| Palestine Action 18:24 - Feb 4 with 4499 views | DJR |
https://www.theguardian.com/uk
"Palestine Action activists cleared of aggravated burglary at Israeli defence firm site
None of the six activists were convicted of any offence over break-in at Elbit Systems factory near Bristol in 2024"
A couple of observations.
1. No wonder they want to get rid of jury trials.
2. Defend Our Juries said the verdicts were “a huge blow to government ministers” who had “tried to portray Palestine Action as a violent group to justify banning it under badly drafted terrorism legislation”. Amnesty International also said it showed how disproportionate the proscription decision was. [Post edited 4 Feb 18:25]
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| Palestine Action on 09:36 - Feb 5 with 827 views | Benters |
| Palestine Action on 09:08 - Feb 5 by ashtonscoffeecup |
hitting someone with a sledge hammer for any cause is tw@t behaviour |
Now that is something I’m sure we can all agree on! |  |
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| Palestine Action on 09:38 - Feb 5 with 816 views | Steve_M |
| Palestine Action on 09:13 - Feb 5 by DJR |
What you say in point 1 is correct but maybe it is the bringing of such serious charges (with possible life imprisonment) which makes it harder to convince a jury, and maybe the chances of conviction would have greater with lesser charges.
Having said that, had lesser charges been brought it would have severely weakened the case for proscribing Palestine Action.
And of course, if jury trials are abolished for crimes with a term of imprisonment of less than five years, what's to stop charges being brought in future in all sorts of cases to ensure there is no jury?
As regards your last point, Defend Our Juries clearly has a vested interest, but it is not just pro-Palestinian organisations which have opposed the proscription of Palestine Action.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/lat
https://www.counselmagazine.co
Of course, people might say that people like this are just leftists or lefty lawyers but with the creeping crackdown on protest, I think it is right in a liberal democracy to be concerned. [Post edited 5 Feb 9:18]
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"possible life imprisonment) which makes it harder to convince a jury, and maybe the chances of conviction would have greater with lesser charges."
My presumption here is that some members of the jury were motivated by personal belief and the wider issues around Palestine Action rather than the facts of the case - it's hard to see the failure to reach a verdict on the bloke who hit a police office in the back with a sledgehammer any other way. |  |
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| Palestine Action on 09:41 - Feb 5 with 802 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Palestine Action on 08:11 - Feb 5 by MattinLondon |
In support of something British/ English.
What’ve so do you mean by that? Can you provide a couple of examples? |
Trashing a French scone factory perhaps.
....oh and cricket, something to do with cricket. [Post edited 5 Feb 9:42]
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| Palestine Action on 09:42 - Feb 5 with 797 views | DJR |
| Palestine Action on 09:38 - Feb 5 by Steve_M |
"possible life imprisonment) which makes it harder to convince a jury, and maybe the chances of conviction would have greater with lesser charges."
My presumption here is that some members of the jury were motivated by personal belief and the wider issues around Palestine Action rather than the facts of the case - it's hard to see the failure to reach a verdict on the bloke who hit a police office in the back with a sledgehammer any other way. |
You can surmise all you like, but unless you sat on the jury you can't be sure. And the missing CCTV does sound a bit dodgy, given the nature of the premises.
But the more jury verdicts are challenged, the more the case for their abolition is strengthened. [Post edited 5 Feb 9:43]
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| Palestine Action on 09:44 - Feb 5 with 783 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Palestine Action on 09:30 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Some people on here voted for this man to be Prime Minister.
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Good man, well said....no, not you. | |
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| Palestine Action on 09:55 - Feb 5 with 737 views | Steve_M |
| Palestine Action on 09:42 - Feb 5 by DJR |
You can surmise all you like, but unless you sat on the jury you can't be sure. And the missing CCTV does sound a bit dodgy, given the nature of the premises.
But the more jury verdicts are challenged, the more the case for their abolition is strengthened. [Post edited 5 Feb 9:43]
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Well, quite - which is why I kept that separate from the more important general points.
I'm not sure the jury verdicts are really being challenged here because they were unable to reach a verdict in most of the cases. It's just being conflated disingenuously by a lot of people for differing reasons. | |
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| Palestine Action on 09:58 - Feb 5 with 731 views | BlueForYou |
This Country needs a serious sorting out. This decision is complete lunacy. How abyvjudgecor jury could aquit these criminals is beyond pretty much everyone. Similar to those climate criminals who caused £1 million worth of damage to Barclays Bank last year. |  | | |
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| Palestine Action on 10:00 - Feb 5 with 726 views | MattinLondon |
| Palestine Action on 08:28 - Feb 5 by vapour_trail |
Total waste of time and effort, Matt. |
I know, but it’s so obvious a point. |  | | |
| Palestine Action on 10:18 - Feb 5 with 679 views | GlasgowBlue |
An extract from Stephen Pollard's column today.
It’s not been a great couple of years to be Jewish in Britain. Ever since twelve hundred Jews were massacred by Hamas in Israel in 2023, the response here in Britain has been an unprecedented wave of Jew hate, with hundreds of thousands taking to the streets week after week to join hate marches chanting “globalise the intifada” – roughly translating as, “kill the Jews”. That demand bore fruit last October at Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester.
In reality, the writing has been on the wall since 2015, when the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader unleashed a torrent of anti-Semitism which, at the time, seemed like a ceiling but has turned out to be a floor.
Throughout this past decade – through the assaults, the murders at Heaton Park, the verbal attacks and everything else – I’ve never really believed that it might be time to leave. I’ve always thought that there was a bedrock of decency among ordinary Britons. The antisemites might be vocal and growing, but they aren’t the full picture.
But the acquittal today of six members of Palestine Action over charges of aggravated burglary in connection with a break-in at the Elbit Systems factory in 2024, in which a police officer’s spine was shattered, is something altogether different.
The Jewish community and our allies have complained about the police’s lack of action in protecting us, and about the CPS’s refusal to prosecute in too many cases, sending a clear message to the antisemites that they are cleared to go about their business.
This case is different. The police acted. The CPS prosecuted. And what happened? A jury of ordinary Britons – the supposed bedrock of decency – decided to acquit the defendants.
That decision, I believe, may come to be seen as the single most significant case in the history of Anglo-Jewry since 1945. It shows that the game is up. We can no longer rely on the criminal justice system. And when the law is no longer there to protect us, who or what will?
The case involved a break-in at the Israeli defence contractor Elbit Systems’s factory near Bristol. It is open season on Israeli businesses at the moment – and by “Israeli” I mean any business in which an Israeli is thought by the so-called Free Palestine mob to be involved. That includes restaurants, cafes, comedy venues and anywhere else where there is the scent of a Jew.
Video evidence in the Elbit Systems case showed all six defendants entering the factory without permission and then damaging equipment. They told the jury that the sledgehammers they used were intended solely to destroy property and were not “in any circumstances intended to injure security staff”.
But as security guards tried to stop them, sledgehammers were swung at the guards. As Avon and Somerset Police Federation put it after the verdicts: “Like people across the country, we have viewed very distressing scenes during this trial, including footage of a police officer trying to maintain law and order only to be severely injured. We remind the public that a brave police officer’s spine was fractured during this incident.”
The jury could not reach a verdict on the charges of criminal damage against all six defendants, on the charges of violent disorder against three of them, or on the charge that one of them inflicted grievous bodily harm on Sgt Kate Evans.
To cut a long story short, the message of the case is this: you can smash the spine of a police officer and so long as you are doing it because of “Palestine”, you can walk home free.
How do I tell my children that they are safe when they walk the streets? If a Free Palestine protester decides to assault them because they look Jewish and so must be complicit in genocide – to use the blood libel de nos jours – will a jury decide the protestors were, indeed, protesting? So it seems.
This is a vital, real question, not just because it goes to the heart of whether there is a future for Jews in the UK, but because similar incidents are happening now. Recent cases include a knifeman running into a kosher shop and attacking Jews. He walked home after court.
And last month a huge mob terrified people inside a restaurant in West London with Israeli connections. The police stood and watched (and have subsequently apologised for their refusal to act). A convoy of cars drove through Jewish areas in north west London screaming “F--- the Jews, rape their daughters”. No one was prosecuted. And that’s not even to mention the hate spread in mosques, when no action is taken.
After any incident politicians mouth the ludicrous mantra, there is no place for antisemitism on the streets of Britain, when the evidence shows there is a very welcome place for it here. It may be that it’s now over for Jews in Britain. |  |
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| Palestine Action on 10:19 - Feb 5 with 677 views | MattinLondon |
| Palestine Action on 09:58 - Feb 5 by BlueForYou |
This Country needs a serious sorting out. This decision is complete lunacy. How abyvjudgecor jury could aquit these criminals is beyond pretty much everyone. Similar to those climate criminals who caused £1 million worth of damage to Barclays Bank last year. |
On what I’ve read, I have no idea how the jury could possibly let those people off. The way that it’s reported, they all seemed intent on causing extreme violence.
But I can’t see how it can be sorted out - the judiciary is independent from politics, allowing judges to make decisions based on law rather than political pressure. Juries are no different - the only way this can change is for a lot more political interference. | | | |
| Palestine Action on 10:24 - Feb 5 with 661 views | vapour_trail |
| Palestine Action on 10:00 - Feb 5 by MattinLondon |
I know, but it’s so obvious a point. |
Yours / mine / both? |  |
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| Palestine Action on 10:35 - Feb 5 with 636 views | Steve_M |
| Palestine Action on 10:18 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue |
An extract from Stephen Pollard's column today.
It’s not been a great couple of years to be Jewish in Britain. Ever since twelve hundred Jews were massacred by Hamas in Israel in 2023, the response here in Britain has been an unprecedented wave of Jew hate, with hundreds of thousands taking to the streets week after week to join hate marches chanting “globalise the intifada” – roughly translating as, “kill the Jews”. That demand bore fruit last October at Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester.
In reality, the writing has been on the wall since 2015, when the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader unleashed a torrent of anti-Semitism which, at the time, seemed like a ceiling but has turned out to be a floor.
Throughout this past decade – through the assaults, the murders at Heaton Park, the verbal attacks and everything else – I’ve never really believed that it might be time to leave. I’ve always thought that there was a bedrock of decency among ordinary Britons. The antisemites might be vocal and growing, but they aren’t the full picture.
But the acquittal today of six members of Palestine Action over charges of aggravated burglary in connection with a break-in at the Elbit Systems factory in 2024, in which a police officer’s spine was shattered, is something altogether different.
The Jewish community and our allies have complained about the police’s lack of action in protecting us, and about the CPS’s refusal to prosecute in too many cases, sending a clear message to the antisemites that they are cleared to go about their business.
This case is different. The police acted. The CPS prosecuted. And what happened? A jury of ordinary Britons – the supposed bedrock of decency – decided to acquit the defendants.
That decision, I believe, may come to be seen as the single most significant case in the history of Anglo-Jewry since 1945. It shows that the game is up. We can no longer rely on the criminal justice system. And when the law is no longer there to protect us, who or what will?
The case involved a break-in at the Israeli defence contractor Elbit Systems’s factory near Bristol. It is open season on Israeli businesses at the moment – and by “Israeli” I mean any business in which an Israeli is thought by the so-called Free Palestine mob to be involved. That includes restaurants, cafes, comedy venues and anywhere else where there is the scent of a Jew.
Video evidence in the Elbit Systems case showed all six defendants entering the factory without permission and then damaging equipment. They told the jury that the sledgehammers they used were intended solely to destroy property and were not “in any circumstances intended to injure security staff”.
But as security guards tried to stop them, sledgehammers were swung at the guards. As Avon and Somerset Police Federation put it after the verdicts: “Like people across the country, we have viewed very distressing scenes during this trial, including footage of a police officer trying to maintain law and order only to be severely injured. We remind the public that a brave police officer’s spine was fractured during this incident.”
The jury could not reach a verdict on the charges of criminal damage against all six defendants, on the charges of violent disorder against three of them, or on the charge that one of them inflicted grievous bodily harm on Sgt Kate Evans.
To cut a long story short, the message of the case is this: you can smash the spine of a police officer and so long as you are doing it because of “Palestine”, you can walk home free.
How do I tell my children that they are safe when they walk the streets? If a Free Palestine protester decides to assault them because they look Jewish and so must be complicit in genocide – to use the blood libel de nos jours – will a jury decide the protestors were, indeed, protesting? So it seems.
This is a vital, real question, not just because it goes to the heart of whether there is a future for Jews in the UK, but because similar incidents are happening now. Recent cases include a knifeman running into a kosher shop and attacking Jews. He walked home after court.
And last month a huge mob terrified people inside a restaurant in West London with Israeli connections. The police stood and watched (and have subsequently apologised for their refusal to act). A convoy of cars drove through Jewish areas in north west London screaming “F--- the Jews, rape their daughters”. No one was prosecuted. And that’s not even to mention the hate spread in mosques, when no action is taken.
After any incident politicians mouth the ludicrous mantra, there is no place for antisemitism on the streets of Britain, when the evidence shows there is a very welcome place for it here. It may be that it’s now over for Jews in Britain. |
I think it's a fallacy to see this rise in antisemitism as a British problem and not a global one.
And there will surely be a re-trial so this column is just as polarising drawing conclusions from one case as those claiming that the lack of verdict proves these were peaceful protesters. | |
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| Palestine Action on 10:47 - Feb 5 with 600 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Palestine Action on 10:18 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue |
An extract from Stephen Pollard's column today.
It’s not been a great couple of years to be Jewish in Britain. Ever since twelve hundred Jews were massacred by Hamas in Israel in 2023, the response here in Britain has been an unprecedented wave of Jew hate, with hundreds of thousands taking to the streets week after week to join hate marches chanting “globalise the intifada” – roughly translating as, “kill the Jews”. That demand bore fruit last October at Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester.
In reality, the writing has been on the wall since 2015, when the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader unleashed a torrent of anti-Semitism which, at the time, seemed like a ceiling but has turned out to be a floor.
Throughout this past decade – through the assaults, the murders at Heaton Park, the verbal attacks and everything else – I’ve never really believed that it might be time to leave. I’ve always thought that there was a bedrock of decency among ordinary Britons. The antisemites might be vocal and growing, but they aren’t the full picture.
But the acquittal today of six members of Palestine Action over charges of aggravated burglary in connection with a break-in at the Elbit Systems factory in 2024, in which a police officer’s spine was shattered, is something altogether different.
The Jewish community and our allies have complained about the police’s lack of action in protecting us, and about the CPS’s refusal to prosecute in too many cases, sending a clear message to the antisemites that they are cleared to go about their business.
This case is different. The police acted. The CPS prosecuted. And what happened? A jury of ordinary Britons – the supposed bedrock of decency – decided to acquit the defendants.
That decision, I believe, may come to be seen as the single most significant case in the history of Anglo-Jewry since 1945. It shows that the game is up. We can no longer rely on the criminal justice system. And when the law is no longer there to protect us, who or what will?
The case involved a break-in at the Israeli defence contractor Elbit Systems’s factory near Bristol. It is open season on Israeli businesses at the moment – and by “Israeli” I mean any business in which an Israeli is thought by the so-called Free Palestine mob to be involved. That includes restaurants, cafes, comedy venues and anywhere else where there is the scent of a Jew.
Video evidence in the Elbit Systems case showed all six defendants entering the factory without permission and then damaging equipment. They told the jury that the sledgehammers they used were intended solely to destroy property and were not “in any circumstances intended to injure security staff”.
But as security guards tried to stop them, sledgehammers were swung at the guards. As Avon and Somerset Police Federation put it after the verdicts: “Like people across the country, we have viewed very distressing scenes during this trial, including footage of a police officer trying to maintain law and order only to be severely injured. We remind the public that a brave police officer’s spine was fractured during this incident.”
The jury could not reach a verdict on the charges of criminal damage against all six defendants, on the charges of violent disorder against three of them, or on the charge that one of them inflicted grievous bodily harm on Sgt Kate Evans.
To cut a long story short, the message of the case is this: you can smash the spine of a police officer and so long as you are doing it because of “Palestine”, you can walk home free.
How do I tell my children that they are safe when they walk the streets? If a Free Palestine protester decides to assault them because they look Jewish and so must be complicit in genocide – to use the blood libel de nos jours – will a jury decide the protestors were, indeed, protesting? So it seems.
This is a vital, real question, not just because it goes to the heart of whether there is a future for Jews in the UK, but because similar incidents are happening now. Recent cases include a knifeman running into a kosher shop and attacking Jews. He walked home after court.
And last month a huge mob terrified people inside a restaurant in West London with Israeli connections. The police stood and watched (and have subsequently apologised for their refusal to act). A convoy of cars drove through Jewish areas in north west London screaming “F--- the Jews, rape their daughters”. No one was prosecuted. And that’s not even to mention the hate spread in mosques, when no action is taken.
After any incident politicians mouth the ludicrous mantra, there is no place for antisemitism on the streets of Britain, when the evidence shows there is a very welcome place for it here. It may be that it’s now over for Jews in Britain. |
Hot take!!
So trashing the factories of genocide enablers is antisemitic too now. | |
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| Palestine Action on 10:52 - Feb 5 with 577 views | MattinLondon |
| Palestine Action on 10:24 - Feb 5 by vapour_trail |
Yours / mine / both? |
Both. | | | |
| Palestine Action on 10:56 - Feb 5 with 571 views | Mercian |
It's possible there was a jury nullification which is in my opinion not appropriate when other crimes were committed, especially if violence was involved. If there is a nullification in a trial where someone was charged just for carrying a Palestine Action banner during a peaceful protest than that is a different matter. |  | | |
| Palestine Action on 11:09 - Feb 5 with 541 views | BlueForYou |
| Palestine Action on 10:19 - Feb 5 by MattinLondon |
On what I’ve read, I have no idea how the jury could possibly let those people off. The way that it’s reported, they all seemed intent on causing extreme violence.
But I can’t see how it can be sorted out - the judiciary is independent from politics, allowing judges to make decisions based on law rather than political pressure. Juries are no different - the only way this can change is for a lot more political interference. |
Who on earth were these jurors?? This needs a retrial. Outrageous! | | | |
| Palestine Action on 11:18 - Feb 5 with 518 views | MattinLondon |
| Palestine Action on 11:09 - Feb 5 by BlueForYou |
Who on earth were these jurors?? This needs a retrial. Outrageous! |
Ordinary members of the public. You need new evidence for a retrial - as flippant as it’ll no doubt sound. You simply can’t have a retrial because you disagree with the verdict. | | | |
| Palestine Action on 11:37 - Feb 5 with 482 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Palestine Action on 10:47 - Feb 5 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Hot take!!
So trashing the factories of genocide enablers is antisemitic too now. |
You didn't read the article did you. No one said that.
The point bering made is you can literally break the spine of a policewoman with a sledgehammer 'because of Palestine' and go free.
You can drive round Jewish parts of London for *hours* screaming "Fcuk the Jews, rape their daughters" 'because of Palestine' and not be apprehended by police or prosecuted when identified.
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/d
You can storm into a kosher supermarket with a knife and attack Jews 'because of Palestine' and face no hate crime charges or custodial sentence.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/
You can call for the destruction of Jewish homes and curse Jews and face no charges, let alone hate crime charges 'because of Palestine'.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
You can assault and terrify Jewish restaurant, synagogue and community centre-goers with impunity 'because of Palestine'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/
So in isolation, no the attack was not anti semitic. But taken with the other examples I've linked then there is a clear pattern that you can get away with antisemitism using the 'but Palestine' line. British Jews know what yesterday's verdict means for them.
edit. I think this reply alos covers Steve M's and Swanners point. [Post edited 5 Feb 11:52]
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| Palestine Action on 11:47 - Feb 5 with 460 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Palestine Action on 10:18 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue |
An extract from Stephen Pollard's column today.
It’s not been a great couple of years to be Jewish in Britain. Ever since twelve hundred Jews were massacred by Hamas in Israel in 2023, the response here in Britain has been an unprecedented wave of Jew hate, with hundreds of thousands taking to the streets week after week to join hate marches chanting “globalise the intifada” – roughly translating as, “kill the Jews”. That demand bore fruit last October at Heaton Park synagogue in Manchester.
In reality, the writing has been on the wall since 2015, when the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader unleashed a torrent of anti-Semitism which, at the time, seemed like a ceiling but has turned out to be a floor.
Throughout this past decade – through the assaults, the murders at Heaton Park, the verbal attacks and everything else – I’ve never really believed that it might be time to leave. I’ve always thought that there was a bedrock of decency among ordinary Britons. The antisemites might be vocal and growing, but they aren’t the full picture.
But the acquittal today of six members of Palestine Action over charges of aggravated burglary in connection with a break-in at the Elbit Systems factory in 2024, in which a police officer’s spine was shattered, is something altogether different.
The Jewish community and our allies have complained about the police’s lack of action in protecting us, and about the CPS’s refusal to prosecute in too many cases, sending a clear message to the antisemites that they are cleared to go about their business.
This case is different. The police acted. The CPS prosecuted. And what happened? A jury of ordinary Britons – the supposed bedrock of decency – decided to acquit the defendants.
That decision, I believe, may come to be seen as the single most significant case in the history of Anglo-Jewry since 1945. It shows that the game is up. We can no longer rely on the criminal justice system. And when the law is no longer there to protect us, who or what will?
The case involved a break-in at the Israeli defence contractor Elbit Systems’s factory near Bristol. It is open season on Israeli businesses at the moment – and by “Israeli” I mean any business in which an Israeli is thought by the so-called Free Palestine mob to be involved. That includes restaurants, cafes, comedy venues and anywhere else where there is the scent of a Jew.
Video evidence in the Elbit Systems case showed all six defendants entering the factory without permission and then damaging equipment. They told the jury that the sledgehammers they used were intended solely to destroy property and were not “in any circumstances intended to injure security staff”.
But as security guards tried to stop them, sledgehammers were swung at the guards. As Avon and Somerset Police Federation put it after the verdicts: “Like people across the country, we have viewed very distressing scenes during this trial, including footage of a police officer trying to maintain law and order only to be severely injured. We remind the public that a brave police officer’s spine was fractured during this incident.”
The jury could not reach a verdict on the charges of criminal damage against all six defendants, on the charges of violent disorder against three of them, or on the charge that one of them inflicted grievous bodily harm on Sgt Kate Evans.
To cut a long story short, the message of the case is this: you can smash the spine of a police officer and so long as you are doing it because of “Palestine”, you can walk home free.
How do I tell my children that they are safe when they walk the streets? If a Free Palestine protester decides to assault them because they look Jewish and so must be complicit in genocide – to use the blood libel de nos jours – will a jury decide the protestors were, indeed, protesting? So it seems.
This is a vital, real question, not just because it goes to the heart of whether there is a future for Jews in the UK, but because similar incidents are happening now. Recent cases include a knifeman running into a kosher shop and attacking Jews. He walked home after court.
And last month a huge mob terrified people inside a restaurant in West London with Israeli connections. The police stood and watched (and have subsequently apologised for their refusal to act). A convoy of cars drove through Jewish areas in north west London screaming “F--- the Jews, rape their daughters”. No one was prosecuted. And that’s not even to mention the hate spread in mosques, when no action is taken.
After any incident politicians mouth the ludicrous mantra, there is no place for antisemitism on the streets of Britain, when the evidence shows there is a very welcome place for it here. It may be that it’s now over for Jews in Britain. |
I'm not sure I follow his logic regarding the motivation. Palestine Action have targeted many different places in the UK; Elbit Systems is obviously an Israeli company, but most of the others they've targeted are not. The common denominator seems to be they're focussing on places offering military support to Israel. I could have that wrong - maybe some or all of PA are driven by antisemitism too, but I don't think this article convinces me that's the case at all.
Notwithstanding that, I think it's disgusting that there's no accountability for them attacking and seriously injuring the police officer (or anyone; it should matter who's attacked). I don't know the ins and outs of the charges and why they haven't faced lengthy prison spells over that part of it. I'm less sympathetic of the property of companies (or governments) profiteering off the supply of weapons being used to ethnically cleanse a population though. |  |
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| Palestine Action on 12:06 - Feb 5 with 418 views | Jon_456 |
Would love to see some of the responses if this was a far right group who had broken a police officers spine with a sledgehammer. Unsurprising to see the usual posters defending this attack because it supports their political views.
Why is it so difficult for some to support PA and what they stand for, whilst also condemning aggressive/violent behaviour?
Hopefully some of those non verdicts are retried and punished sufficiently for their actions. |  | | |
| Palestine Action on 12:27 - Feb 5 with 384 views | vapour_trail |
| Palestine Action on 12:06 - Feb 5 by Jon_456 |
Would love to see some of the responses if this was a far right group who had broken a police officers spine with a sledgehammer. Unsurprising to see the usual posters defending this attack because it supports their political views.
Why is it so difficult for some to support PA and what they stand for, whilst also condemning aggressive/violent behaviour?
Hopefully some of those non verdicts are retried and punished sufficiently for their actions. |
Alright Jon (got a new motor?),
Do us a favour and post links to all of the ‘usual posters defending this attack’
Thanks in advance. | |
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| Palestine Action on 14:09 - Feb 5 with 311 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Palestine Action on 11:37 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue |
You didn't read the article did you. No one said that.
The point bering made is you can literally break the spine of a policewoman with a sledgehammer 'because of Palestine' and go free.
You can drive round Jewish parts of London for *hours* screaming "Fcuk the Jews, rape their daughters" 'because of Palestine' and not be apprehended by police or prosecuted when identified.
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/d
You can storm into a kosher supermarket with a knife and attack Jews 'because of Palestine' and face no hate crime charges or custodial sentence.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/
You can call for the destruction of Jewish homes and curse Jews and face no charges, let alone hate crime charges 'because of Palestine'.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
You can assault and terrify Jewish restaurant, synagogue and community centre-goers with impunity 'because of Palestine'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/
So in isolation, no the attack was not anti semitic. But taken with the other examples I've linked then there is a clear pattern that you can get away with antisemitism using the 'but Palestine' line. British Jews know what yesterday's verdict means for them.
edit. I think this reply alos covers Steve M's and Swanners point. [Post edited 5 Feb 11:52]
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