| This Unite the Kingdom march 11:51 - Sep 13 with 19451 views | noggin |
Any of you 'football lads' there? |  |
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| This Unite the Kingdom march on 05:08 - Sep 15 with 462 views | onceablue |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 08:19 - Sep 14 by noggin |
Well the majority want to stop the boats, but not because people are drowning. It's dangerous nationalism and there have been no calls for the WHITE Ukranians to be returned. Yeah but it's not racism, right? |
The majority of the Ukrainians are women and children.
They have sought Asylum whilst the men are fighting the Russians.
If the majority of people arriving in boats were women and children you would see a more sympathetic view I am sure.
As the people arriving are 87% men it screams economic migrants. |  | | |
| I very much doubt that.... on 06:31 - Sep 15 with 321 views | IPS_wich |
| I very much doubt that.... on 23:52 - Sep 14 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
It's clear that there are a depressing number of overtly racist abhorrent people who have had their bullsht normalised, and an even greater number of cowardly fckwits who legitimise and excuse the scumbags (this forum being a perfect microcosm of this).
However, whilst I completely get the sentiment in your final para, I have to believe that there are enough decent people to ensure it can't be this way forever. It just can't. |
Can I provide you a little reassurance on your last paragraph - noting that this comes from an Australian perspective.
Currently all federal and state governments in Australia - with the exception of Tasmania - are currently run by the Australian Labor party - which is the centre left party. This is largely because we have compulsory voting at all elections and the main opposition (the Coalition Liberal National Party) have started to move further to the right in the last 4-5 years.
The impact of compulsory voting is that the silent majority have to vote, they can't abstain - and when push comes to shove, they voted for the Labor Party in a landslide at the recent federal election. Given the choice between voting back in an underwhelming left of centre party with a decent but vanilla leader over a Murdoch backed Trump-lite former policeman as leader of a party embracing division, climate change denial and modest anti-immigration rhetoric - the population at large voted for the non-racist path.
I have to believe that the majority of the UK population are watching the march yesterday shaking their head and turning off their TV in dismay. | | | |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 07:35 - Sep 15 with 197 views | noggin |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 05:08 - Sep 15 by onceablue |
The majority of the Ukrainians are women and children.
They have sought Asylum whilst the men are fighting the Russians.
If the majority of people arriving in boats were women and children you would see a more sympathetic view I am sure.
As the people arriving are 87% men it screams economic migrants. |
Statists say the majority of them are genuine refugees.
You know why the majority are young men. There are no legal routes meaning a long and dangerous journey across oceans and borders. There are no flights put on to transport women and children to safety, like there is from Ukraine.
Until their applications are heard, they are legally in the UK, according to the asylum laws Britain signed up to. [Post edited 15 Sep 7:45]
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| This Unite the Kingdom march on 08:03 - Sep 15 with 107 views | vapour_trail |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 07:35 - Sep 15 by noggin |
Statists say the majority of them are genuine refugees.
You know why the majority are young men. There are no legal routes meaning a long and dangerous journey across oceans and borders. There are no flights put on to transport women and children to safety, like there is from Ukraine.
Until their applications are heard, they are legally in the UK, according to the asylum laws Britain signed up to. [Post edited 15 Sep 7:45]
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If once a blue was in genuine distress, it appears he would send his granny and his kids on the dangerous path to seek asylum for the family, rather than get on the road himself.
What a strange bloke. |  |
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| This Unite the Kingdom march on 08:05 - Sep 15 with 96 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 05:08 - Sep 15 by onceablue |
The majority of the Ukrainians are women and children.
They have sought Asylum whilst the men are fighting the Russians.
If the majority of people arriving in boats were women and children you would see a more sympathetic view I am sure.
As the people arriving are 87% men it screams economic migrants. |
59% of asylum applications were from adult men in the last year ( https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-endi although yes they are the majority. Commonly reported to be because they make the journey rather than send their wives/partners/kids.
I don’t believe for a minute that there’d be more tolerance if the figures were reversed and mainly women. We’ve had protests outside hotels used to temporarily house women and children. Most of the anti-asylum sentiment is driven by Islamophobia. |  |
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| This Unite the Kingdom march on 08:20 - Sep 15 with 46 views | Herbivore |
| This Unite the Kingdom march on 05:08 - Sep 15 by onceablue |
The majority of the Ukrainians are women and children.
They have sought Asylum whilst the men are fighting the Russians.
If the majority of people arriving in boats were women and children you would see a more sympathetic view I am sure.
As the people arriving are 87% men it screams economic migrants. |
If you were living in a country thousands of miles away and you're facing persecution or death, would you send your granny and your 12 year old daughter to make the dangerous journey alone? If you would then fair enough, but I think most people wouldn't as they'd probably not make it, or if they did they'd be so scarred from the experience they wouldn't be the same people you sent off on that journey.
The Ukraine comparison doesn't work, we opened up a scheme specifically for Ukrainians that made it easy and safe for them to come here. If we did the same for other countries, we wouldn't be getting anything like the same number of small boat crossings. People risk their lives doing that because they have no other way of coming into the country and making an asylum claim. Anyone wanting to stop the boats should be supporting the establishment of safe, legal routes for asylum seekers. They shouldn't be supporting Farage and his empty rhetoric. |  |
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| I very much doubt that.... on 08:21 - Sep 15 with 45 views | noggin |
| I very much doubt that.... on 00:03 - Sep 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It's as clear as day Swailsey, to anyone that wants to see it, that the public are being played by those that want to preserve and increase their wealth by being encouraged to kick at those even further down the food chain than themselves. Musk, Trump, Farage the defenders of the common man along with their social media influencer grafter lieutenants are playing a blinder and the ignorant are so willing to believe their lazy narratives while being mugged.
Believe me, I have been in that place you allude to in your last paragraph and made some stupid choices while trying to hide from the world you describe. Sometimes it makes sense for your Self preservation to make your World smaller, find beauty where you can, be with compassionate, empathic caring people, get into nature and leave the fools to their madness as best you can.
Be good to yourself Swailsey and to those around you and leave the haters to their hate. |
"It's as clear as day Swailsey, to anyone that wants to see it, that the public are being played by those that want to preserve and increase their wealth by being encouraged to kick at those even further down the food chain than themselves."
This is exactly what's happening.
Immigrants are not forcing property prices up, so that our children will never afford to buy a home.
Immigrants are not monopolising the sale of consumer goods and services, then transferring profits out of the country, without paying taxes.
Immigrants are not cutting funding for public services.
Immigrants are not the employers that are offering low salaries and below inflation wage rises, meaning workers have to claim benefits, in order to afford to live.
Immigrants didn't sell of the stock of council housing, then fail to replace them with new affordable housing stock.
All of these are why people are struggling to house and feed their families. So why aren't we protesting outside establishments owned by Amazon, Tesla, Google and Starbucks? Why aren't we protesting outside parliament, demanding the government stop, then reverse, this huge transfer of wealth? | |
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