| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. 20:53 - Sep 25 with 1387 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/sep/25/cybercriminals-steal-pictures
'The names, pictures and addresses of about 8,000 children have reportedly been stolen from the Kido nursery chain by a gang of cybercriminals.
The criminals have demanded a ransom from the company – which has 18 sites around London, with more in the US, India and China – according to the BBC.
The hackers have claimed they also possess information about the children’s parents and carers, as well as safeguarding notes, and have contacted some by phone as part of their extortion tactics.' |  |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 20:56 - Sep 25 with 1165 views | DJR |
Things were much simpler in those days.
I bought a dehumidifier today and it came with the option of using an app to operate it.
What the hell is that all about? And what's wrong with just using the on/off button? [Post edited 25 Sep 20:58]
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 20:58 - Sep 25 with 1135 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 20:56 - Sep 25 by DJR |
Things were much simpler in those days.
I bought a dehumidifier today and it came with the option of using an app to operate it.
What the hell is that all about? And what's wrong with just using the on/off button? [Post edited 25 Sep 20:58]
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Modern life is rubbish. | |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:05 - Sep 25 with 1018 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 20:56 - Sep 25 by DJR |
Things were much simpler in those days.
I bought a dehumidifier today and it came with the option of using an app to operate it.
What the hell is that all about? And what's wrong with just using the on/off button? [Post edited 25 Sep 20:58]
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Apparently our new washing machine can be controlled by an app. They must be clever apps if they can sort washing, load it, add detergent, take out washing and hang on the line.
It’s pointless tech for tech’s sake as far as I can see. |  |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:45 - Sep 25 with 955 views | Bigalhunter |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:05 - Sep 25 by Swansea_Blue |
Apparently our new washing machine can be controlled by an app. They must be clever apps if they can sort washing, load it, add detergent, take out washing and hang on the line.
It’s pointless tech for tech’s sake as far as I can see. |
We had a new central heating system put in last year.
It came with something called a ‘Hive’ app, which has subsequently proved to be a means by which my wife can control the heating remotely on her mobile device.
Spent this afternoon hedge trimming, mowing the front and rear lawns and sweating like a Norwich fan at a family reunion.
Popped in for a bottle of water and walked into a feckin sauna about 5pm.
She’d ‘hived’ the heating on as she left work, because she fancied a bath when she got home and thought the house might be a bit nippy.
This nonsense needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency… [Post edited 25 Sep 22:50]
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 00:01 - Sep 26 with 834 views | Rocky |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:05 - Sep 25 by Swansea_Blue |
Apparently our new washing machine can be controlled by an app. They must be clever apps if they can sort washing, load it, add detergent, take out washing and hang on the line.
It’s pointless tech for tech’s sake as far as I can see. |
Our great grandparents were up in arms when it was said that you could turn on a switch instead of lighting a candle. |  | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 07:54 - Sep 26 with 611 views | DJR |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:05 - Sep 25 by Swansea_Blue |
Apparently our new washing machine can be controlled by an app. They must be clever apps if they can sort washing, load it, add detergent, take out washing and hang on the line.
It’s pointless tech for tech’s sake as far as I can see. |
And probably more to go wrong. | | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:18 - Sep 26 with 570 views | BrandonsBlues |
Maybe, or maybe those companies whose IT systems are flawed and the IT companies who are not finding holes and correcting them should be held more accountable. I don't just mean fines, which only means costs are passed on to users.
There are not only high profile hacks CO-OP M&S JLR, only recently, but Talk Talk and others in the past. But also hits like this on child care companies, smaller business' are not immune, just not so news worthy. Those whose personal information is taken, what do they get?, nothing. An apology and reassurance that nothing important was taken, other than important personal information.
As discussed on other forum posts, there are people in Russia, Far East, Africa who know more about you then you know about yourself.
It is ridiculous that personal data is so freely available, and we are happy to just let it go. |  | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:21 - Sep 26 with 562 views | DJR |
I came across this.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563223001218
Published literature identifies that smart homes may pose threats to confidentiality (unwanted release of information), authentication (sensing information being falsified) and unauthorised access to system controls. Most existing studies focus on privacy intrusions as a prevalent form of harm against smart homes. Other types of harms that are less common in the literature include hacking, malware and DoS attacks. Digital harms, and data associated with these harms, may vary extensively across smart devices. Most studies propose technical measures to mitigate digital harms, while fewer consider social prevention mechanisms. We also identify salient gaps in research, and argue that these should be addressed in future crossdisciplinary research initiatives.
And this.
https://www.consumerreports.org/home-garden/smart-home/how-smart-appliances-coul
How Smart Appliances Could Expose You to Hacking Risks
Big appliances can last for years after software security updates have stopped [Post edited 26 Sep 8:22]
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:24 - Sep 26 with 555 views | farkenhell |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:45 - Sep 25 by Bigalhunter |
We had a new central heating system put in last year.
It came with something called a ‘Hive’ app, which has subsequently proved to be a means by which my wife can control the heating remotely on her mobile device.
Spent this afternoon hedge trimming, mowing the front and rear lawns and sweating like a Norwich fan at a family reunion.
Popped in for a bottle of water and walked into a feckin sauna about 5pm.
She’d ‘hived’ the heating on as she left work, because she fancied a bath when she got home and thought the house might be a bit nippy.
This nonsense needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency… [Post edited 25 Sep 22:50]
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I feel your pain. We have a similar battle with the central heating system in the Farkenhell house, although this usually involves the auto-increase thermostat control ("I didn't turn it up, it must have done it by itself"). Fortunately Mrs F hasn't yet discovered how to turn off the master switch on the fuse board! | | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:26 - Sep 26 with 550 views | bsw72 |
People are the problem.
That includes the hackers who commit these crimes and the people at the companies who do not secure their systems properly. |  | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:47 - Sep 26 with 496 views | NedPlimpton |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:45 - Sep 25 by Bigalhunter |
We had a new central heating system put in last year.
It came with something called a ‘Hive’ app, which has subsequently proved to be a means by which my wife can control the heating remotely on her mobile device.
Spent this afternoon hedge trimming, mowing the front and rear lawns and sweating like a Norwich fan at a family reunion.
Popped in for a bottle of water and walked into a feckin sauna about 5pm.
She’d ‘hived’ the heating on as she left work, because she fancied a bath when she got home and thought the house might be a bit nippy.
This nonsense needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency… [Post edited 25 Sep 22:50]
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To be fair, Hive is brilliant
But agree most other "smart building" stuff is absolute nonsense. A colleague of mine delighted in showing me on an app the route his hoover takes around the house when he's not there. Obviously it can't go upstairs so he still needs to do the hoovering himself and own a second hoover! |  | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 09:17 - Sep 26 with 445 views | OldFart71 |
Don't know how many of you saw the programme where the guy left a parcel to be collected and he had one of these doorbells with a camera which apparently tells you if someone has approached the door.
The parcel was taken, but no footage from the camera.
What was deemed to have happened was a blocker device was used which can be gotten pretty cheaply on Amazon.
I think although nothing is ever going to be 100% secure too many products come to the market not having been tested fully to see that their security is as safe as it should be and whilst we know there are people just as intelligent who hack things as there are those that design stuff it does seem in some cases all you have to do is go on Youtube and you can find out how to bypass a method of security.
I for instance bought a suitcase from Vinted with no combination for both the case lock and a separate lock, Went onto Youtube and there were a handful of videos showing how to get the combinations. | | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 09:20 - Sep 26 with 435 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:47 - Sep 26 by NedPlimpton |
To be fair, Hive is brilliant
But agree most other "smart building" stuff is absolute nonsense. A colleague of mine delighted in showing me on an app the route his hoover takes around the house when he's not there. Obviously it can't go upstairs so he still needs to do the hoovering himself and own a second hoover! |
Hive is fantastic. Got the heating set to a timer but if we are coming home in the early hours from a night out I can just put a boost on the heating 30 minutes before we get home. |  |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 09:26 - Sep 26 with 425 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:45 - Sep 25 by Bigalhunter |
We had a new central heating system put in last year.
It came with something called a ‘Hive’ app, which has subsequently proved to be a means by which my wife can control the heating remotely on her mobile device.
Spent this afternoon hedge trimming, mowing the front and rear lawns and sweating like a Norwich fan at a family reunion.
Popped in for a bottle of water and walked into a feckin sauna about 5pm.
She’d ‘hived’ the heating on as she left work, because she fancied a bath when she got home and thought the house might be a bit nippy.
This nonsense needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency… [Post edited 25 Sep 22:50]
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Ha. My better half would definitely be the same. | |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 09:35 - Sep 26 with 409 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:21 - Sep 26 by DJR |
I came across this.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563223001218
Published literature identifies that smart homes may pose threats to confidentiality (unwanted release of information), authentication (sensing information being falsified) and unauthorised access to system controls. Most existing studies focus on privacy intrusions as a prevalent form of harm against smart homes. Other types of harms that are less common in the literature include hacking, malware and DoS attacks. Digital harms, and data associated with these harms, may vary extensively across smart devices. Most studies propose technical measures to mitigate digital harms, while fewer consider social prevention mechanisms. We also identify salient gaps in research, and argue that these should be addressed in future crossdisciplinary research initiatives.
And this.
https://www.consumerreports.org/home-garden/smart-home/how-smart-appliances-coul
How Smart Appliances Could Expose You to Hacking Risks
Big appliances can last for years after software security updates have stopped [Post edited 26 Sep 8:22]
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Apparently we’re known in the UK as a particularly easy target for hackers as we tend to more often pay ransoms. The costs on us are phenomenal (they hit industries but our friendly economic model ensures those costs are passed on to us one way or another). Some of the stuff coming out about this latest nursery school hack makes my blood boil. I’d like to stick pins in these arseholes’ eyes (the hackers, not the kids!). | |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 09:42 - Sep 26 with 389 views | RonFearonsHair |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 20:56 - Sep 25 by DJR |
Things were much simpler in those days.
I bought a dehumidifier today and it came with the option of using an app to operate it.
What the hell is that all about? And what's wrong with just using the on/off button? [Post edited 25 Sep 20:58]
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More scope to build in subscription-only 'upgrades' and further microtransactions. |  | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 10:01 - Sep 26 with 349 views | DJR |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:47 - Sep 26 by NedPlimpton |
To be fair, Hive is brilliant
But agree most other "smart building" stuff is absolute nonsense. A colleague of mine delighted in showing me on an app the route his hoover takes around the house when he's not there. Obviously it can't go upstairs so he still needs to do the hoovering himself and own a second hoover! |
I suppose I can also see a case for security doorbells and the like but I am not sure if there is much else.
Having said that, such systems do seem to play into people's fears. | | | |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 11:44 - Sep 26 with 280 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 10:01 - Sep 26 by DJR |
I suppose I can also see a case for security doorbells and the like but I am not sure if there is much else.
Having said that, such systems do seem to play into people's fears. |
I have Hive lights. So when I open the front door the lights automatically come on in the hallway. The switch off after 15 minutes but I can set that to any time. Same with the landing so they come on as I walk upstairs. And the ensuite so I don't hae to fumble around in the dark looking for the switch at 4am when my prostate is playing up. Our lounge table lamps and standing lamps are on a timer.
They are also Alexa compatible so I can ask for certain lights to go on and off.
I love this stuff. It would have been science fiction when I was growing up in the 1970's so I'm embracing all this stuff. | |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 11:51 - Sep 26 with 272 views | baxterbasics |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 11:44 - Sep 26 by GlasgowBlue |
I have Hive lights. So when I open the front door the lights automatically come on in the hallway. The switch off after 15 minutes but I can set that to any time. Same with the landing so they come on as I walk upstairs. And the ensuite so I don't hae to fumble around in the dark looking for the switch at 4am when my prostate is playing up. Our lounge table lamps and standing lamps are on a timer.
They are also Alexa compatible so I can ask for certain lights to go on and off.
I love this stuff. It would have been science fiction when I was growing up in the 1970's so I'm embracing all this stuff. |
It's all the kind of thing we were seeing on Tomorrow's World in the 80's and early 90's when I was a young'un. The tech existed then but wasn't yet scalable for mass use. |  |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 11:55 - Sep 26 with 253 views | Deano69 |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 22:45 - Sep 25 by Bigalhunter |
We had a new central heating system put in last year.
It came with something called a ‘Hive’ app, which has subsequently proved to be a means by which my wife can control the heating remotely on her mobile device.
Spent this afternoon hedge trimming, mowing the front and rear lawns and sweating like a Norwich fan at a family reunion.
Popped in for a bottle of water and walked into a feckin sauna about 5pm.
She’d ‘hived’ the heating on as she left work, because she fancied a bath when she got home and thought the house might be a bit nippy.
This nonsense needs to be dealt with as a matter of urgency… [Post edited 25 Sep 22:50]
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Heating on in September? Sackable offence. |  |
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| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 11:58 - Sep 26 with 234 views | Deano69 |
| Maybe we should just go back to pen and paper. on 08:26 - Sep 26 by bsw72 |
People are the problem.
That includes the hackers who commit these crimes and the people at the companies who do not secure their systems properly. |
Sure I heard Jeremy Clarksons pub got taken for £27000 by a cyber incident | |
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