| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine 20:00 - Dec 16 with 803 views | StokieBlue |
Obviously we are a few years down the line now but I thought it was worth highlighting this study given there is still a lot of misinformation spewed about mRNA vaccines from many sources including people in powerful positions (looking at you RFK Jr).
A long-term French study has been released which followed 28.6m individuals for 46 months to determine whether the mRNA covid vaccine caused a higher rate of all-cause mortality over that time frame.
The main conclusion is that vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe covid and no increased risk of all-course mortality over the 46 months. In fact vaccinated individuals actually had a 25% lower risk of all-cause mortality regardless of cause. Some of this could be due to lessening the long-term effects of covid infection and some may be due to socioeconomic factors.
The study and statistical analysis can be seen here:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2842305
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 21:49 - Dec 16 with 629 views | KBsSocks |
Good stuff, thanks !
I like the "age is by far a major risk factor for death" deep in the Discussion section =D |  |
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 22:05 - Dec 16 with 597 views | Swansea_Blue |
I saw that last week. It’s an interesting observation that the vaccinated people may have had lower risks overall for other diseases. Although obviously it’s worth noting the paper points out not to read too much into that as there could be other factors at play. They were confident about the Covid protection though.
As this is for mRNA vaccines, presumably that includes Moderna and Pfizer? My first one was the Oxford/Astra Zenica one, but then I remember them having some minor issues with that one and we pulled back from it. My boosters were first Moderna in Dec 21 and then Pfizer in Nov 22.
I was a lot better when I caught Covid after being vaccinated than before, which nearly finished me off. I’ve never been so ill. So I’m all for this and would encourage the most vulnerable to get vaccinated still, as it still seems to be doing the rounds. [Post edited 16 Dec 22:19]
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 22:23 - Dec 16 with 540 views | StokieBlue |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 22:05 - Dec 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I saw that last week. It’s an interesting observation that the vaccinated people may have had lower risks overall for other diseases. Although obviously it’s worth noting the paper points out not to read too much into that as there could be other factors at play. They were confident about the Covid protection though.
As this is for mRNA vaccines, presumably that includes Moderna and Pfizer? My first one was the Oxford/Astra Zenica one, but then I remember them having some minor issues with that one and we pulled back from it. My boosters were first Moderna in Dec 21 and then Pfizer in Nov 22.
I was a lot better when I caught Covid after being vaccinated than before, which nearly finished me off. I’ve never been so ill. So I’m all for this and would encourage the most vulnerable to get vaccinated still, as it still seems to be doing the rounds. [Post edited 16 Dec 22:19]
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Yes, Moderna and Pzifer were the mRNA vaccines.
I think the main point is that having the vaccine lowered the impact of any subsequent covid infection. People may have recovered from the covid infection but had significant post-infection issues related to the infection but not covid itself which caused mortality. The mRNA vaccines seem to have reduced this longer term risk.
It's possible that the vaccine activated a "trained immunity" effect where a non-specific immune response occurs protecting against other diseases but research on this is ongoing I believe.
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 22:46 - Dec 16 with 486 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 22:05 - Dec 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I saw that last week. It’s an interesting observation that the vaccinated people may have had lower risks overall for other diseases. Although obviously it’s worth noting the paper points out not to read too much into that as there could be other factors at play. They were confident about the Covid protection though.
As this is for mRNA vaccines, presumably that includes Moderna and Pfizer? My first one was the Oxford/Astra Zenica one, but then I remember them having some minor issues with that one and we pulled back from it. My boosters were first Moderna in Dec 21 and then Pfizer in Nov 22.
I was a lot better when I caught Covid after being vaccinated than before, which nearly finished me off. I’ve never been so ill. So I’m all for this and would encourage the most vulnerable to get vaccinated still, as it still seems to be doing the rounds. [Post edited 16 Dec 22:19]
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The American Cancer Society are right behind mRNA vaccine for cancer.
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/managing-cancer/treatment-types/immunotherapy/canc
Happening in the UK also.
https://pharmaphorum.com/oncology/beyond-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-aim-revolutionis |  | | |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 with 374 views | Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |  | | |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 06:37 - Dec 17 with 283 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
Yeah much more sensible to believe people like qualified scientist and pervert Russell Brand on YouTube of course… | | | |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:05 - Dec 17 with 252 views | LeoMuff |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
28 million participants, why wouldn’t you ? |  |
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:10 - Dec 17 with 237 views | NedPlimpton |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
And what should we believe instead? |  | | |
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:13 - Dec 17 with 236 views | bluelagos |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
Why believe a report done by experts when you can believe a fckwit with no scientific or medical knowledge eh.
Nah, you're ok pal. |  |
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:27 - Dec 17 with 187 views | StokieBlue |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 06:37 - Dec 17 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Yeah much more sensible to believe people like qualified scientist and pervert Russell Brand on YouTube of course… |
He does the same thing on every vaccine thread, I asked him not to contribute on such threads last time but he always posts rubbish like this.
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| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:52 - Dec 17 with 132 views | iamatractorboy |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
After saying that, I'm sure you'll be presenting your own peer-reviewed paper on the subject, right? Right.......? | | | |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 07:53 - Dec 17 with 122 views | iamatractorboy |
| French study on the all-cause mortality risk of the mRNA covid vaccine on 02:33 - Dec 17 by Denny32 |
If ye believe all those studies ..ye definitely are easily fooled .. |
Oh, and claims presented without evidence can be dismissed equally easily. So jog on, mate. | | | |
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