So here we go! on 07:30 - Sep 10 with 1004 views | tonybied | My Polish partner has gone to work terrified this morning. Almost as terrified as she was when the war first started and when a projectile landed across their border a couple of years ago. Her family live fairly deep in the south east of the country, not too far from the Ukrainian border, so you can probably understand her worry. Putin can f#ck right off! |  | |  |
So here we go! on 07:42 - Sep 10 with 936 views | giant_stow | Hard to believe really. Feels like the Russians are almost goading Trump. |  |
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So here we go! on 07:49 - Sep 10 with 886 views | bluejacko |
So here we go! on 07:42 - Sep 10 by giant_stow | Hard to believe really. Feels like the Russians are almost goading Trump. |
They are! It’s so stupid for Pootin though Poland is the fastest rearming country in Europe! IF the poles were to get involved through NATO or off their own back they have very big and capable forces for the orcs to contend with. |  | |  |
So here we go! on 07:55 - Sep 10 with 857 views | BloomBlue | He feels empowered after visiting that China miltary parade last week. He sees China is now capable of giving America a very bloody nose, well they will be soon if they continue building their miltary at this rate. I genuinely think he believes China will stand with him if NATO gets involved, and that will scare NATO to turn away from conflict. |  | |  |
So here we go! on 07:57 - Sep 10 with 845 views | Bluemike31 | World war Three started when they invaded Ukraine, it's just a slow burner until it really gets going. |  | |  |
So here we go! on 09:25 - Sep 10 with 569 views | Guthrum |
So here we go! on 07:49 - Sep 10 by bluejacko | They are! It’s so stupid for Pootin though Poland is the fastest rearming country in Europe! IF the poles were to get involved through NATO or off their own back they have very big and capable forces for the orcs to contend with. |
The Russians don't want the Poles to get involved now. This is accidental-on-purpose testing of resolution and who will back whom. A gentle pushing of the envelope. This is a slightly tricky time for Poland, with a new President, Karol Nowrocki, who is a friend of Trump and from the political opponents of Prime Minister Donald Tusk. There has been quite a lot of bitterness in recent elections, so it could have been a moment of fragility, ripe for stirring up some instability in the nation. From what I've read, doubt it will work. Nowrocki and Tusk may differ on many things, but not that much over Russia. |  |
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So here we go! on 09:33 - Sep 10 with 495 views | itfc_bucks |
So here we go! on 07:57 - Sep 10 by Bluemike31 | World war Three started when they invaded Ukraine, it's just a slow burner until it really gets going. |
I'm genuinely concerned you may be right. We'll know for sure when China goes for Taiwan. |  | |  |
So here we go! on 09:35 - Sep 10 with 494 views | Bluemike31 |
So here we go! on 09:33 - Sep 10 by itfc_bucks | I'm genuinely concerned you may be right. We'll know for sure when China goes for Taiwan. |
As scary as the thought is I believe it is a real possibility. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
So here we go! on 09:40 - Sep 10 with 466 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
So here we go! on 07:57 - Sep 10 by Bluemike31 | World war Three started when they invaded Ukraine, it's just a slow burner until it really gets going. |
The resource wars started way before that, Kuwait/Iraq perhaps. |  |
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So here we go! on 09:51 - Sep 10 with 410 views | bsw72 |
So here we go! on 07:57 - Sep 10 by Bluemike31 | World war Three started when they invaded Ukraine, it's just a slow burner until it really gets going. |
Well, you could, but are you referring to 2022 invasion or the annexing of Crimea in 2014, then consider the invasion of Georgia in 2008, or the first Chechen wars in 1994 and 1999-2009, or the Transnistria War in 1990 (Russia has had troops illegally based in East Moldova since 1992). The Russian Federation has been invading and stationing troops / controlling puppet governments since the public demise of the Soviet Union in 1991 - the name may have changed by the military approach didn't, it was just more insular. The West has let them do this unabated until 2022 . . . well, the Western Gvmts have voiced their displeasure but not acted. The fact Ukraine has become such a mainstream issue is that it has involved a country much further West than previous, and one that had a more direct impact on the West due to food / energy supply impact. [Post edited 10 Sep 9:51]
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So here we go! on 09:56 - Sep 10 with 385 views | Guthrum |
So here we go! on 09:40 - Sep 10 by BanksterDebtSlave | The resource wars started way before that, Kuwait/Iraq perhaps. |
Three things have almost always been responsible for wars throughout history: Resources, offence/injured pride and revenge. The Roman Empire collapsed largely because of infighting over who controlled its wealth, compounded by resource-hungry invaders from outside. |  |
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So here we go! on 10:01 - Sep 10 with 363 views | bluejacko |
So here we go! on 09:25 - Sep 10 by Guthrum | The Russians don't want the Poles to get involved now. This is accidental-on-purpose testing of resolution and who will back whom. A gentle pushing of the envelope. This is a slightly tricky time for Poland, with a new President, Karol Nowrocki, who is a friend of Trump and from the political opponents of Prime Minister Donald Tusk. There has been quite a lot of bitterness in recent elections, so it could have been a moment of fragility, ripe for stirring up some instability in the nation. From what I've read, doubt it will work. Nowrocki and Tusk may differ on many things, but not that much over Russia. |
You’re probably right, but it will only take one of those drones to fall on a Polish head and all bets will be off!same as the GPS jamming coming out of Kalingrad ,one airliner going into another or dodgy landing and again the poo will hit the fan! [Post edited 10 Sep 10:06]
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So here we go! on 10:08 - Sep 10 with 330 views | Guthrum |
So here we go! on 10:01 - Sep 10 by bluejacko | You’re probably right, but it will only take one of those drones to fall on a Polish head and all bets will be off!same as the GPS jamming coming out of Kalingrad ,one airliner going into another or dodgy landing and again the poo will hit the fan! [Post edited 10 Sep 10:06]
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Indeed, it's a risky game of brinkmanship. The protagonists are not entirely sure how far things can go - and accidents do happen. |  |
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So here we go! on 10:19 - Sep 10 with 248 views | TIB |
So here we go! on 10:01 - Sep 10 by bluejacko | You’re probably right, but it will only take one of those drones to fall on a Polish head and all bets will be off!same as the GPS jamming coming out of Kalingrad ,one airliner going into another or dodgy landing and again the poo will hit the fan! [Post edited 10 Sep 10:06]
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Not much happened when Putin shot down that commercial Malaysian flight years back…or the Azerbaijan flight last year. People will die, it’ll be forgotten and our illustrious bell*ends of leaders will continue their d**k measuring contest with us as collateral. Happy hump day. |  |
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So here we go! on 10:25 - Sep 10 with 214 views | Mookamoo |
So here we go! on 07:30 - Sep 10 by tonybied | My Polish partner has gone to work terrified this morning. Almost as terrified as she was when the war first started and when a projectile landed across their border a couple of years ago. Her family live fairly deep in the south east of the country, not too far from the Ukrainian border, so you can probably understand her worry. Putin can f#ck right off! |
I don't think fully appreciate how they feel over in Poland. I was there when they rolled into the Crimea and the shock of the locals took me a bit by surprise. As far as they are concerned, once they start coming, they keep coming. |  | |  |
So here we go! on 10:49 - Sep 10 with 89 views | Guthrum |
They vary greatly, from the kind of thing you do see in Curry's (small front-line observation drones) up to quite large aircraft (such as the Reaper, or some stand-off munitions). Obviously, it depends how much technology needs to be carried and what range/loiter time is required. With explosive devices, enough needs to be carried to make it worthwhile. Stealth and observability are other issues. The smaller something is, the harder to spot, either visually or on radar. If a drone is shot down (or goes wrong), it's going to fall somewhere and even the wreckage can cause damage. A lot of the reports of destruction coming out of Ukraine are those which have been intercepted or simply missed their targets*. The ones which hit are, obviously, not revealed, as that would help with future aiming. * Or, additionally, anti-aircraft fire, which has to land somewhere after being sent into the sky. |  |
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So here we go! on 10:53 - Sep 10 with 61 views | Bluemike31 |
So here we go! on 09:51 - Sep 10 by bsw72 | Well, you could, but are you referring to 2022 invasion or the annexing of Crimea in 2014, then consider the invasion of Georgia in 2008, or the first Chechen wars in 1994 and 1999-2009, or the Transnistria War in 1990 (Russia has had troops illegally based in East Moldova since 1992). The Russian Federation has been invading and stationing troops / controlling puppet governments since the public demise of the Soviet Union in 1991 - the name may have changed by the military approach didn't, it was just more insular. The West has let them do this unabated until 2022 . . . well, the Western Gvmts have voiced their displeasure but not acted. The fact Ukraine has become such a mainstream issue is that it has involved a country much further West than previous, and one that had a more direct impact on the West due to food / energy supply impact. [Post edited 10 Sep 9:51]
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Yep all very true, I was meaning the 2022 invasion under this despot we have now threatening all and sundry. |  | |  |
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