| Re Andrew - where does this rank? 12:51 - Feb 19 with 3046 views | nrb1985 |
I find myself on occasion thinking about the various defining global events of my life.
In chronological order, I would broadly say they were Diana, 9/11, Iraq, 2008 Financial Crisis, iPhone, Brexit…
Where does this one rank in terms of significance? While the direction of travel for Andrew has been clear for some weeks, can’t quite believe he’s been arrested.
Truly without precedent.
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 12:53 - Feb 19 with 1799 views | Zx1988 |
Not as ground-breaking as it could have been.
No doubt the Nonce's exile from The Firm was in anticipation of something like this, so as to remove the headlines that would have followed the arrest of a Prince.
Call me cynical, but it wouldn't surprise me one iota if the authorities cleared their plans with the Palace in advance. | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 12:53 - Feb 19 with 1798 views | TractorFrog |
I would add Ipswich 2 Huddersfield 0 (4th May 2024) |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 12:54 - Feb 19 with 1797 views | leitrimblue |
Gonna put it somewhere between the OJ car chase and that time Stephen Fry went missing |  | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 12:55 - Feb 19 with 1788 views | Bluish |
The Milli Vanilli scandal should be in there too. |  | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:01 - Feb 19 with 1726 views | bluelagos |
It feels like a moment, and it could evolve into a serious risk for the monarchy.
But tbh (and I say this as a republican) the majority of people are wedded to the royals. AMs behaviour is not exactly news yet most people choose to doth their cap just as they always have done.
Support for the monarchy may drop a few points but they'll cut him off and conveniently forget the years of enabling that Charlie and Lizzie did for Andrew. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:02 - Feb 19 with 1716 views | Illinoisblue |
Not sure launch of a phone is quite up there with 9/11. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:09 - Feb 19 with 1653 views | Radlett_blue |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:01 - Feb 19 by bluelagos |
It feels like a moment, and it could evolve into a serious risk for the monarchy.
But tbh (and I say this as a republican) the majority of people are wedded to the royals. AMs behaviour is not exactly news yet most people choose to doth their cap just as they always have done.
Support for the monarchy may drop a few points but they'll cut him off and conveniently forget the years of enabling that Charlie and Lizzie did for Andrew. |
The monarchy, as ever, have been slow to act & hence there has been the steady drip of bad revelations about Andrew, who was never exactly a good guy anyway. I'm sure this action has the blessing of Charles & it's a last, desperate move to try to stem the flow of stench. This process will take forever & there will now be very little comment on the basis that the matter is sub judice. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:09 - Feb 19 with 1652 views | vapour_trail |
You’ve missed the rebranding of Marathon to Snickers. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:10 - Feb 19 with 1641 views | Illinoisblue |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:09 - Feb 19 by vapour_trail |
You’ve missed the rebranding of Marathon to Snickers. |
Opal Fruits to Starburst, too. We have lived history. | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:15 - Feb 19 with 1600 views | WeWereZombies |
You have had a few dismissive responses but, for all that they are warranted, to add a note of seriousness:
Gaza casualties post 7th October, 2003 79,000 according to Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli 1,195 on the day plus 829 subsequent military deaths.
Russian invasion of Ukraine: 15,000 Ukrainian civilians and 140,000 Ukrainian military, 1,368 Russian civilians and between 288,000 and 409,000 Russian military
Sudan civil war since 2023 - over 150,000 civilian deaths according to Le Monde
Tigray (Ethiopia) uprising 2023 between 167,000 and 378,000 estimated killed but could be as high as 600,000
COVID 7,110,148 deaths reported but 18.2 million to 33.5 million estimated. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:18 - Feb 19 with 1563 views | wischip |
For me, it's above the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident but below the 4-2 win v Barnsley at Wembley. |  | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:19 - Feb 19 with 1554 views | homer_123 |
Not as high as Topics being discontinued or Branigan's Beef Crisps. |  |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:20 - Feb 19 with 1543 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:02 - Feb 19 by Illinoisblue |
Not sure launch of a phone is quite up there with 9/11. |
Couldn't disagree more - the advent of the smartphone has had an extraordinarily transformative effect on most people's lives I'd argue - often not for the better. | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:20 - Feb 19 with 1531 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:09 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
The monarchy, as ever, have been slow to act & hence there has been the steady drip of bad revelations about Andrew, who was never exactly a good guy anyway. I'm sure this action has the blessing of Charles & it's a last, desperate move to try to stem the flow of stench. This process will take forever & there will now be very little comment on the basis that the matter is sub judice. |
Why have you down voted my original post out of interest?! | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:21 - Feb 19 with 1529 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:19 - Feb 19 by homer_123 |
Not as high as Topics being discontinued or Branigan's Beef Crisps. |
or the closure of Brannigans bar and club.
Somebody please tell me liquid nightclub is still there though? | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:22 - Feb 19 with 1507 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 12:53 - Feb 19 by TractorFrog |
I would add Ipswich 2 Huddersfield 0 (4th May 2024) |
Or Ipswich 2-1 vs. Huddersfield, Stewart last min winner. | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:30 - Feb 19 with 1456 views | Illinoisblue |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:20 - Feb 19 by nrb1985 |
Couldn't disagree more - the advent of the smartphone has had an extraordinarily transformative effect on most people's lives I'd argue - often not for the better. |
Significant for sure in terms of how people consume content and together with the rise of social media an undeniable shift in society. But not remotely on a par with a terrorist attack on American soil.
Perhaps we need different categories to group things better. | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:32 - Feb 19 with 1428 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I think it depends on how you define such moments. In terms of impact to myself, probably miniscule. In terms of broader impact to society, maybe a bit, but I would argue the case against Saville and Operation Yewtree had a greater impact. Truly ground breaking in giving a voice to victims and highlighting such offences. |  | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:36 - Feb 19 with 1401 views | Zx1988 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:09 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
The monarchy, as ever, have been slow to act & hence there has been the steady drip of bad revelations about Andrew, who was never exactly a good guy anyway. I'm sure this action has the blessing of Charles & it's a last, desperate move to try to stem the flow of stench. This process will take forever & there will now be very little comment on the basis that the matter is sub judice. |
That's a very good point regarding the whole matter being sub-judice.
How incredibly convenient that the arrest of Andrew will now prevent pretty much any more reporting on his shady affairs.
I wonder if it would be possible to keep any investigation rattling on for years, purely with the intent of shutting up the press? | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:37 - Feb 19 with 1381 views | Radlett_blue |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:20 - Feb 19 by nrb1985 |
Why have you down voted my original post out of interest?! |
because the arrest of a hanger-on like Andrew, who has long been known to be a dubious character, was hardly seismic news. | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:40 - Feb 19 with 1343 views | Illinoisblue |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:37 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
because the arrest of a hanger-on like Andrew, who has long been known to be a dubious character, was hardly seismic news. |
First Royal arrested in over 400 years is kind of a big deal. | |
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:41 - Feb 19 with 1335 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:37 - Feb 19 by Radlett_blue |
because the arrest of a hanger-on like Andrew, who has long been known to be a dubious character, was hardly seismic news. |
You don't think the queen's son and the monarch's brother being arrested is of great significance?
I think this could ultimately end up being their undoing personally - maybe not today or tomorrow but this will have fairly seismic repercussions, especially if it comes out they knew and enabled him.
That against a backdrop of all time low levels of support for the monarchy, especially among Gen Z. [Post edited 19 Feb 13:43]
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| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:42 - Feb 19 with 1322 views | glasso |
How are you defining 'moments', though?
The iPhone has had a huge impact with hindsight, but I don't remember it being a 'moment' in the sense that it dominated news cycles for weeks and was constantly at the forefront of everybody's minds.
Diana, 9/11 etc. I don't think anybody talked about anything else for about a week afterwards (maybe more). The iPhone was just a new thing that came out and some people went and bought.
It was more a slow-drip than a 'moment,' imo. | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:44 - Feb 19 with 1298 views | nrb1985 |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:42 - Feb 19 by glasso |
How are you defining 'moments', though?
The iPhone has had a huge impact with hindsight, but I don't remember it being a 'moment' in the sense that it dominated news cycles for weeks and was constantly at the forefront of everybody's minds.
Diana, 9/11 etc. I don't think anybody talked about anything else for about a week afterwards (maybe more). The iPhone was just a new thing that came out and some people went and bought.
It was more a slow-drip than a 'moment,' imo. |
Yes good point.
I think though, as per my post a moment ago, the extent to which it's changed our lives in the years subsequent is what I was getting at. | | | |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:47 - Feb 19 with 1273 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Re Andrew - where does this rank? on 13:21 - Feb 19 by nrb1985 |
or the closure of Brannigans bar and club.
Somebody please tell me liquid nightclub is still there though? |
It’s a little bit different
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