| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. 12:11 - Oct 20 with 3212 views | WeWereZombies |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0ypx859x8o
'in her remarks at a key international economic committee at the International Monetary Fund...the chancellor told the world's leading finance ministers and central bankers: "The UK's productivity challenge has been compounded by the way in which the UK left the European Union."
She quoted the Office for Budget Responsibility's calculation of a 4% long-term hit relative to remaining in the EU, and said the UK "acknowledges this" in seeking stronger trade ties. The issue is sensitive right now with government deciding on negotiating positions for the Brexit "reset" including scrapping most post-Brexit checks on food and farm trade, and helping UK manufacturers join consortia to bid for Europe's surging defence budgets.' [Post edited 20 Oct 12:12]
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:15 - Oct 20 with 1902 views | J2BLUE |
They should have asked why she is serving in a government who are not planning to offer people a chance to reconsider if she knows who figures are accurate. Then when she says will of the people etc they should reply that polls show most people would support rejoining and if it's really a 4% hit shouldn't people have another chance?
I want to see journalists hold politicians' feet to the fire. I am sick of them getting away with non answers and then the journalist moves on. Get them on for 30 mins and just repeat the question over and over until they either answer it or get up and walk away. |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 with 1856 views | OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |  | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:35 - Oct 20 with 1804 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I think given the lethargic growth figures (both actual and projected) from France and Germany suggest we wouldn’t be posting much better numbers in the EU. However, where we are feeling more meaningful impact from Brexit is inflation (which in itself is a drag on growth), particularly on food prices. The IMF has reforcast the UK having the highest inflation in the G7. Rejoining the single market should be on the table rather than controversial full membership.
As an aside the latest growth figures trumpeted by Reeves once again represent a per capita contraction (gross GDP numbers are a really pointless metric). [Post edited 20 Oct 13:34]
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:40 - Oct 20 with 1775 views | BlueBadger |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |
We've found them lads. The one person left in the UK who thinks Brexit is still a good idea. |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:42 - Oct 20 with 1771 views | MrPotatoHead |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:15 - Oct 20 by J2BLUE |
They should have asked why she is serving in a government who are not planning to offer people a chance to reconsider if she knows who figures are accurate. Then when she says will of the people etc they should reply that polls show most people would support rejoining and if it's really a 4% hit shouldn't people have another chance?
I want to see journalists hold politicians' feet to the fire. I am sick of them getting away with non answers and then the journalist moves on. Get them on for 30 mins and just repeat the question over and over until they either answer it or get up and walk away. |
Important to remember that re-joining the EU wouldn't necessarily reverse the impact of Brexit. Much of the damage is already done, the decisions businesses have made over the past 9 years, the perceived instability of the UK, the negative sentiment its driven across the Eurozone, this doesn't all get reversed. Re-joining in itself would bring a huge amount of cost and disruption with little incentive for businesses to once again untangle complex trading operations & agreements.
We can't turn the clock back unfortunately. |  | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:44 - Oct 20 with 1743 views | Herbivore |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |
Brexit failed because it was a terrible idea sold to you by snake oil salesmen, it's that simple. If you're holding on to the idea that Brexit could have been amazing if only we'd done it right, that's complete pie in the sky nonsense. |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:44 - Oct 20 with 1753 views | baxterbasics |
As someone who works in trade compliance, from my perspective the EU is busy regulating itself out of existence, which was exactly the (pro-business) argument for getting out. Brussels has an approach of seeing business as an enemy to be subdued rather than a partner to be collaborated with.
Ultimately what affects our biggest trading partner will have knock on for us, in or out of the bloc. Yes there have been costs to Brexit, but I think it's very hard to say how the alternative scenario would have played out for us come 2025/6. It's all predictions and modelling, and economics is a dismal science. |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:48 - Oct 20 with 1732 views | BlueBadger |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:44 - Oct 20 by baxterbasics |
As someone who works in trade compliance, from my perspective the EU is busy regulating itself out of existence, which was exactly the (pro-business) argument for getting out. Brussels has an approach of seeing business as an enemy to be subdued rather than a partner to be collaborated with.
Ultimately what affects our biggest trading partner will have knock on for us, in or out of the bloc. Yes there have been costs to Brexit, but I think it's very hard to say how the alternative scenario would have played out for us come 2025/6. It's all predictions and modelling, and economics is a dismal science. |
Well, for starters, we probably wouldn't have an extra £100bn black hole in the economy due to leaving the EU and the worst rates of inflation(exacerbated by not being the EU). | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:50 - Oct 20 with 1707 views | Herbivore |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:44 - Oct 20 by baxterbasics |
As someone who works in trade compliance, from my perspective the EU is busy regulating itself out of existence, which was exactly the (pro-business) argument for getting out. Brussels has an approach of seeing business as an enemy to be subdued rather than a partner to be collaborated with.
Ultimately what affects our biggest trading partner will have knock on for us, in or out of the bloc. Yes there have been costs to Brexit, but I think it's very hard to say how the alternative scenario would have played out for us come 2025/6. It's all predictions and modelling, and economics is a dismal science. |
Hard to argue that Brussels aren't right with that outlook (although I think it's a daft characterisation). | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:51 - Oct 20 with 1695 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:42 - Oct 20 by MrPotatoHead |
Important to remember that re-joining the EU wouldn't necessarily reverse the impact of Brexit. Much of the damage is already done, the decisions businesses have made over the past 9 years, the perceived instability of the UK, the negative sentiment its driven across the Eurozone, this doesn't all get reversed. Re-joining in itself would bring a huge amount of cost and disruption with little incentive for businesses to once again untangle complex trading operations & agreements.
We can't turn the clock back unfortunately. |
Agreed, we cannot rejoin on the terms we had before (unless there is some cataclysmic global shift in economies where we come out smelling of roses and everyone smells like the bottom of a budgie cage...) so the tiny steps suggested by the Chancellor in the BBC report are maybe the best we can hope for. In the meantime, why aren't we strengthening our economic links with the Commonwealth nations that could hold much of the strength in a World that needs alternatives to Russia, the United States and China ? Weirdly, when catching up with Nick Robinson's politics but not politics interviews, I have found myslef appreciating what James Cleverly (Sierra Leone parents) and Kemi Badenoch (Nigerian parents) have to say. In the middle of my protracted and perhaps ill advised rant about gambling yesterday (sorry J2 and Rommy, I appreciate you both too) I watched Stephen Sackur's pre-US elections interview with John Bolton and found myself agreeing with half of what he said too.
What a time to be alive... | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:03 - Oct 20 with 1636 views | J2BLUE |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:51 - Oct 20 by WeWereZombies |
Agreed, we cannot rejoin on the terms we had before (unless there is some cataclysmic global shift in economies where we come out smelling of roses and everyone smells like the bottom of a budgie cage...) so the tiny steps suggested by the Chancellor in the BBC report are maybe the best we can hope for. In the meantime, why aren't we strengthening our economic links with the Commonwealth nations that could hold much of the strength in a World that needs alternatives to Russia, the United States and China ? Weirdly, when catching up with Nick Robinson's politics but not politics interviews, I have found myslef appreciating what James Cleverly (Sierra Leone parents) and Kemi Badenoch (Nigerian parents) have to say. In the middle of my protracted and perhaps ill advised rant about gambling yesterday (sorry J2 and Rommy, I appreciate you both too) I watched Stephen Sackur's pre-US elections interview with John Bolton and found myself agreeing with half of what he said too.
What a time to be alive... |
No apology necessary. When something hurts people you love you want to fight it. Perfectly understandable.
On paper we cannot rejoin on the same terms but I do wonder if the EU would put practicality above all else now with Russia being a menace. We are stronger together and as much as some people (not you) talk the UK down we are still a powerful country with plenty to bring to the party.
Of course it's very unlikely while Trump is in the white house and every day that passes makes it a bit harder for all parties. Also, maybe Orban would veto it under pressure from both Putin and Trump. Putin would obviously push back against it and Trump would think nothing of briefing against an ally. | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:03 - Oct 20 with 1635 views | Blueschev |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |
Can you name the things that should have happened to make it a success that didn't happen? I've heard that sentiment before but never with any examples. |  | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:07 - Oct 20 with 1592 views | Blueschev |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:42 - Oct 20 by MrPotatoHead |
Important to remember that re-joining the EU wouldn't necessarily reverse the impact of Brexit. Much of the damage is already done, the decisions businesses have made over the past 9 years, the perceived instability of the UK, the negative sentiment its driven across the Eurozone, this doesn't all get reversed. Re-joining in itself would bring a huge amount of cost and disruption with little incentive for businesses to once again untangle complex trading operations & agreements.
We can't turn the clock back unfortunately. |
The political atmosphere in this country is already volatile, a re-run of the Brexit campaign would almost certainly see things go fully toxic. | | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:08 - Oct 20 with 1585 views | Edmundo |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:44 - Oct 20 by baxterbasics |
As someone who works in trade compliance, from my perspective the EU is busy regulating itself out of existence, which was exactly the (pro-business) argument for getting out. Brussels has an approach of seeing business as an enemy to be subdued rather than a partner to be collaborated with.
Ultimately what affects our biggest trading partner will have knock on for us, in or out of the bloc. Yes there have been costs to Brexit, but I think it's very hard to say how the alternative scenario would have played out for us come 2025/6. It's all predictions and modelling, and economics is a dismal science. |
Serious question then: do you think Brexit or Covid did the most damage to cause the current state? If you had to give a percentage share of the "blame", would it be 50-50 or more like 20-80? |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:11 - Oct 20 with 1576 views | Kievthegreat |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:42 - Oct 20 by MrPotatoHead |
Important to remember that re-joining the EU wouldn't necessarily reverse the impact of Brexit. Much of the damage is already done, the decisions businesses have made over the past 9 years, the perceived instability of the UK, the negative sentiment its driven across the Eurozone, this doesn't all get reversed. Re-joining in itself would bring a huge amount of cost and disruption with little incentive for businesses to once again untangle complex trading operations & agreements.
We can't turn the clock back unfortunately. |
It's true that not every can be undone. However there's still plenty of positives to rejoining (or at least joining the customs union. For British businesses selling goods to the EU, it will do all the expected things like make exporting to our biggest market easier and cheaper. Plus, even if you can only claw back a fraction of that amount, you'd still create a better environment for growth. It's suboptimal as viewed from 2016, but the best path as of 2025.
Biggest hurdle to get people wanting to rejoin (most polls show only regret at 2016, not wanting to necessarily reverse it) is that it might mean adopting the Euro (or a commitment to do so). Would be ironic if the Brexiteer's lasting impact on the UK was the adoption of the Euro. |  | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:17 - Oct 20 with 1526 views | Kievthegreat |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:08 - Oct 20 by Edmundo |
Serious question then: do you think Brexit or Covid did the most damage to cause the current state? If you had to give a percentage share of the "blame", would it be 50-50 or more like 20-80? |
I'd go 70-30 to Brexit, but that's not stationary. COVID-19 created big piles of debt and made the government finances massively constrained. Mostly because those 2-3 chaotic years had massive spending to prevent systemic failures. Brexit meanwhile harmed the recovery from COVID and will continue to act as a handbrake on the UK economy for the foreseeable. The fiscal shock of COVID will fade (just like 2008 and other crashes), but the decision to make the UK less productive is a compounding factor. | | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:19 - Oct 20 with 1517 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:11 - Oct 20 by Kievthegreat |
It's true that not every can be undone. However there's still plenty of positives to rejoining (or at least joining the customs union. For British businesses selling goods to the EU, it will do all the expected things like make exporting to our biggest market easier and cheaper. Plus, even if you can only claw back a fraction of that amount, you'd still create a better environment for growth. It's suboptimal as viewed from 2016, but the best path as of 2025.
Biggest hurdle to get people wanting to rejoin (most polls show only regret at 2016, not wanting to necessarily reverse it) is that it might mean adopting the Euro (or a commitment to do so). Would be ironic if the Brexiteer's lasting impact on the UK was the adoption of the Euro. |
We could have the Euro as a shadow currency alongside Sterling but going back in with the condition of replacing Sterling would also mean giving up our national reserves and that would be mad. One of the few good things that Thatcher did was to get a decent set of opt outs negotiated...and then Farage gets them pissed away...the chump. | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:28 - Oct 20 with 1458 views | baxterbasics |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:08 - Oct 20 by Edmundo |
Serious question then: do you think Brexit or Covid did the most damage to cause the current state? If you had to give a percentage share of the "blame", would it be 50-50 or more like 20-80? |
I'm definitely of the opinion that Covid has done far more damage. Or at least, the government response to it.
Massive blow to public finances. Lasting damage to global supply chains (=inflation, business insolvency), workplace productivity, mental health repercussions and employment prospects - particularly in younger people. The spike in mistrust of government/international institutions. Am sure there is more that could be added. | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:31 - Oct 20 with 1434 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:19 - Oct 20 by WeWereZombies |
We could have the Euro as a shadow currency alongside Sterling but going back in with the condition of replacing Sterling would also mean giving up our national reserves and that would be mad. One of the few good things that Thatcher did was to get a decent set of opt outs negotiated...and then Farage gets them pissed away...the chump. |
Indeed, we had a ‘cake and eat it deal’.
Now it would be damaging for the UK to join the Euro, its biggest member (Germany) relies on a weak Euro to drive its export based economy. The UK is the complete opposite being reliant on imports means we need a strong currency position - having our monetary policy tied to completely different structural economies is not desirable. | | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:34 - Oct 20 with 1418 views | MattinLondon |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |
Ok, I’ll ask - what should’ve happened to make Brexit a success? |  | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 13:44 - Oct 20 with 1375 views | mellowblue |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:25 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
Reeves thinks an economy growing at 0.01% means we have a strong growth, Reeves said we had a £22 billion black hole when the Labour came to power, left by the Tories who had a banking collapse, a pandemic and the war in the Ukraine. Now it's between £30 and £40 billion so nearly doubled in 14 months.
Reeves said the Winter Fuel payment could be reintroduced because Labour had stabilized the economy, nothing to do with an uproar by Labours backbenchers.
Brexit hasn't worked because Cameron thought the vote would be to stay in the EU but with Boris making out that the NHS would have millions more to spend the vote went for leaving.
Because so many Tory and Labour ministers/Mp's didn't want Brexit it was doomed to relative failure because the things that should have happened to make it a success didn't happen.
Anyone who thinks we are worse off needs to look at lame duck Europe where our growth whilst abysmal is better than most of Europe. |
I broadly agree. On the Brexit point, to have a government opposed to Brexit without having done the due diligence of actually preparing the necessary groundwork for it if it got over the line was appalling mis-management. I see why Cameron scarpered as fast as his little legs let him. | | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:03 - Oct 20 with 1302 views | OldFart71 |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 12:40 - Oct 20 by BlueBadger |
We've found them lads. The one person left in the UK who thinks Brexit is still a good idea. |
I think you will find that around 54% voted to leave the EU. Nobody can positively say Brexit was bad or good. Except Reeves perhaps and she's the great oracle who worked for the BoE for 10 years. Even she doesn't know the difference between five and a half and ten.
One of the main reasons people like teflon Tony wanted to stay in the EU was because it was in his own interests. Blair never did anything that wasn't able to fill his pockets,
Now we are left with yet another Labour government who think tax and spend is the way forward whilst crippling people and companies.
Maybe you "Have found them lads" . You have your opinion and I have mine. Nothing wrong with that. Except certain factions within the UK seem to think that anyone having a different opinion to themselves has some sort of a problem. | | | |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:09 - Oct 20 with 1272 views | Herbivore |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:03 - Oct 20 by OldFart71 |
I think you will find that around 54% voted to leave the EU. Nobody can positively say Brexit was bad or good. Except Reeves perhaps and she's the great oracle who worked for the BoE for 10 years. Even she doesn't know the difference between five and a half and ten.
One of the main reasons people like teflon Tony wanted to stay in the EU was because it was in his own interests. Blair never did anything that wasn't able to fill his pockets,
Now we are left with yet another Labour government who think tax and spend is the way forward whilst crippling people and companies.
Maybe you "Have found them lads" . You have your opinion and I have mine. Nothing wrong with that. Except certain factions within the UK seem to think that anyone having a different opinion to themselves has some sort of a problem. |
It was 52% and pretty much every analysis before and after the referendum has shown that Brexit has left the country worse off, it's not just Rachel Reeves who thinks so. | |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:18 - Oct 20 with 1248 views | Whos_blue |
We've asked this a dozen times before but might as well ask it again as it has been brought up.
Can anyone here, even the most ardent brexiteers, state one thing that is better in the UK since we left the EU?
Just one?
I won't throw it back as I'm genuinely interested if I'm missing something. |  |
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| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:28 - Oct 20 with 1213 views | Herbivore |
| The Brexit effect, is it really a 4% hit to our economy ? Reeves thinks so. on 14:18 - Oct 20 by Whos_blue |
We've asked this a dozen times before but might as well ask it again as it has been brought up.
Can anyone here, even the most ardent brexiteers, state one thing that is better in the UK since we left the EU?
Just one?
I won't throw it back as I'm genuinely interested if I'm missing something. |
Personally I bloody love a massive queue so the added queuing at airports has been a bonus. Really frustrated Labour have done a deal to address that issue. | |
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