| Anas Sarwar, Labour leader in Scotland 13:34 - Feb 9 with 9024 views | GlasgowBlue |
About to call for Starmer to resign. He'll be gone with days imo [Post edited 12 Feb 10:57]
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:27 - Feb 9 with 676 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:26 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
Football - correct.
Politics - incorrect. It didn't have to be Corbyn. Just needs someone with principles like that.
Sometimes life is black and white. This government was always doomed because of it's character imo. |
I believe Starmer has principles. His politics just differ from yours. | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:28 - Feb 9 with 675 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:25 - Feb 9 by Swansea_Blue |
I don’t think his Brexit position was much of a factor, even if people moaned about a lot. If it was, wouldn’t the LDs have picked up a lot more than they did? They had a slight uptick in 2019 but were still well down on where they were before their 2015 collapse. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but it didn’t change my vote. A lot of people held their noses and stuck with him because Labour were the realistic option to the horrific Tories in 2019. |
It was Brexit election though. He was screwed as soon as they forced the second referendum on him. And that's before considering the press and wrecking.
Ah well. It's all history now. |  | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:28 - Feb 9 with 673 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:27 - Feb 9 by GlasgowBlue |
I believe Starmer has principles. His politics just differ from yours. |
What are Starmer's principles. | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:30 - Feb 9 with 669 views | itfcjoe |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:14 - Feb 9 by GlasgowBlue |
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Wes is going to end up upsetting the whole party soon enough, he needs to sh!t or get off the pot - there will never be a perfect time for his leadership challenge so do it or don’t |  |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:32 - Feb 9 with 650 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:28 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
What are Starmer's principles. |
I think he is honest, wants cleaner politics after what we saw in the Johnson govt, a functioning health service, a secure Britain and a fairer and more equal society.
His principles are probably not that much different from most Labour MPS. His method of delivery may be diffent to some in the Labour party. | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:32 - Feb 9 with 650 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 17:24 - Feb 9 by GlasgowBlue |
This year's James Purnell. Ironically, had Labour MP's followed Purnell over the top in 2009 Labour may well have won the 2010 election.
Labour have always lacked the ruthlessness of the Tories when it comes to committing regicide. |
Looks like another twist with Sawar and Streeting
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:34 - Feb 9 with 635 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 17:40 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
Governments collapse.
How will they make it to 2029? There is no political ability in the party. They've all been hand selected by Mandelson because of compliance! They are all cut from the same cloth. |
All of Starmer’s Govt were hand picked by Mandelson?! | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:37 - Feb 9 with 612 views | positivity |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:30 - Feb 9 by itfcjoe |
Wes is going to end up upsetting the whole party soon enough, he needs to sh!t or get off the pot - there will never be a perfect time for his leadership challenge so do it or don’t |
disagree, it's probably the worst time to challenge starmer.
if starmer went due to links with mandelson, then streeting is more damaged on that front |  |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:39 - Feb 9 with 592 views | itfcjoe |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:37 - Feb 9 by positivity |
disagree, it's probably the worst time to challenge starmer.
if starmer went due to links with mandelson, then streeting is more damaged on that front |
I’d agree, but then he just needs to keep his head down and focussed on his brief | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:39 - Feb 9 with 590 views | positivity |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:34 - Feb 9 by ElderGrizzly |
All of Starmer’s Govt were hand picked by Mandelson?! |
mandelson has acquired omnipotent powers for opponents of labour!
mandelson derangement sydrome? | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:39 - Feb 9 with 583 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:27 - Feb 9 by itfcjoe |
Firstly, Starmer’s handling of global affairs has generally been seen as a success by all and sundry even if a lot else hasn’t been great
Secondly, I haven’t spoken about navel gazing from ‘far left’ members. I’m taking above navel gazing and a massive distraction when lots else going on; and that the membership are to the left of the electorate |
I'm afraid I can't agree on your first point at all. He's more interested in the photo calls of international politics than sorting out domestic issues yes, but a success?!!
The press tried to sell thaec success narrative with the Trump wooing (wasn't it clever to give him the letter from the palace - genius!). That (and the special relationship) blew up in his face. We now look quite isolated. He's just made us more of a US vassal state. He's aided and supported a genocide. Which alone is a huge error of judgement.
As to second point, you can't keep a failing PM who is not capable of the job in charge just because there's lots else going on. It's not the boss of a company, it's the PM. | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:40 - Feb 9 with 579 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:39 - Feb 9 by positivity |
mandelson has acquired omnipotent powers for opponents of labour!
mandelson derangement sydrome? |
Excalibur spreadsheet. | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:43 - Feb 9 with 567 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:32 - Feb 9 by GlasgowBlue |
I think he is honest, wants cleaner politics after what we saw in the Johnson govt, a functioning health service, a secure Britain and a fairer and more equal society.
His principles are probably not that much different from most Labour MPS. His method of delivery may be diffent to some in the Labour party. |
I can't that seriously I'm afraid. Look up virtually anything he's said and he's said the opposite.
The man is a serial liar!
Method of delivery is doing some heavy lifting. | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:44 - Feb 9 with 556 views | positivity |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:40 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
Excalibur spreadsheet. |
that's your smoking gun? q-anon levels of gibberish! | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:45 - Feb 9 with 554 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:28 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
It was Brexit election though. He was screwed as soon as they forced the second referendum on him. And that's before considering the press and wrecking.
Ah well. It's all history now. |
True, it was. I hope it’s history. I don’t want to experience another referendum as long as I live! |  |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:48 - Feb 9 with 539 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:14 - Feb 9 by GlasgowBlue |
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FFS. The country’s still in a mess and as fractured as ever and we’ve got another party that keeps wanting to tear itself apart rather than do their job.
Just. Fkn. Govern!! 
Sorry, rant over. | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:49 - Feb 9 with 521 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:44 - Feb 9 by positivity |
that's your smoking gun? q-anon levels of gibberish! |
No, if you read up on it, he was given access by Mcsweeney etc al to spreadsheet to vet and select Labour candidates for 2024 election. Reported by mainstream journalists.
A copy of the Excalibur database he set up during early New Labour years. | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:14 - Feb 9 with 455 views | positivity |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:49 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
No, if you read up on it, he was given access by Mcsweeney etc al to spreadsheet to vet and select Labour candidates for 2024 election. Reported by mainstream journalists.
A copy of the Excalibur database he set up during early New Labour years. |
and he has the power to select 650 candidates just because he had access to a database!!!
that's as sensible as saying corbyn blocked all jewish labour candidates, because of his friends in hamas! | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:16 - Feb 9 with 446 views | positivity |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 18:39 - Feb 9 by itfcjoe |
I’d agree, but then he just needs to keep his head down and focussed on his brief |
i'm guessing he probably is, more likely that mcsweeney is making one last bit of trouble on his way out.
you'd have to be mad to use this moment to make your move! | |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:22 - Feb 9 with 427 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:14 - Feb 9 by positivity |
and he has the power to select 650 candidates just because he had access to a database!!!
that's as sensible as saying corbyn blocked all jewish labour candidates, because of his friends in hamas! |
Mandelson had huge amount of input into the selection of Labour parliamentary candidates. It's just the truth.
They stitched up the selection process.
You don't think Mandelson was approving candidates? | | | |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:26 - Feb 9 with 402 views | lowhouseblue |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:22 - Feb 9 by jasondozzell |
Mandelson had huge amount of input into the selection of Labour parliamentary candidates. It's just the truth.
They stitched up the selection process.
You don't think Mandelson was approving candidates? |
and your evidence for this "truth" ....? it must be pretty indisputable and overwhelming given your certainty. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:34 - Feb 9 with 361 views | lowhouseblue |
so one newspaper article, one "whistleblower", and claim emphatically denied by party. aren't newspapers supposed to have at least two sources to make a claim stand up?
and do you believe every claim if it fits your agenda? | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Anas Sarwar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:36 - Feb 9 with 354 views | WeWereZombies |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 17:11 - Feb 9 by hype313 |
They have, he's bang to rights on poor judgment at best, employing someone who was visiting a known pedo, despite several warnings against.
It's pretty black and white.
Imagine the uproar if this was the Tories, I mean the country nearly erupted over a slice of cake. [Post edited 9 Feb 17:12]
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Starmer mentioned the victims a number of times during Prime Minister's questions last Wednesday, I don't recall Badenoch referencing them once.
[edit: thread title corrected for misspelling] [Post edited 11 Feb 8:36]
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| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:39 - Feb 9 with 343 views | jasondozzell |
| Anas Sawar, Labour leader in Scotland on 19:34 - Feb 9 by lowhouseblue |
so one newspaper article, one "whistleblower", and claim emphatically denied by party. aren't newspapers supposed to have at least two sources to make a claim stand up?
and do you believe every claim if it fits your agenda? |
There's no helping you!
Plenty of other journalists have reported it.
Mandelson was all over the Starmer/Mcsweeney project. You think he didn't have a say in the selection of candidates?
Michael Crick very good on the anti democratic nature of the selections by the way. | | | |
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