| Anyone you know? on 20:09 - Sep 16 with 414 views | eireblue |
| Anyone you know? on 19:58 - Sep 16 by lowhouseblue |
3 million is net immigration over the most recent 4 year period.
in addition, total uk population:
66.7 million in 2020
69.2 million in 2024
so after net migration of 3 million, the total population rose by 2.5 million
i don't know why you'd be relying on projections from the 2021 census for data after that date when real data is published annually. |
So you haven’t taken births and deaths into consideration.
That number is relatively consistent.
Population growth over last 10 years has been about 3 million.
Why are you pandering to Farage at Al, and exaggerating the population growth.
Those are ONS stats, which include immigration, take it up with them if you don’t like how they do it.
Mid-year population estimates relate to the usually resident population. They account for long-term international migrants (people who change their country of usual residence for a period of 12 months or more) but do not account for short-term migrants (people who come to or leave the country for a period of less than 12 months). This approach is consistent with the standard UN definition for population estimates which is based upon the concept of usual residence and includes people who reside, or intend to reside, in the country for at least twelve months, whatever their nationality.
If you want to know how to fit people into houses, and estimate the load on government services it is population growth that is important.
That number is less than Net migration which you keep using as an alarmist number.
Another article if people are interested: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68139947 [Post edited 16 Sep 20:38]
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| Anyone you know? on 20:51 - Sep 16 with 300 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Anyone you know? on 19:20 - Sep 16 by lowhouseblue |
yes, the arrival of immigrants isn't spread evenly across the country. but, if, say, 100,000 additional people had arrived in suffolk coastal over a short period don't you think it would have made those problems worse?
aren't you supposed to be on holiday. shouldn't you be drinking guiness rather than wasting time on here? |
So you accept we have these problems regardless of any external pressures and yet still can't accept you are wrong. Stop excusing racists and xenophobes and face up to the problem being the economic system to which you are in hoc!
Nope not on holiday, just living life with friends in Ireland for a bit. The Murphies is fine thanks. |  |
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| Anyone you know? on 20:56 - Sep 16 with 266 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Anyone you know? on 19:46 - Sep 16 by blueasfook |
Im pretty sure calling out other posters is one of the things Phil is fed up of. |
Best not to be a xenophobe then, hope that helps...seems your main concern now is trying to get me banned. | |
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| Anyone you know? on 21:25 - Sep 16 with 185 views | Swailsey |
| Anyone you know? on 20:51 - Sep 16 by BanksterDebtSlave |
So you accept we have these problems regardless of any external pressures and yet still can't accept you are wrong. Stop excusing racists and xenophobes and face up to the problem being the economic system to which you are in hoc!
Nope not on holiday, just living life with friends in Ireland for a bit. The Murphies is fine thanks. |
Amazing that he’s still at it despite the warnings. Just antagonising for the sake of it. [Post edited 16 Sep 21:25]
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| Anyone you know? on 21:54 - Sep 16 with 106 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Anyone you know? on 17:58 - Sep 16 by lowhouseblue |
something i have posted several times but i have never received an answer is, given that we have had a housing crisis for the past decade plus, how over the most recent four year period have we accommodated an additional (NET) 3 million people through immigration? how has that been possible without making the housing crisis worse? and if that is possible and we can magically house an additional 3 million people without any negatives, then in what sense is there a housing crisis? really?
in addition, in a great many local authority areas a majority of social housing tenants are now foreign nationals. in many areas it's as much as two thirds.
do you not see that not being able to, or their children not being able to, get access to local social housing, and being priced out of other options, while seeing a high proportion of social housing occupied by foreign nationals, genuinely concerns a great many people. they haven't fallen for rhetoric, they aren't relying on daily mail headlines - it's what they can see. [Post edited 16 Sep 18:00]
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Despite several attempts, you didn't bother answering my question in the other thread (where I showed you'd completely got the wrong end of the stick and accused me of something that didn't happen). So I'm going to ignore all yours too. |  |
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| Anyone you know? on 22:52 - Sep 16 with 3 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anyone you know? on 20:09 - Sep 16 by eireblue |
So you haven’t taken births and deaths into consideration.
That number is relatively consistent.
Population growth over last 10 years has been about 3 million.
Why are you pandering to Farage at Al, and exaggerating the population growth.
Those are ONS stats, which include immigration, take it up with them if you don’t like how they do it.
Mid-year population estimates relate to the usually resident population. They account for long-term international migrants (people who change their country of usual residence for a period of 12 months or more) but do not account for short-term migrants (people who come to or leave the country for a period of less than 12 months). This approach is consistent with the standard UN definition for population estimates which is based upon the concept of usual residence and includes people who reside, or intend to reside, in the country for at least twelve months, whatever their nationality.
If you want to know how to fit people into houses, and estimate the load on government services it is population growth that is important.
That number is less than Net migration which you keep using as an alarmist number.
Another article if people are interested: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68139947 [Post edited 16 Sep 20:38]
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jeez. why are you trying to distort this. from the ons population estimates for england and wales published 30th july 2025:
change in population (ie annual increases) of england and wales:
2021 230,080
2022 618,067
2023 821,210
2024 706,881
that's a cumulative increase of some 2.37 million over the four years. obviously it excludes scotland which is why the 2.5 million i quoted earlier is higher. in that period total net migration was some 3 million.
so were it not for net immigration total population would have fallen slightly (births and deaths and i guess covid), but instead it rose by 2.5 million if scotland is included. that's a substantial rise in population entirely accounted for by net migration.
quoting ons statistics is not pandering to anyone - trying to misrepresent the picture and pretending that a country can have net migration of 3 million without total population rising is frankly bizarre.
the article you have linked also includes the ons population projection for the next 10 years. it is:
0.5 million more births than deaths (approx 50,000 a year)
6.1 million net immigration (approx 600,000 a year)
6.6 million increase in total population (approx 650,000 a year).
this is the exact same pattern that the statistics show for the past 4 years. so even the article you've linked shows substantial total population growth which is almost entirely explained by net immigration.
what a strange thing to try to dispute. |  |
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