| What has gone wrong ? 07:09 - Oct 22 with 958 views | Pippin1970 |
Is it tactics, players, management , expectations or pressure. |  | | |  |
| What has gone wrong ? on 07:38 - Oct 22 with 849 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Maybe a bit of all of the above!
Tactical and formation inflexibility is a frustration- square pegs and round holes comes to mind. But recruitment has to play part of it. Nearly a quarter of the season gone and one clean sheet, we are so fragile at the back despite >30m spent. A 0-0 wouldn’t have been a disaster last night if we failed to break them down, but you can’t be chasing 3 goals at home, same story all season.
There are other problems too but at least if you can defend you can grind some points out, at the moment we aren’t doing ANYTHING particularly well. | | | |
| What has gone wrong ? on 07:42 - Oct 22 with 837 views | BeachBlue |
All 5.
We're too slow. Not direct enough. No enthusiasm from the fans. No cutting edge. No plan B. |  |
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| What has gone wrong ? on 07:58 - Oct 22 with 737 views | TIB |
As Beach said, it’s a mix of all 5.
We’ve definitely been found out now, teams know how we’ll play and prepare accordingly.
Hirst and Azon but have strong aerial ability so I really don’t get why we don’t go more direct when Plan A isn’t working. It was commendable in our promotion seasons where we’d stick to our guns and ultimately grind out wins, but that’s not happening now. |  |
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| What has gone wrong ? on 08:13 - Oct 22 with 679 views | TownieRob |
Off the pitch - Unnecessarily ripping the heart out of the side, replacing proven players with those said to have 'higher ceilings' has come at the cost of team spirit and cohesion. It also now feels like certain players have to play purely to justify their transfer fees rather than because they’ve earned their place.
On the pitch - Still no cohesion, no leaders, no clear tactics, and far too many individual errors.
In the stands - A fanbase now comparing this team of strangers to the heroes that came before them. The connection just isn’t there. Worse still, there’s a growing divide among supporters as some are afraid to question poor performances for fear of being labelled 'bedwetters' or accused of scapegoating. However you dress it up, it simply hasn’t been good enough.
Aprt from that..
Good morning btw. | | | |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:05 - Oct 22 with 562 views | ITFCSG |
KM's reluctance to deviate from his preferred formation and like for like changes makes him look like a genius when things are going well 23/24 but now that he has been sussed out by every manager in this division who knows we rarely go direct, take our own sweet time to move the ball up the field, can't defend, can't beat the low block and will stick to the script no matter what happens with no Plan B makes him look like the new Russell Martin. | | | |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:05 - Oct 22 with 563 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What has gone wrong ? on 08:13 - Oct 22 by TownieRob |
Off the pitch - Unnecessarily ripping the heart out of the side, replacing proven players with those said to have 'higher ceilings' has come at the cost of team spirit and cohesion. It also now feels like certain players have to play purely to justify their transfer fees rather than because they’ve earned their place.
On the pitch - Still no cohesion, no leaders, no clear tactics, and far too many individual errors.
In the stands - A fanbase now comparing this team of strangers to the heroes that came before them. The connection just isn’t there. Worse still, there’s a growing divide among supporters as some are afraid to question poor performances for fear of being labelled 'bedwetters' or accused of scapegoating. However you dress it up, it simply hasn’t been good enough.
Aprt from that..
Good morning btw. |
I don't think there's any evidence of people being afraid to question poor performances. This place is literally full of nothing else. |  |
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| What has gone wrong ? on 09:15 - Oct 22 with 468 views | TownieRob |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:05 - Oct 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't think there's any evidence of people being afraid to question poor performances. This place is literally full of nothing else. |
And what happens? A pile-on of people accusing others of 'wetting the bed' or saying 'it’ll come good'.
I appreciate optimism, I genuinely try to stay on that side of the debate but it’s just not quite right at the minute, and there are no clear signs of improvement. Equally, blindly insisting 'it will come good' is just as frustrating to some as the overly negative takes are.
It’s all about balance and dare I say it, healthy debate. | | | |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:25 - Oct 22 with 371 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:15 - Oct 22 by TownieRob |
And what happens? A pile-on of people accusing others of 'wetting the bed' or saying 'it’ll come good'.
I appreciate optimism, I genuinely try to stay on that side of the debate but it’s just not quite right at the minute, and there are no clear signs of improvement. Equally, blindly insisting 'it will come good' is just as frustrating to some as the overly negative takes are.
It’s all about balance and dare I say it, healthy debate. |
I think there's plenty of healthy debate and plenty of people criticising without being called bedwetters. | |
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| What has gone wrong ? on 09:32 - Oct 22 with 315 views | darkhorse28 |
It’s the CEO and manager, it always is. They make all the decisions on talent ID, coaching, motivation, formation, etc etc
The real issue has always been they have ZERO oversight, none, we bet the farm on two people, because there’s nobody in the ownership model with football knowledge.
Our owners are playing at it, and they always were, some goodwill and marketing and we swallowed it, they’ve spent a fortune, and deserved more in that respect, but giving Ashton the keys to a Ferrari with his 35 year long record of not being elite, was woefully poor decision making.
It’s a mess.
The reality is we need new investment, from genuine football people, a new chairman a new CEO and new manager and coaching staff.
That’s what happens when you index a club to ONE man.., no long term plan at all, it’s never existed.
We indulged Ashtons god complex and this is the consequence…, this doesn’t get sorted easily, without a lot of pain, and it won’t be quick.
We have Ashton and McKenna 100% of the credit, and that wasn’t right, and they’ll get 100% the blame…, probably not quite right either.
Ashton should have been sacked when he asked the owners to fly in and give McKenna a world class contract…, for a manager who’s never managed at that level for a single day …, in any context that’s poor decision making, lazy, and anything but considered and elite.
We could sign a proven world class manager at that level of investment, zero risk, none.
Ashton has to go.., more so than McKenna. | | | |
| 3-1. (n/t) on 09:34 - Oct 22 with 311 views | Bloots |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:32 - Oct 22 by darkhorse28 |
It’s the CEO and manager, it always is. They make all the decisions on talent ID, coaching, motivation, formation, etc etc
The real issue has always been they have ZERO oversight, none, we bet the farm on two people, because there’s nobody in the ownership model with football knowledge.
Our owners are playing at it, and they always were, some goodwill and marketing and we swallowed it, they’ve spent a fortune, and deserved more in that respect, but giving Ashton the keys to a Ferrari with his 35 year long record of not being elite, was woefully poor decision making.
It’s a mess.
The reality is we need new investment, from genuine football people, a new chairman a new CEO and new manager and coaching staff.
That’s what happens when you index a club to ONE man.., no long term plan at all, it’s never existed.
We indulged Ashtons god complex and this is the consequence…, this doesn’t get sorted easily, without a lot of pain, and it won’t be quick.
We have Ashton and McKenna 100% of the credit, and that wasn’t right, and they’ll get 100% the blame…, probably not quite right either.
Ashton should have been sacked when he asked the owners to fly in and give McKenna a world class contract…, for a manager who’s never managed at that level for a single day …, in any context that’s poor decision making, lazy, and anything but considered and elite.
We could sign a proven world class manager at that level of investment, zero risk, none.
Ashton has to go.., more so than McKenna. |
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| What has gone wrong ? on 09:50 - Oct 22 with 252 views | RobTheMonk |
I think that McKenna came in ahead of the competition in tactics. Other clubs have caught up.
Then we've overspent money on players and I'd argue perhaps quite lazily when we got promoted. Championship all-stars with Cajuste, and Phillips, whose been crap for ages, thrown in.
Why the fudge we got rid of Burgess is anyone's guess.
And Morsy and Mass going on frees. Both highly experienced Championship players and real leaders on the pitch.
Too much change in too short a time with play that's too predictable. |  | | |
| What has gone wrong ? on 09:50 - Oct 22 with 252 views | BloomBlue |
Going forward we're too slow. I'm not talking long ball to the No.9, but we play it across the back to find space but when we do we don't play the ball quickly enough to the player in space, gives the oppo chance to cover.
The No.10 role isn't working. Its a key part of McK's formation but it's not working at the moment, leaving a gap between forward and midfield which the oppo are exploiting.
Defence is weak. We don't appear to have a consistent ball winner. Someone who will happily tackle/put their foot in. We didn't even win the headers last night.
Midfield are confused when to attack and when to defend. Midfield hasn't dominated any game yet.
Wingers crossing is schoolboy level at best.
No passion, you need passion.
We have a team of individuals, rather than a team, football is a team sport. If we can get that team spirit back, working for each other, covering for each other we'll be ok, but 'if' is a big word. |  | | |
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