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Do fans actually know the rule? I’m not just talking about bias from Brum either, even some experts seems to be saying it should not have been awarded.
Very much suspect that VAR would have stopped the game and awarded it in the PL if not seen live. You can use your arms to jump but can’t have your hand up like that, as soon as Greaves wins the header and it hits his hand that’s above any other part of his body it’s a penalty. Had a rather interesting game did the ref but a decent spot there and didn’t bottle it.
The first big call was more a debate on the disallowed goal but jumped into the defender with both feet off the ground. As most will know on here I’m fairly quick to point out some of our fans bias or annoyance at officiating but he’s gets both those correct for me last night.
Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 09:29 - Aug 10 by olimar
Four players all jumped for the ball at the same time. I get the argument that players need to use their arms to jump, but all of the other three already had their arms back down and Greaves had already won the header. Yet Dykes was the only one with an arm still above his head, facing the ball too. Hard to judge if he did it deliberately, but it was definitely a poorly executed jump if being kind and at the very least, more likely that he realised he wasn't close to the ball so just tried to get as much as he could in Greaves way. i think they are trying to take interpretation out of these decisions, which means we get some really unfair decisions when it's clearly accidental, but in this case it is definitely much closer to a deliberate attempt anyway so, either way, it's a pen.
Some people jumping, recently.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 10:13 - Aug 10 with 164 views
well clearly not as it seems to have provoked so much debate, VAR would have given it without question, soft maybe, but those are the rules.
but even the Eadts other reporter Mark Heath was stating it was never a penalty and coming out with such nonsense like he didnt want to live in a world where that was a "penner"... when corrected.
and thats his job to write about football and he doesnt know the rules.
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Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 11:04 - Aug 10 with 100 views
Why is there such a debate about the penalty decision? on 09:29 - Aug 10 by olimar
Four players all jumped for the ball at the same time. I get the argument that players need to use their arms to jump, but all of the other three already had their arms back down and Greaves had already won the header. Yet Dykes was the only one with an arm still above his head, facing the ball too. Hard to judge if he did it deliberately, but it was definitely a poorly executed jump if being kind and at the very least, more likely that he realised he wasn't close to the ball so just tried to get as much as he could in Greaves way. i think they are trying to take interpretation out of these decisions, which means we get some really unfair decisions when it's clearly accidental, but in this case it is definitely much closer to a deliberate attempt anyway so, either way, it's a pen.
I have long campaigned about getting the word 'intentional' out of the rules. Then it just becomes did it hit his hand or not. If it hits then it's an infringement if it doesn't carry on. As Hirst said "handball is handball".