| Horner sacked by Red Bull 10:31 - Jul 9 with 2163 views | catch74 |
Wonder what will come to light after recent allegations. |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:33 - Jul 9 with 2147 views | Samuelowen88 |
It's felt for a while that the only thing keeping him in his job was the results. And they had obviously taken a dip.
Wonder if this also means Max is off.
I dunno why, and have never met him but Horner has never come across well to me. |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:35 - Jul 9 with 2104 views | belgablue |
Has clearly done an amazing job over the years etc... but I couldn't stand the guy. Especially all his whining before, during and after races. |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:35 - Jul 9 with 2101 views | tonybied |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:33 - Jul 9 by Samuelowen88 |
It's felt for a while that the only thing keeping him in his job was the results. And they had obviously taken a dip.
Wonder if this also means Max is off.
I dunno why, and have never met him but Horner has never come across well to me. |
Either he's being held responsible for losing Max (if Max has decided to go), or it could be that Max/his dad have stipulated that they want Horner gone before Max agrees to stay. It rather well know that Jos can't stand Horner. [Post edited 9 Jul 10:38]
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:37 - Jul 9 with 2065 views | tonybied |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:35 - Jul 9 by belgablue |
Has clearly done an amazing job over the years etc... but I couldn't stand the guy. Especially all his whining before, during and after races. |
"...change your f**king car!" | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:40 - Jul 9 with 2040 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:35 - Jul 9 by tonybied |
Either he's being held responsible for losing Max (if Max has decided to go), or it could be that Max/his dad have stipulated that they want Horner gone before Max agrees to stay. It rather well know that Jos can't stand Horner. [Post edited 9 Jul 10:38]
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yeah that's equally possible. Tbf the whole RB set up just doesnt sit well with me.
Marko is an absolute helmet, the way he talks about divers is amazing in this day and age. You have to remember some of these guys are still kids. | |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:47 - Jul 9 with 1958 views | Trequartista |
Would have been funnier if they’d demoted him to Racing Bulls team principal |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:52 - Jul 9 with 1910 views | tonybied |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:40 - Jul 9 by Samuelowen88 |
yeah that's equally possible. Tbf the whole RB set up just doesnt sit well with me.
Marko is an absolute helmet, the way he talks about divers is amazing in this day and age. You have to remember some of these guys are still kids. |
Helmet Marko!
As someone else mentioned above, I've never liked Christian but you can't argue against his results. Red Bull have consistently been fighting at the top end against works teams with massive resources, which is hugely impressive.
Still, couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke! | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:09 - Jul 9 with 1837 views | Smoresy |
My hunch is this was done to try to retain Max, rather than because of anything new & more untenable from the allegations side. Although without the allegations, Max's Dad and others may not have wanted him removed and Newey may not have left. |  | | |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:11 - Jul 9 with 1820 views | Guthrum |
Uh-oh! What are the odds on McKenna replacing him?? |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:15 - Jul 9 with 1786 views | belgablue |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:35 - Jul 9 by tonybied |
Either he's being held responsible for losing Max (if Max has decided to go), or it could be that Max/his dad have stipulated that they want Horner gone before Max agrees to stay. It rather well know that Jos can't stand Horner. [Post edited 9 Jul 10:38]
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You only have to look at the performances of Max's teammates to see how comparatively poor the car is and how important Max is to them. | |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:20 - Jul 9 with 1754 views | longtimefan |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:40 - Jul 9 by Samuelowen88 |
yeah that's equally possible. Tbf the whole RB set up just doesnt sit well with me.
Marko is an absolute helmet, the way he talks about divers is amazing in this day and age. You have to remember some of these guys are still kids. |
Did he have a go at Tom Daley  | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:53 - Jul 9 with 1580 views | Basuco |
There has been a power struggle at Red Bull for a while and losing key personal such as Adrian Newey, designer Rob Marshall, sporting director Jonathan Weatley and strategy chief Will Courtenay is leaving at the end of the season to join McLaren has clearly hurt them. Maybe he is seen as the problem, he has been CEO and team principal for 20 years! |  | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 12:13 - Jul 9 with 1520 views | solemio |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:20 - Jul 9 by longtimefan |
Did he have a go at Tom Daley |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 13:04 - Jul 9 with 1377 views | stonojnr |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:09 - Jul 9 by Smoresy |
My hunch is this was done to try to retain Max, rather than because of anything new & more untenable from the allegations side. Although without the allegations, Max's Dad and others may not have wanted him removed and Newey may not have left. |
No i dont think so, Jos might clash with Horner, but Max is smart enough to know Red Bull are a better team with Horner inside the tent, not outside the tent or worse working for a rival. If Red Bull want to return to the top quickly it needs a character like Horner pushing them forward.
People forget he took a team who were considered a joke with a not very serious fizzy drink sponsor into world beaters who beat Ferrari, beat the established teams, brought in all the people that engineered that success & have dominated F1 in a way we've rarely seen or maybe ever see again
I think they'll only go backwards from now, youve got the regulation changes, the new power division, still question marks on the 2nd driver, he was spinning alot of plates that unless Mekies is some unknown team boss genius in which case Ferrari will be pondering their choices, i think we could see them imploding.
I suspect Max is busy texting Toto right now | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 13:18 - Jul 9 with 1338 views | stonojnr |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 11:53 - Jul 9 by Basuco |
There has been a power struggle at Red Bull for a while and losing key personal such as Adrian Newey, designer Rob Marshall, sporting director Jonathan Weatley and strategy chief Will Courtenay is leaving at the end of the season to join McLaren has clearly hurt them. Maybe he is seen as the problem, he has been CEO and team principal for 20 years! |
Ever since Dieterich died, who was Horners biggest supporter, yeah there's been a power struggle for the F1 team, Horner saw it as his thing, the Austrian side of the company saw it as theirs and in their gift to allow Horner to run it for them, only the Thai support kept him in.
Clearly that support has now gone, to what end though I dont know as they'll likely drop further down the grid.
They didn't even give him a mutual parting statement, which shows Horner refused to leave by his choice.
And fwiw always liked the guy, I like that he annoys people, especially Toto because he has no sense of humour, F1 is too sterile and corporate without people willing to fight their corner, he was the Neil Warnock of F1, you hated him, but you'd always have him on your team because he'd defend you, he's never blamed anyone on his team for mistakes they've made or chucked them under the bus to protect his own skin.
Plenty of F1 bosses & drivers thesedays are only too willing to do that. | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 13:23 - Jul 9 with 1315 views | Radlett_blue |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:33 - Jul 9 by Samuelowen88 |
It's felt for a while that the only thing keeping him in his job was the results. And they had obviously taken a dip.
Wonder if this also means Max is off.
I dunno why, and have never met him but Horner has never come across well to me. |
Having watched "Drive to Survive", Horner came over as a very shrewd & determined guy, but not someone I would fancy having as my boss. |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 13:37 - Jul 9 with 1275 views | Basuco |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 13:18 - Jul 9 by stonojnr |
Ever since Dieterich died, who was Horners biggest supporter, yeah there's been a power struggle for the F1 team, Horner saw it as his thing, the Austrian side of the company saw it as theirs and in their gift to allow Horner to run it for them, only the Thai support kept him in.
Clearly that support has now gone, to what end though I dont know as they'll likely drop further down the grid.
They didn't even give him a mutual parting statement, which shows Horner refused to leave by his choice.
And fwiw always liked the guy, I like that he annoys people, especially Toto because he has no sense of humour, F1 is too sterile and corporate without people willing to fight their corner, he was the Neil Warnock of F1, you hated him, but you'd always have him on your team because he'd defend you, he's never blamed anyone on his team for mistakes they've made or chucked them under the bus to protect his own skin.
Plenty of F1 bosses & drivers thesedays are only too willing to do that. |
Sorry didn't mean to down vote you, I fully agree with that analysis. Edit: Deleted it. [Post edited 9 Jul 13:39]
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 16:05 - Jul 9 with 1046 views | SouthBucksBlue |
I heard Burnley are looking for a new CEO. | | | |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 16:10 - Jul 9 with 1034 views | WeWereZombies |
Couldn't they have just asked him to sit in the corner ? |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 16:24 - Jul 9 with 1003 views | Benters |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 10:33 - Jul 9 by Samuelowen88 |
It's felt for a while that the only thing keeping him in his job was the results. And they had obviously taken a dip.
Wonder if this also means Max is off.
I dunno why, and have never met him but Horner has never come across well to me. |
Really he seems like a nice family man to me. |  |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 17:22 - Jul 9 with 930 views | catch74 |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 16:24 - Jul 9 by Benters |
Really he seems like a nice family man to me. |
So does Farage I’d imagine. | |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 05:05 - Jul 10 with 636 views | Benters |
| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 17:22 - Jul 9 by catch74 |
So does Farage I’d imagine. |
Definitely I’d happily have a pint or two with either of them in my local Spoons.
TGM/NA. | |
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| Horner sacked by Red Bull on 08:36 - Jul 10 with 500 views | DBaldy |
18 months too late if you ask me. He was only cleared of those allegations by two "internal" investigations and anyone who saw the leaked messages could see what he'd said and done.
But Horner is the ultimate bad loser.
Pretty much every F1 fan used to have a soft spot for the Red Bull team, even after Vettel's 4 consecutive championships, but after the rule change in 2014 which led to Mercedes taking over as the dominant team, he couldn't take it and over the last 10 years has turned into an egotistical piece of expletive who never takes responsibility for his actions as he thinks he's above the law.
You only need to look at how many senior people have left the team in the last 18 months to get an indication of what he's like to work with.
And more recently, as the Red Bull car is clearly struggling, he simply tries to throw as much mud as he can at McLaren & the other top teams, accusing them of cheating just cos he isn't winning every race any more.
An odious human being. Good effing riddance. | | | |
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