| FAO Blue Action / Ultras 19:26 - Jan 22 with 3042 views | victorysquad |
I asked ChatGpt: "do ultras travel to away games"
and it said:
"Yes, ultras extensively travel to away games, often viewing it as an obligation to support their team and represent their group's pride in other cities or countries. These, dedicated supporters frequently organize large-scale trips to create atmosphere, display banners, and march through host cities"
So why don't Blue Action travel away? (we need them, and we need the drummer, you know who you are :) )
Not seen since Port Vale away (October 25th, 2022)
I want to see us getting promoted this season, and that means we need everyone fully at it. Lets not forget the past 20 years. [Post edited 22 Jan 19:30]
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 17:09 - Jan 23 with 584 views | bluelagos |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 13:36 - Jan 23 by J2BLUE |
The tone of that OP is incredible. |
I misinterpreted it, maybe you have too (not a criticism)
Think it's a "call to arms" rather than a criticism tbf |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 17:13 - Jan 23 with 567 views | TJS |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 07:52 - Jan 23 by ashtonscoffeecup |
or, and this is a wild idea, those that do go to away games unfold their arms, put down their Bovril, and join in/create an atmosphere?
Will never cease to amaze me that people get in their cars, take trains, from 0700/0800 to get to a game - then stand in silence.
Each to their own of course, but bizarre |
This and ditto for 90% of the SBR lower at home games. |  | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 18:06 - Jan 23 with 508 views | victorysquad |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 17:09 - Jan 23 by bluelagos |
I misinterpreted it, maybe you have too (not a criticism)
Think it's a "call to arms" rather than a criticism tbf |
Yes it was not well written but basically I think the club should be doing more to help the group expand, find a better stand at PR, and if they want 50 tickets together away, then they should get them imo. | |
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| It is not "trained by humans" on 19:48 - Jan 23 with 457 views | armchaircritic59 |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 13:16 - Jan 23 by Dyland |
It isn't even trained. Like "machine learning" this is weasel language used by big tech to create a narrative where they profit whilst human creators whose art, music, film, writing, etc. lose out. It continues a dangerous trend of anthropomorphosising machines, and hinders the development of genuine AGI and AI that's genuinely beneficial to humanity.
Large language models such as chatGBT scrape online data from pretty much any old thing. The companies do also license content from curated or reliable data sets and sources but the output is often wrong, and unchecked. As you say, people should always check primary sources. LLMs are not a primary source and never will be. Indeed, they "train" on their own output. It is snake oil. A veritable crock of sh1t. Google AI overview is a classic example of why not to trust this, and to think for oneself.
LLMs don't have eyes, ears, noses or brains. They can't "learn". They copy and store humans' words and creative endeavours that are online (usually without permission) and then churn out the same or similar that a) benefits the tech company and b) competes with the original content and effectively puts humans out of work and business.
Last word... money is power, and the US Tech lobby is very, very strong in the UK as well as the US. This power is very quickly becoming distilled into a small cabal of delusional nutjobs who are anti-competitive, anti-democratic, and driven by two things only, profit and ego. We're effectively a vassal state anyway but any right minded UK citizen should resist. It is not futile :) |
Some of what you say is true, I've no complaints about that. It's a revolution and like all revolutions it will put noses out of joint, and create an army of luddites. I dare say there are a few who would prefer that we still lived in caves and bashed each others heads with clubs.
As for putting the likes of artists, musicians livelyhoods in danger, again some truth in that, as in other employments. However if their output is at least as good if not better than anything AI can produce they will have no problems, and they also have the choice of joining the " gravy chain " It's a fast changing world, I only hope I live long enough to see where it's going, as I'm almost 71. I doubt AI could make a greater hash up of running the world than most of our so called leaders are doing. | | | |
| Total and utter nonsense on 20:12 - Jan 23 with 441 views | Dyland |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 19:48 - Jan 23 by armchaircritic59 |
Some of what you say is true, I've no complaints about that. It's a revolution and like all revolutions it will put noses out of joint, and create an army of luddites. I dare say there are a few who would prefer that we still lived in caves and bashed each others heads with clubs.
As for putting the likes of artists, musicians livelyhoods in danger, again some truth in that, as in other employments. However if their output is at least as good if not better than anything AI can produce they will have no problems, and they also have the choice of joining the " gravy chain " It's a fast changing world, I only hope I live long enough to see where it's going, as I'm almost 71. I doubt AI could make a greater hash up of running the world than most of our so called leaders are doing. |
Revolutions by their very nature are instigated by, or at least on behalf of, the weak, the downtrodden, the poor. Wake up ffs.
An army of luddites, you say? Rather a luddite than a US tech shill. You use luddite as if it's an insult and write of caves and clubs. What an awful analogy. You don't need to want progress at the expense of human creativity, they are symbiotoic.
Your last sentence is naive and absurd. |  |
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| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:41 - Jan 23 with 392 views | LRB84UK |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 18:06 - Jan 23 by victorysquad |
Yes it was not well written but basically I think the club should be doing more to help the group expand, find a better stand at PR, and if they want 50 tickets together away, then they should get them imo. |
Why should they get 50 seats together.
They are no more important than any other fan who travels to away games. | | | |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 20:45 - Jan 23 with 384 views | Dyland |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 15:00 - Jan 23 by SaleAway |
I’ve just been down an hour long CHATGPT rabbit hole by SaleAway 16 Jan 10:43There's a lot to be said for not equating ChatGPT with the general capabilities of AI. GPT-4 is trained on huge amounts of internet data, but that data is not really curated. AI models developed for medical, commercial, defence use, will likely be trained on much more reliable data sets.
Yes, ChatGPT gets a lot of things very wrong, but AI for specific tasks when it is developed with rigour can be incredibly powerful. Like any tool, using the right tool for the right job is key.
You wouldn't entrust the software that controls your car's brakes to a random programmer on the internet, without lots of checks and balances, in the same way that safety critical AI has to be trained and verified under really strict conditions.
Do you think AI or Donald Trump pose more immediate risk to world peace? :-)
probably worth reading this comment. The idea that AI is ChatGPT is hugely missing the point. LLMs can do much more than regurgitate guff from the internet. I have a project where an LLM monitors the output of various financial regulatory bodies, then maps it to policies in order to provide compliance reports for banks. This is AI in a highly regulated industry, where the models need to be trained, validated and traceable to an incredibly high standard. |
"The idea that AI is ChatGPT is hugely missing the point"
No one sane or without massive financial buy-in is saying that, obviously :) | |
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| Total and utter nonsense on 21:49 - Jan 23 with 351 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Total and utter nonsense on 20:12 - Jan 23 by Dyland |
Revolutions by their very nature are instigated by, or at least on behalf of, the weak, the downtrodden, the poor. Wake up ffs.
An army of luddites, you say? Rather a luddite than a US tech shill. You use luddite as if it's an insult and write of caves and clubs. What an awful analogy. You don't need to want progress at the expense of human creativity, they are symbiotoic.
Your last sentence is naive and absurd. |
” Revolutions by their very nature are instigated by, or at least on behalf of, the weak, the downtrodden, the poor. Wake up ffs.”
Really? The “Industrial Revolution”, that created the Luddites and was in response to the workers (“downtrodden”) fearing for their jobs.
There are different types of revolution - not all fit snuggly in your definition. [Post edited 23 Jan 21:53]
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| It is not "trained by humans" on 21:51 - Jan 23 with 348 views | BlueBadger |
| It is not "trained by humans" on 19:48 - Jan 23 by armchaircritic59 |
Some of what you say is true, I've no complaints about that. It's a revolution and like all revolutions it will put noses out of joint, and create an army of luddites. I dare say there are a few who would prefer that we still lived in caves and bashed each others heads with clubs.
As for putting the likes of artists, musicians livelyhoods in danger, again some truth in that, as in other employments. However if their output is at least as good if not better than anything AI can produce they will have no problems, and they also have the choice of joining the " gravy chain " It's a fast changing world, I only hope I live long enough to see where it's going, as I'm almost 71. I doubt AI could make a greater hash up of running the world than most of our so called leaders are doing. |
Shut it, clanker. |  |
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| That's exactly what I'm saying on 21:54 - Jan 23 with 342 views | Dyland |
| Total and utter nonsense on 21:49 - Jan 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
” Revolutions by their very nature are instigated by, or at least on behalf of, the weak, the downtrodden, the poor. Wake up ffs.”
Really? The “Industrial Revolution”, that created the Luddites and was in response to the workers (“downtrodden”) fearing for their jobs.
There are different types of revolution - not all fit snuggly in your definition. [Post edited 23 Jan 21:53]
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Huh?
And using "luddite" as some kind of insult (not you) is an egregious crock. | |
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| That's exactly what I'm saying on 22:04 - Jan 23 with 324 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| That's exactly what I'm saying on 21:54 - Jan 23 by Dyland |
Huh?
And using "luddite" as some kind of insult (not you) is an egregious crock. |
I was just pointing out that your description of a revolution wasn’t entirely complete or accurate. I think it’s fair to describe the evolution of AI as a revolution (with many parallels to the Industrial Revolution).
I do also agree that it’s somewhat unnecessarily aggressive to describe people who have fears and reservations about some of its current application and implementations as an ‘army of luddites’. | | | |
| I completely agree on 22:07 - Jan 23 with 315 views | Dyland |
| That's exactly what I'm saying on 22:04 - Jan 23 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I was just pointing out that your description of a revolution wasn’t entirely complete or accurate. I think it’s fair to describe the evolution of AI as a revolution (with many parallels to the Industrial Revolution).
I do also agree that it’s somewhat unnecessarily aggressive to describe people who have fears and reservations about some of its current application and implementations as an ‘army of luddites’. |
Not sure wnat you're disagreeing with tbh. You may be more drunk than I (doubtful).
Goodnight!
COYFB | |
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| I completely agree on 22:14 - Jan 23 with 298 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| I completely agree on 22:07 - Jan 23 by Dyland |
Not sure wnat you're disagreeing with tbh. You may be more drunk than I (doubtful).
Goodnight!
COYFB |
On the port now, so maybe I am.
BTW my reply was (trying, and maybe failing) to mostly agree with you.
Namaste. | | | |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 06:59 - Jan 24 with 197 views | Papillon64 |
| FAO Blue Action / Ultras on 20:41 - Jan 23 by LRB84UK |
Why should they get 50 seats together.
They are no more important than any other fan who travels to away games. |
More than fair comment. Some people just like to study the game , the tactics and the drama. I love a good sing song at football but we are all different/unique. If all you want to do is sing, then thats what concerts are for...looking at A block the other night I could see 'said yoof' with there backs to the game not interested in the flow of the game, singing and doing their thing. Thats there choice, but like I have said on a different post, sick of this culture in life of 'my beliefs are better than yours so I am right' nonsense. we are all different and do things/support differently. |  | | |
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