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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... 09:24 - Oct 2 with 2977 viewsArnieM

"its been 16 yrs since we've beaten them . "..Utter distortion of the the facts naturally by them.

Its NOT POSSIBLE to to win , draw or lose when you are physically not in the same division.

Town and narwich have been in the same division over the past 16 years on just FIVE occasions!


eg :
Ipswich Town and Norwich City were in the same division during the 2023-24 season, and the period from the 2019-20 season to the 2022-23 season, inclusive, making them
2019-2020, 2020-2021, 2021-2022, 2022-2023: These were the seasons Ipswich Town and Norwich City were in the same division...

We therefore did not beat them in those 5 years ... they I think, only beat us twice in that period , and we drew the remaining games. So it would be more accurate of them to claim weve not beaten them in a five years period between 2019-2024....

Its time to put that record,straight.

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:26 - Oct 2 with 2172 views_clive_baker_

They've actually only beaten us twice since 2017. Obviously twice more than we've beaten them but they properly got away with one last time we met at PR. Hopefully Sunday we can put this nonsense to bed with a win. Its literally all they've got to crow about.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:27 - Oct 2 with 2151 viewsStokieBlue

I would argue that attempting to pretend some years didn't exist is a bigger distortion.

We've not beaten them for 16 years, you can change the framing to say we haven't beaten them in N matches and both are factually correct.

Doesn't matter anyway, lets just beat them Sunday.

SB
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:35 - Oct 2 with 2106 viewsBasingstokeBlue

Indeed. It's as stupid as if we were to claim (truthfully) that Floriana F.C. hasn't beaten us since we trounced them in 1962 (63 years ago).

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:35 - Oct 2 with 2100 viewsWeWereZombies

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:26 - Oct 2 by _clive_baker_

They've actually only beaten us twice since 2017. Obviously twice more than we've beaten them but they properly got away with one last time we met at PR. Hopefully Sunday we can put this nonsense to bed with a win. Its literally all they've got to crow about.


True, and they have so little to celebrate I think it churlish to begrudge them this slight, bleak crumb of comfort. Bring it to an end on Sunday and they can still cling on to 'Sixteen years' in the same way that Republicans in the United States celebrated George W.'s 'Four More Years'...because that is still so much of the zeitgeist, isn't it ?
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:43 - Oct 2 with 2020 viewsCafe_Newman

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:35 - Oct 2 by BasingstokeBlue

Indeed. It's as stupid as if we were to claim (truthfully) that Floriana F.C. hasn't beaten us since we trounced them in 1962 (63 years ago).


Yeah but they get riled up in Malta when you mention it in the bars of Floriana, don't they?
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:44 - Oct 2 with 2010 viewsBasingstokeBlue

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:43 - Oct 2 by Cafe_Newman

Yeah but they get riled up in Malta when you mention it in the bars of Floriana, don't they?


Oh, I thought that was because one of their best players sneakily left them to sign for us!

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:56 - Oct 2 with 1917 viewsCafe_Newman

I find the claim quite quaint actually. If they recognise that we are a far superior club, the achievement is worth crowing about.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:56 - Oct 2 with 1911 viewsGlasgowBlue

We haven't beaten them in 16 years. That's a fact. In these years that we weren't in the same division as them, other than last year it is because they were one or two leagues higher.

We'll put it right on Sunday but it's pointless distorting the tats to suit your argument.

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:58 - Oct 2 with 1890 viewsnorfsufblue

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:43 - Oct 2 by Cafe_Newman

Yeah but they get riled up in Malta when you mention it in the bars of Floriana, don't they?


Actually when i passed through border control there earlier this year thestern looking officials face broke into a smile when he saw my Town hat with an affectionate " Arh Ipssweech😉"
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:59 - Oct 2 with 1872 viewsbazza

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:56 - Oct 2 by GlasgowBlue

We haven't beaten them in 16 years. That's a fact. In these years that we weren't in the same division as them, other than last year it is because they were one or two leagues higher.

We'll put it right on Sunday but it's pointless distorting the tats to suit your argument.


This.. last win 2009.. last win away 2006.. heart breaking.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:59 - Oct 2 with 1871 viewsIH_KGF

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:27 - Oct 2 by StokieBlue

I would argue that attempting to pretend some years didn't exist is a bigger distortion.

We've not beaten them for 16 years, you can change the framing to say we haven't beaten them in N matches and both are factually correct.

Doesn't matter anyway, lets just beat them Sunday.

SB


This really is nail on the head isn't it. There is no point trying to pretend that stat doesn't exist, it does, and it hurts as an Ipswich fan. I think anyone saying it doesn't is telling a little fib.

Beating them, and breaking that hold they seem to think they have over us could really send them on a downward spiral for the rest of the season.

We must beat them Sunday.

Hope you enjoy the game
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:01 - Oct 2 with 1853 viewsSmoresy

Feels like 16 years to me tbh Arnie, not helped by the barren years mostly being because we were in a division below. I can see the argument for 15 years because we "de facto" won last season (no contest because they weren't good enough to play us), but the PL campaign went too badly for us to really enjoy the sense of being a PL club.

They were superior on the pitch for a long old time; we should have formalised the return to natural order in our home game two seasons ago but we saved our least clinical performance for that day alas! Now we aren't playing quite as well, at least in the most crucial sense of chances created vs conceded, and matches won, but they've taken a further step backward since we last played them. Calm heads this time around 🤞
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:01 - Oct 2 with 1849 viewspositivity

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:56 - Oct 2 by GlasgowBlue

We haven't beaten them in 16 years. That's a fact. In these years that we weren't in the same division as them, other than last year it is because they were one or two leagues higher.

We'll put it right on Sunday but it's pointless distorting the tats to suit your argument.


yes, it's true. it's also true that we haven't been beaten by chelsea in 14 years!

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:08 - Oct 2 with 1768 viewsnorfsufblue

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:01 - Oct 2 by positivity

yes, it's true. it's also true that we haven't been beaten by chelsea in 14 years!


Or Real Madrid EVER!
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:09 - Oct 2 with 1764 viewsArnieM

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:01 - Oct 2 by Smoresy

Feels like 16 years to me tbh Arnie, not helped by the barren years mostly being because we were in a division below. I can see the argument for 15 years because we "de facto" won last season (no contest because they weren't good enough to play us), but the PL campaign went too badly for us to really enjoy the sense of being a PL club.

They were superior on the pitch for a long old time; we should have formalised the return to natural order in our home game two seasons ago but we saved our least clinical performance for that day alas! Now we aren't playing quite as well, at least in the most crucial sense of chances created vs conceded, and matches won, but they've taken a further step backward since we last played them. Calm heads this time around 🤞


Oh God , it FEELS a lot longer than 16 yrs, lol. But its simply not possible to beat , lose or draw against any team if you dont actually play them, and the actual facts are we've only been in the same division for 5 seasons in that 16 yr period. That is a a fact ... not a manipulation of them...

Fingers crossed we not only beat them Sunday , but actually smash them .

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:09 - Oct 2 with 1759 viewsHighgateBlue

I’m afraid I don’t follow any of this at all.

We last beat them in April 2009. One of the Gio dos Santos games. 3-2.

Since then, we’ve played them 14 times without winning. That includes 4 games in 2014/15, when they beat us in the playoff semi-finals.

The years when we’ve been in the same division were the following:

2010/11
2014/15
2016/17
2017/18
2018/19
2023/24
[plus this season: 2025/26]

So in the infamous 16 year period, we’ve completed 6 seasons against them, one of which contained 2 additional games against them in the playoffs. 14 games: 8 losses, 6 draws.

I don’t follow what you say about 2019/20 to 2022/23, as we weren’t in the same division at that time, whereas you seem to say we were. Why would it be more accurate to claim we’ve not beaten them in a 5 year period between 2019-2024 when we played them in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 and didn’t win on any of those occasions?

I’m pretty sure we’d be crowing just like them if the roles were reversed. 14 failures in a row is a lot. But let's beat them this weekend and shut them up.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:12 - Oct 2 with 1733 viewspositivity

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:08 - Oct 2 by norfsufblue

Or Real Madrid EVER!


just don't mention maidstone!

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:12 - Oct 2 with 1720 viewsCafe_Newman

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:01 - Oct 2 by positivity

yes, it's true. it's also true that we haven't been beaten by chelsea in 14 years!


And throughout our glorious European topping history and beyond, Maidstone have always had the last laugh against us - and probably always will.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:15 - Oct 2 with 1666 viewsmrfixit426

If we win, you know they'll change the narrative to, "you've only beaten us once in 16 years."

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:22 - Oct 2 with 1620 viewsIH_KGF

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:15 - Oct 2 by mrfixit426

If we win, you know they'll change the narrative to, "you've only beaten us once in 16 years."



desperate times call for desperate measures... so let them do as they please :)
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:27 - Oct 2 with 1566 viewsRonFearonsHair

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:12 - Oct 2 by positivity

just don't mention maidstone!


Or Cheltenham Town.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:30 - Oct 2 with 1547 viewsSmoresy

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:09 - Oct 2 by ArnieM

Oh God , it FEELS a lot longer than 16 yrs, lol. But its simply not possible to beat , lose or draw against any team if you dont actually play them, and the actual facts are we've only been in the same division for 5 seasons in that 16 yr period. That is a a fact ... not a manipulation of them...

Fingers crossed we not only beat them Sunday , but actually smash them .


See your point Arnie, it's just that the reason for it not being possible to w/l/d in 8 of those 9 years has been a pretty bad one; not convinced it serves our interests really to shine too much light on it. 😂 I'd stub a toe for a win of any description right now but smashing them would be the fitting way to end the hoodoo.
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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:31 - Oct 2 with 1539 viewsPinewoodblue

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:15 - Oct 2 by mrfixit426

If we win, you know they'll change the narrative to, "you've only beaten us once in 16 years."



There is an easy response to that

The last time you lost at Portman Road Norwich City were relegated to League one.

Bring it on.

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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:32 - Oct 2 with 1523 viewsjaykay

Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 09:56 - Oct 2 by GlasgowBlue

We haven't beaten them in 16 years. That's a fact. In these years that we weren't in the same division as them, other than last year it is because they were one or two leagues higher.

We'll put it right on Sunday but it's pointless distorting the tats to suit your argument.


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Can we please dispel this ridiculous narwich claim of ... on 10:33 - Oct 2 with 1519 viewsEuanTown

Remember we have been unbeaten at home in Europe for what 50 years
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