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Important note about protests and protesters 10:43 - Jul 6 with 849 viewsredrickstuhaart

You cannot "protest" a thing. You can protest about it, or against it. Or even over it. But you can't just protest it. That is grammatically silly and a nasty Americanism which we ought to protest against.

See also "shop the range" or "shop our store"
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Important note about protests and protesters on 10:48 - Jul 6 with 807 viewsitfcserbia

For example, in Serbia we protest against Vucic's repressive regime and hijacking of all three legislative, executive and judicial power in the country by a nationalist madman.

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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:05 - Jul 6 with 763 viewsGuthrum

Not strictly true. It's archaic rather than American, one can protest an opinion, to express it forcefully, as in "Methinks he doth protest too much".

Tho you're right within that context, it is being used mainly as lazy shorthand for "to stage/participate in a protest".

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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:18 - Jul 6 with 728 viewsbsw72

That’s not true, you can protest a law or protest against a law, both are correct. The first is merely more direct and is transitive verb usage while the latter is phrasal verb usage and considered more expressive.

Both however are grammatically correct.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:28 - Jul 6 with 691 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:18 - Jul 6 by bsw72

That’s not true, you can protest a law or protest against a law, both are correct. The first is merely more direct and is transitive verb usage while the latter is phrasal verb usage and considered more expressive.

Both however are grammatically correct.


Its an ugly, lazy, clumsy americanism.

We must resist.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:30 - Jul 6 with 682 viewsSwansea_Blue

Important note about protests and protesters on 10:48 - Jul 6 by itfcserbia

For example, in Serbia we protest against Vucic's repressive regime and hijacking of all three legislative, executive and judicial power in the country by a nationalist madman.


That’s a timely reminder that although things aren’t great in the UK, they could be a lot worse

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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:31 - Jul 6 with 679 viewsNthQldITFC

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:05 - Jul 6 by Guthrum

Not strictly true. It's archaic rather than American, one can protest an opinion, to express it forcefully, as in "Methinks he doth protest too much".

Tho you're right within that context, it is being used mainly as lazy shorthand for "to stage/participate in a protest".


* "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" - Lady Gertrude, I think?

Can I add the similar "it needs ****ed" - what the f happened to the "to be", eh? That needs kicked into the long grass, pronto.

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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:47 - Jul 6 with 648 viewsbsw72

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:28 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

Its an ugly, lazy, clumsy americanism.

We must resist.


American money saved our club, language evolves, it doesn’t matter that much.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:47 - Jul 6 with 649 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:05 - Jul 6 by Guthrum

Not strictly true. It's archaic rather than American, one can protest an opinion, to express it forcefully, as in "Methinks he doth protest too much".

Tho you're right within that context, it is being used mainly as lazy shorthand for "to stage/participate in a protest".


The quote you are using is about the action of protest so it works. Its not specific to a thing- ie "he doth protest against noise pollution, too much". The equivalent would be "methinks he does protest noise pollution" which is the clumsy awkward thing Im complaining about.

I have just been asked by a website to "shop our sale". Grrrr.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:48 - Jul 6 with 642 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:47 - Jul 6 by bsw72

American money saved our club, language evolves, it doesn’t matter that much.


It irritates me. Ergo it matters.

My daughter is currently learning not to say "vinyls" when she means records!
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Important note about protests and protesters on 11:56 - Jul 6 with 609 viewsbsw72

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:48 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

It irritates me. Ergo it matters.

My daughter is currently learning not to say "vinyls" when she means records!


Hate to say it but while the word vinyl is a mass noun, it is now accepted and recorded in the EOD that vinyls is a plural.

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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:06 - Jul 6 with 572 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 11:56 - Jul 6 by bsw72

Hate to say it but while the word vinyl is a mass noun, it is now accepted and recorded in the EOD that vinyls is a plural.

You are Victorian Dad from Viz and I claim my 5 shillings.


Accepted or not, its nonsense. Vinyl records are an anachronism in many ways, and the use of that word comes from a misunderstanding of how it was used back when they were actually the main source of recorded music.

They may as well just scratch nails down a chalkboard 3 inches form my ear whilst whistling an inane tune. The world should be how I want it.

Im just not having it and thats all there is to it :-)
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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:12 - Jul 6 with 567 viewsDJR

I think such usage must have passed me by.

Can you give an example?
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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:17 - Jul 6 with 549 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:12 - Jul 6 by DJR

I think such usage must have passed me by.

Can you give an example?
[Post edited 6 Jul 12:13]


"I bought some vinyls".

"I have a vinyl of that"
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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:19 - Jul 6 with 542 viewsDJR

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:17 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

"I bought some vinyls".

"I have a vinyl of that"


Sorry. I meant the use of protest.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:29 - Jul 6 with 514 viewsNthQldITFC

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:17 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

"I bought some vinyls".

"I have a vinyl of that"


There was also that German band that did the song about the music charts and their excitement when watching Top of the Pops - The Vinyl Countdown, duh-duh-durr, duh-duh-duh-duh-durr...

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Important note about protests and protesters on 12:59 - Jul 6 with 456 viewsEatonBlue

Not to mention the awful americanisms 'train station' and 'movie'.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 13:25 - Jul 6 with 400 viewsbsw72

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:06 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

Accepted or not, its nonsense. Vinyl records are an anachronism in many ways, and the use of that word comes from a misunderstanding of how it was used back when they were actually the main source of recorded music.

They may as well just scratch nails down a chalkboard 3 inches form my ear whilst whistling an inane tune. The world should be how I want it.

Im just not having it and thats all there is to it :-)


It’s amazing the discussions that go on here. Good for you, nothing wrong with sticking to your principles, even if they’re wrong.



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Important note about protests and protesters on 13:40 - Jul 6 with 378 viewsDJR

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:59 - Jul 6 by EatonBlue

Not to mention the awful americanisms 'train station' and 'movie'.


Don't get me started on the pronunciation of "privacy" which I keep correcting by shouting the correct pronunciation every time I hear a current advert.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 13:41 - Jul 6 with 377 viewsDJR

It is possible to say "I protest my innocence" but this is the only exception I am aware of.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 15:34 - Jul 6 with 261 viewsredrickstuhaart

Important note about protests and protesters on 12:19 - Jul 6 by DJR

Sorry. I meant the use of protest.


Its everywhere. They are gathering to protest the gazan war, or to protest the benefits bill etc.

Crept onto the bbc I am sorry to say.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 18:23 - Jul 6 with 135 viewsDJR

Important note about protests and protesters on 15:34 - Jul 6 by redrickstuhaart

Its everywhere. They are gathering to protest the gazan war, or to protest the benefits bill etc.

Crept onto the bbc I am sorry to say.


Not good.
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Important note about protests and protesters on 18:56 - Jul 6 with 108 viewsbaxterbasics

Oh the shop thing annoys me so much. It's everywhere and I fear cannot be resisted.

"Games gone"

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