| How ambitious are our owners? 10:11 - Jan 24 with 1950 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
I genuinely think that the owners are more ambitious than we dare even think as fans.
Most fans would be pretty satisfied with becoming a stable mid table Prem team.
I'm beginning to think our owners see us as much more than that. I think they want trophies, and to be established in the top 6, as were were under Sir Bob. That renewed image of the great man on the end of the Cobbold, with the UEFA Cup. It's not just a nod to history, is it? They want to repeat it.
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:25 - Jan 24 with 1859 views | Guthrum |
Yes, but I think they also understand it's going to be a long process, achieved in stages. The evidence being the expenditure on infrastructure and ground development, plus the complete lack of peturbment at last season's lack of success and relegation (including retention and continued support of the manager).
No quick breakthrough is expected. Which in turn means that strong foundations are being laid down to support a sustained Premier League membership and the base to push on from there. Removes the fragility where teams have had a brief flash of managerial excellence and expensively recruited squad, before fading away more or less dramatically. |  |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:31 - Jan 24 with 1795 views | Cafe_Newman |
That would be the stuff of dreams and probably the only way for us to keep our excellent manager. Can you imagine a Kieran McKenna stand between the SBR and SAR stands? Perhaps a Mark Ashton stand too? |  | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:35 - Jan 24 with 1749 views | Bobbychase |
And the odd thing is, they have been saying it from the very start - how they want us established in the Prem. |  |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:38 - Jan 24 with 1715 views | Cafe_Newman |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:25 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Yes, but I think they also understand it's going to be a long process, achieved in stages. The evidence being the expenditure on infrastructure and ground development, plus the complete lack of peturbment at last season's lack of success and relegation (including retention and continued support of the manager).
No quick breakthrough is expected. Which in turn means that strong foundations are being laid down to support a sustained Premier League membership and the base to push on from there. Removes the fragility where teams have had a brief flash of managerial excellence and expensively recruited squad, before fading away more or less dramatically. |
No offence Guthers, but your posts have now morphed almost completely to AI speak. | | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:39 - Jan 24 with 1709 views | Guthrum |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:38 - Jan 24 by Cafe_Newman |
No offence Guthers, but your posts have now morphed almost completely to AI speak. |
It's more that AI talks like I do.
Which leads to the alarming thought it was trained by people like me! | |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:41 - Jan 24 with 1689 views | Cafe_Newman |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:39 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
It's more that AI talks like I do.
Which leads to the alarming thought it was trained by people like me! |
It's quite impressive, I'll give you that.
EDIT: The temptation to hallucinate occasionally (to keep us wondering) must be enormous at times. [Post edited 24 Jan 10:46]
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 11:10 - Jan 24 with 1458 views | _CliveBaker_ |
We spent £100m+ on promotion and they’re investing £30m+ on the training ground so they’re not looking for a quick pump & dump. The best chance they’ve got of achieving a significant return on their spend is by us establishing at premier league level. I wouldn’t think they’re thinking of Europe or anything like that but there’s no reason we can’t emulate clubs like B’mouth, Brighton, Fulham etc. There’s also no reason a number of other championship clubs can’t either to be fair, but that will be what they’re aiming for. With the foundations in place off the pitch to attract & develop young players, a strong balance sheet and 2-3 consecutive seasons of premier league status they would be sitting very pretty. |  | | |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 11:25 - Jan 24 with 1342 views | OldFart71 |
If the owners want trophies I think they are a long,long way away from them at present.
If as with last post season we were to sell our two best players such as Philogen, Clarke or Matusiwa we would be back to square one again.
The current squad in my opinion is probably half a dozen players of what we would need just to maintain a Premier League spot.
We don't have an out and out striker. I hope Azon comes good, but he would need to step up considerably. We need a number 10 and another midfielder and cover or someone better than Furlong and use him as cover as Young will probably be finished.
Then there's the goalkeeper situation. Two decent Championship keepers, but are they Premier League class.
Cooper had Burley, Mills, Hunter and Beattie in front of him and although the current back line are pretty solid they hardly come up to the standard of those four. |  | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 12:55 - Jan 24 with 1010 views | Guthrum |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 11:25 - Jan 24 by OldFart71 |
If the owners want trophies I think they are a long,long way away from them at present.
If as with last post season we were to sell our two best players such as Philogen, Clarke or Matusiwa we would be back to square one again.
The current squad in my opinion is probably half a dozen players of what we would need just to maintain a Premier League spot.
We don't have an out and out striker. I hope Azon comes good, but he would need to step up considerably. We need a number 10 and another midfielder and cover or someone better than Furlong and use him as cover as Young will probably be finished.
Then there's the goalkeeper situation. Two decent Championship keepers, but are they Premier League class.
Cooper had Burley, Mills, Hunter and Beattie in front of him and although the current back line are pretty solid they hardly come up to the standard of those four. |
I think we will see quite a lot of changes in the summer if promoted. Perhaps starting from a higher base than last time (with then still much of a high-end L1 squad). Really don't believe it's possible to create a proper Prem squad in the Champ. Sunderland's success has come after a raft of new signings.
It's also going to require a number of stages. There's no way we'll go straight to the top quartile of the division and stay there. So Town will have to get established, then start attracting the very high level players with which we can start challenging for Europe and trophies. | |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:05 - Jan 24 with 955 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 11:25 - Jan 24 by OldFart71 |
If the owners want trophies I think they are a long,long way away from them at present.
If as with last post season we were to sell our two best players such as Philogen, Clarke or Matusiwa we would be back to square one again.
The current squad in my opinion is probably half a dozen players of what we would need just to maintain a Premier League spot.
We don't have an out and out striker. I hope Azon comes good, but he would need to step up considerably. We need a number 10 and another midfielder and cover or someone better than Furlong and use him as cover as Young will probably be finished.
Then there's the goalkeeper situation. Two decent Championship keepers, but are they Premier League class.
Cooper had Burley, Mills, Hunter and Beattie in front of him and although the current back line are pretty solid they hardly come up to the standard of those four. |
That's the spirit!!
We sold our best two players last season because we were relegated, why would we do it again?! Weird. Of course we haven't got a prem ready squad, that has absolutely nothing to do with the owners ambitions one way or another. They will all have learnt from last season and will try again next if and when we go up. But it will be bloomin' hard again to stay up and it won't be for a lack of trying.
I don't really understand your points with regards the GK, striker and Furlong. We go up and our absolute best players might make the bench, it's that brutal. Again we can't replace with any genuine prem quality until we get there and even then it will be a gamble. Our entire team will be demoted and we'd need a new one, more or less, so worrying about azor furlong and keepers is unnecessary.
We're doing fine, we're on course to get promoted and well backed, but can't worry about the prem until we're there at which point it will be absolute carnage and largely pot luck as to how much we can compete. Strap in and enjoy it again. |  | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:24 - Jan 24 with 861 views | Nutkins_Return |
Never rule out getting a trophy however unlikely as Palace have shown it can be done. And Wigan before them etc.
But we aren't going to be an establish top 6 club. Would be great to get into Europe we are talking light years of difference in revenue/budget/size of club.
We can be one an established prem team though like Brighton/Palace and co. | |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:32 - Jan 24 with 822 views | JackNorthStand |
Become established in the premier league and then regular European football | | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:35 - Jan 24 with 791 views | Guthrum |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:24 - Jan 24 by Nutkins_Return |
Never rule out getting a trophy however unlikely as Palace have shown it can be done. And Wigan before them etc.
But we aren't going to be an establish top 6 club. Would be great to get into Europe we are talking light years of difference in revenue/budget/size of club.
We can be one an established prem team though like Brighton/Palace and co. |
Villa have managed to work their way up to it, having come up from the Championship six and a half years ago. They are not a so much bigger club than Town.
Over a similar kind of timescale, I wouldn't rule it out. | |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:42 - Jan 24 with 749 views | RIPbobby |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:35 - Jan 24 by Bobbychase |
And the odd thing is, they have been saying it from the very start - how they want us established in the Prem. |
Yes they did say that from the start, but they have also backed it up with sensible long term expenditure. Very much the opposite of what Evans and clegg did. Remember their root and branch. |  | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:43 - Jan 24 with 740 views | RetroBlue |
I said when they took us over the Three Lions were looking at Champions League and not just the PL. But of course these things take time. Pay back happens when youre playing and competing at the highest level and im not even convinced the PL is that. |  |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 13:49 - Jan 24 with 714 views | Deano69 |
They have European football as their target. Simple as that. |  |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 14:30 - Jan 24 with 565 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 11:25 - Jan 24 by OldFart71 |
If the owners want trophies I think they are a long,long way away from them at present.
If as with last post season we were to sell our two best players such as Philogen, Clarke or Matusiwa we would be back to square one again.
The current squad in my opinion is probably half a dozen players of what we would need just to maintain a Premier League spot.
We don't have an out and out striker. I hope Azon comes good, but he would need to step up considerably. We need a number 10 and another midfielder and cover or someone better than Furlong and use him as cover as Young will probably be finished.
Then there's the goalkeeper situation. Two decent Championship keepers, but are they Premier League class.
Cooper had Burley, Mills, Hunter and Beattie in front of him and although the current back line are pretty solid they hardly come up to the standard of those four. |
We’d need a lot of new players still. A lot of our best players this season our PL squad type players. |  |
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| How ambitious are our owners? on 14:33 - Jan 24 with 541 views | yesjohn99 |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 14:30 - Jan 24 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
We’d need a lot of new players still. A lot of our best players this season our PL squad type players. |
This team is more than capable of promotion but sadly a million miles away from staying in the premier league. | | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 15:43 - Jan 24 with 395 views | Smoresy |
Good on us. We are one of over 20 highly ambitious clubs in the country, though, which guarantees disappointment in a few places.
Improving the training ground really was crucial. Secures us a fair footing going forward. Does it elevate us above many of the top 20? I guess it rather means we'll soon have bridged what was a huge gap. Do similarly with recruitment and we'll earn ourselves more than a puncher's chance of surviving, which would be a big achievement. Several have failed in that endeavour and several have succeeded, with boatloads of money spent by the losers as well as the winners.
I think we're very unlikely to have more than a puncher's chance of finishing in the top 6, at least while current rules remain in place. How do we generate the funds to compete? To hold onto exceptional players if we discover some? A puncher's chance is still a chance, however; we could still enjoy a pinch-yourself season or two, and become genuinely competitive on wages with half the division.
First up is Sheffield United mind, who will be tough to beat from here! | | | |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 16:03 - Jan 24 with 321 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| How ambitious are our owners? on 10:25 - Jan 24 by Guthrum |
Yes, but I think they also understand it's going to be a long process, achieved in stages. The evidence being the expenditure on infrastructure and ground development, plus the complete lack of peturbment at last season's lack of success and relegation (including retention and continued support of the manager).
No quick breakthrough is expected. Which in turn means that strong foundations are being laid down to support a sustained Premier League membership and the base to push on from there. Removes the fragility where teams have had a brief flash of managerial excellence and expensively recruited squad, before fading away more or less dramatically. |
It's a shame many fans can't see that, though.
Another issue is that money and ambition alone don't enable the club to attract the quality of player we are after as we have seen with Hackney. It is the balance between being ambitious with signings but not being unrealistic with who we go after. |  |
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