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Protect our women and girls they scream 12:25 - Feb 15 with 5000 viewsMullet

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Even the Mail mob are disgusted by this in the comments, and rightly so. It’s absolutely baffling how this grift is still going, especially since the Epstein files leak showing Farage et al as willing lsckies for Bannon, Putin et al.

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:33 - Feb 17 with 559 viewsHerbivore

Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:17 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

Whilst those are all fair questions to ask betters, may I just make one correction. Farage has said that he would prefer an insurance based health care system based in a European model rather than that of the USA. European systems such as the Dutch model have safety nets for the low paid and unemployed so that they receive the same service as those who can afford to pay. And the premiums are at a similar level to the taxation and NI payments we make that go to the NHS.

We need to get away from this argument that it is a binary choice between the NHS or the dreadful US system.


Farage also said he supported a Norway style arrangement with the EU until leave actually won the referendum. I'd urge extreme caution in believing anything that comes out of that man's mouth. Look at where a lot of his and his party's support is coming from, it's not much of a stretch to think he'd end up favouring more of a US style model. Especially if it meant wealthy US firms with vested interests chucking some cash his way. That's who he is, he's shown us enough times that people really should believe it at this point.

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:42 - Feb 17 with 526 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:17 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

Whilst those are all fair questions to ask betters, may I just make one correction. Farage has said that he would prefer an insurance based health care system based in a European model rather than that of the USA. European systems such as the Dutch model have safety nets for the low paid and unemployed so that they receive the same service as those who can afford to pay. And the premiums are at a similar level to the taxation and NI payments we make that go to the NHS.

We need to get away from this argument that it is a binary choice between the NHS or the dreadful US system.


So let me get this straight...

Farage is proposing a system where Refugees and Asylum Seekers would get totally free healthcare, but hard-working people who have lived here all their lives would have to pay for it?

Benters, is that what you are voting for?
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Protect our women and girls they scream on 12:40 - Feb 17 with 426 viewsGlasgowBlue

Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:27 - Feb 17 by Mullet

Except it is under Farage. He’s in the pockets of the worst American scum and billionaires. He’s not talking about anything else but what he’s paid to bring in.

Let’s not pretend otherwise.


That's as may be, and it's not a defence of Farage or his character. But of we are going to have an honest debate then we can only deal in what he has said he supports. Which is a European insurance based health system.

I think a health system based in the Dutch model would be great. A health system based on the USA model would be a disaster.

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 13:03 - Feb 17 with 387 viewsHerbivore

Protect our women and girls they scream on 12:40 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

That's as may be, and it's not a defence of Farage or his character. But of we are going to have an honest debate then we can only deal in what he has said he supports. Which is a European insurance based health system.

I think a health system based in the Dutch model would be great. A health system based on the USA model would be a disaster.


Is a debate based on the words of a liar really worth having?

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 13:52 - Feb 17 with 320 viewsGlasgowBlue

Protect our women and girls they scream on 13:03 - Feb 17 by Herbivore

Is a debate based on the words of a liar really worth having?


Probably not. So what's the point of AM's line of questioning?

We are better of challenging Farage on the here and now rather than what of he did x,y or z. The racism. The corruption.
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Protect our women and girls they scream on 13:59 - Feb 17 with 294 viewsMullet

Protect our women and girls they scream on 12:40 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

That's as may be, and it's not a defence of Farage or his character. But of we are going to have an honest debate then we can only deal in what he has said he supports. Which is a European insurance based health system.

I think a health system based in the Dutch model would be great. A health system based on the USA model would be a disaster.


Not when he has a litany of actions which shows his words are meaningless. The debate should be why is he not under investigation on several fronts, but tha just shows he not like us.

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 14:03 - Feb 17 with 286 viewsHerbivore

Protect our women and girls they scream on 13:52 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

Probably not. So what's the point of AM's line of questioning?

We are better of challenging Farage on the here and now rather than what of he did x,y or z. The racism. The corruption.
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He's challenged on that a lot and it doesn't make a dent so I can understand someone wanting to try and different tack.

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Protect our women and girls they scream on 14:59 - Feb 17 with 219 viewsJ2BLUE

Protect our women and girls they scream on 10:17 - Feb 17 by GlasgowBlue

Whilst those are all fair questions to ask betters, may I just make one correction. Farage has said that he would prefer an insurance based health care system based in a European model rather than that of the USA. European systems such as the Dutch model have safety nets for the low paid and unemployed so that they receive the same service as those who can afford to pay. And the premiums are at a similar level to the taxation and NI payments we make that go to the NHS.

We need to get away from this argument that it is a binary choice between the NHS or the dreadful US system.


He's also said that manifesto promises are only aspirations so even if he includes a Dutch model in his manifesto it is essentially meaningless.

He knows they would likely only get one term in power. If the NHS is scrapped it will never return. He can do immense damage in five years.

Here's a clip where it doesn't look like he knows he is being recorded. He doesn't specify anything other than an insurance based system:


Truly impaired.
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