Edu wasn’t a dream, Ashton saying he hasn’t had a day off not plucked from the ether, and him being Chairman and CEO is unusual in a football club our size.

The departures are known, and that lots of them were recruited recently is known, hardly Columbo levels of critical thinking king to see why they’ve left.., not good enough.., we didn’t contingency planning behind 12 months, is a fact in all cases.

There’s certainly no long term structure, with constant bums on seats, again, that’s a measure.

There’s not even conjecture around it being poor recruitment and contingency planning. That’s just 101 of growing any business.

Building the senior group is essential…, I don’t see the most senior football club CEO’s getting involved in the summer commercial activities .., why would they need to.

That Ashton likes control, and can’t let go, can’t delegate, and therefore can’t build a high performance team. That’s conjecture. Though it’s also supported by 35 years in the game, and never managing to do it.

So if that isn’t the problem, there certainly is one. Is it Gamechanger? Can they build an elite club?

We’re potentially making the same mistakes as under Evans could be the reality.

Trusting one or two individuals with the whole structure, and if it doesn’t work, we start again.

Ashton left Wycombe after 4 months and left football entirely for a protracted period.., what’s our club structure like without Ashton? .., I don’t think a single supporter could answer that.

That certainly isn’t how any side out size that’s established in the premier league, operate.

Ashton is clearly a talented EFL operator, but he seems to get an awful lot of mitigation, just for not being Simon Clegg.., not exactly elite levels of agency and standards.
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