| Why is uk football mostly boring ? 21:56 - Mar 13 with 570 views | eddiespearitt03 |
Momentum going forward then suddenly stops and passes it backwards.
Getting the ball to the flank ready for a cross, only to pass it backwards.
In a position to shoot or the ball set up for a shot on goal, once again the hesitation and negativity.
Having wasted journeys to away games i feel championship to League Two football is mostly negative.
Tonight i struggled to watch some of the Wrexham v Swansea game and a part of the Colchester 0-0 bore draw.
What has happened to our national game ? It used to be far more entertaining.
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:05 - Mar 13 with 523 views | Swansea_Blue |
I think that best describes the over-coached thing people were talking about on here the other day. The players are so conditioned to play in a way that statistically produces the better outcome. Recycling possession backwards is seen as preferable to a riskier ball and losing possession. It’s a bit like the percentage golf principle (don’t take risky shots).
Yeah, it makes for boring and predictable play. It’s formulaic and all out of the same training manual. |  |
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:05 - Mar 13 with 521 views | Garv |
Like it or not, it's the way to win (more often than not). There's a reason all teams do it, because it's the best way to keep balance between attack and defence.
And the underlying reason is that football is too important now. It's no longer just entertainment, it's pressure (from the stands and also social media), the money involved, expectation etc.
Same reason VAR exists and the same reason players openly cheat. |  |
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:12 - Mar 13 with 485 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:05 - Mar 13 by Garv |
Like it or not, it's the way to win (more often than not). There's a reason all teams do it, because it's the best way to keep balance between attack and defence.
And the underlying reason is that football is too important now. It's no longer just entertainment, it's pressure (from the stands and also social media), the money involved, expectation etc.
Same reason VAR exists and the same reason players openly cheat. |
But is it? If everyone’s playing the same way, that way is going to be more successful. I’ve forgotten the team, but there was an excellent video about a foreign side who have completely ripped up the training manual and are playing unpredictable patterns of play. They’re flying. | |
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 23:09 - Mar 13 with 379 views | Sharkey |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:05 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
I think that best describes the over-coached thing people were talking about on here the other day. The players are so conditioned to play in a way that statistically produces the better outcome. Recycling possession backwards is seen as preferable to a riskier ball and losing possession. It’s a bit like the percentage golf principle (don’t take risky shots).
Yeah, it makes for boring and predictable play. It’s formulaic and all out of the same training manual. |
I was at the Colchester game. The most interesting things about it were...
1. Sizeable groups of Odense fans, 1 Union Berlin fans and a busload of Americans. The Danes and the Germans were on long football weekends.
2. Crawley defended a whole series of corners in a 5-minute period towards the end of the game. Crawley left three players on the half-way line for all of them. Made the corners very much more interesting, because any hacked clearance would have spelt big trouble for Colchester. Nice to see a manager do this,and stick to it through a whole series of corners. |  | | |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 00:27 - Mar 14 with 311 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:05 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
I think that best describes the over-coached thing people were talking about on here the other day. The players are so conditioned to play in a way that statistically produces the better outcome. Recycling possession backwards is seen as preferable to a riskier ball and losing possession. It’s a bit like the percentage golf principle (don’t take risky shots).
Yeah, it makes for boring and predictable play. It’s formulaic and all out of the same training manual. |
Exactly what I've been saying for quite some time over on the site in posts, with a mixed reception. Some agree, some don't. All I can say is this, I first watched a live football match in 1963, and over the years but particularly over the last decade or so, it's all become far more robotic, formulaic, predictable and frankly at times, boring. I think most of those who don't agree with these sentiments are of a younger generation and have far fewer examples to choose from. Coaches largely come out of the same school(s) of coaching. The sensible and wise will put their own ideas in place, having learned the basics, unfortunately it seems many don't. It's football by page turning ( of the manual ). | | | |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 07:24 - Mar 14 with 213 views | Blue_Uprising |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 00:27 - Mar 14 by armchaircritic59 |
Exactly what I've been saying for quite some time over on the site in posts, with a mixed reception. Some agree, some don't. All I can say is this, I first watched a live football match in 1963, and over the years but particularly over the last decade or so, it's all become far more robotic, formulaic, predictable and frankly at times, boring. I think most of those who don't agree with these sentiments are of a younger generation and have far fewer examples to choose from. Coaches largely come out of the same school(s) of coaching. The sensible and wise will put their own ideas in place, having learned the basics, unfortunately it seems many don't. It's football by page turning ( of the manual ). |
I feel that the noughties was probably peak football for me in the UK premier league.
Much improved skill. Better team tactics. But a good mix between coached tactics and individual flair. Still room for some hard tackles.
It resulted in a lot of characters on the pitch and in the game. Which in turn led to a lot of emotional engagement. I feel there were so many iconic players in that time because you could get swept up in different players play styles, their personas, and personal battles all over the pitch. Games results hinged more on personal flair standing out (certainly those were moments that you remember and got replayed time and time again)
Unfortunately a lot of that had exited stage left. The quality of close passing and some of the team goals today are insane. But I really long for the flair of Cantonas, Yeboahs, Berkgkamps, Henry, Rooney, Van persie etc etc etc
Also some of the enforcers - oh how we miss the likes of Thomas Gravesen lol
Typical ramblings of the middle aged. But I really feel we lost something great.
Thank god for PSG I hope they win the champs league again. I know it’s all horrible money, but at least they play with abandon. |  | | |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 07:28 - Mar 14 with 199 views | lazyblue |
The golf theory is correct, playing Purdis today and if I play sensible within myself, lay up etc I will score ok but I will attack the flag and miss the greens and drive as hard as I can in to the trees and score crap (again). | | | |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 08:15 - Mar 14 with 138 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Because, like it or not, that's the way football is played now. At all levels.
I find it really difficult to understand why people don't get that.
The game has evolved again with the latest tactic.
See Wing Forwards, 4-4-2, Sweeper Keepers, Offside Traps, Christmas Tree Formations, 2-3-5 formations, Kick and Rush.
At some point, someone will stumble on a new tactic that wins a couple of trophies and it'll all change again. |  |
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 08:32 - Mar 14 with 95 views | HighgateBlue |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 07:28 - Mar 14 by lazyblue |
The golf theory is correct, playing Purdis today and if I play sensible within myself, lay up etc I will score ok but I will attack the flag and miss the greens and drive as hard as I can in to the trees and score crap (again). |
To continue the analogy from other sports, watching the Cheltenham this last week, as always, you have top ex-jockeys like Ruby Walsh discussing attacking fences/hurdles and really riding 'on the edge'. Going fast and low over hurdles means that you retain maximum momentum, but of course leaves a greater chance of things ending very badly if things go slightly wrong. Top jockeys like that often say that to be a champion you have to ride on the edge like that.
Similarly in cricket, the Aussies have been saying for years (and I recall Shane Warne talking about this a lot) that you have to be prepared to lose, to win. Meaning, you have to risk losing it all, in order to post that great total. Or dangle a carrot by declaring, and back your bowlers to take those wickets aggressively, rather than playing safe and settling for a draw.
We sometimes seem to have the worst of both worlds, in that we attack slowly and ponderously, and still manage to leave ourselves open at the back. The number of times you see opponents camping out in their box, with us laying a sort of slow and ineffective siege to their goal, and then they win the ball and hit us on the break.
I know we're doing OK in the league in the grand scheme of things, and our goal difference is really very good. So I'm not saying that this is a massive problem, and I don't know what the answer is. Kieran is never going to be a 'devil may care' manager, and teams will often sit deep against the better sides. Maybe the only answer for us is just to acquire a more clinical finisher so that we have fewer of those frustrating games. Scoring early may also prevent really really poor refereeing decisions having such an impact at the death.
Anyway, onwards and upwards. Three points today, surely? |  | | |
| I think most fans do get that on 08:43 - Mar 14 with 63 views | Dyland |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 08:15 - Mar 14 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Because, like it or not, that's the way football is played now. At all levels.
I find it really difficult to understand why people don't get that.
The game has evolved again with the latest tactic.
See Wing Forwards, 4-4-2, Sweeper Keepers, Offside Traps, Christmas Tree Formations, 2-3-5 formations, Kick and Rush.
At some point, someone will stumble on a new tactic that wins a couple of trophies and it'll all change again. |
Nonetheless, one can still bemoan the lost fun of football as blood and thunder guts n glory entertainment. Of course it would be fantastical nostalgia to suggest it was always more entertaining. As often as not it was turgid dross. But you get the point. |  |
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| Sure on 08:47 - Mar 14 with 56 views | Dyland |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:12 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
But is it? If everyone’s playing the same way, that way is going to be more successful. I’ve forgotten the team, but there was an excellent video about a foreign side who have completely ripped up the training manual and are playing unpredictable patterns of play. They’re flying. |
But again, the point is the underlying reason managers and coaches play the percentage game.
Maybe when McK goes we'll get a maverick in, that would be fun. Except the same fans moaning about boring football won't like it unless it's 100% successful. People are rather divorced from reality basically. | |
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| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 08:52 - Mar 14 with 44 views | thebooks |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:12 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
But is it? If everyone’s playing the same way, that way is going to be more successful. I’ve forgotten the team, but there was an excellent video about a foreign side who have completely ripped up the training manual and are playing unpredictable patterns of play. They’re flying. |
Como, I reckon?
My Bologna supporting friend can’t stand Serie A because it’s so sterile, and for pretty much the reasons in the OP. He reckons British football is at least more passionate. |  | | |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 09:01 - Mar 14 with 24 views | Radlett_blue |
| Why is uk football mostly boring ? on 22:12 - Mar 13 by Swansea_Blue |
But is it? If everyone’s playing the same way, that way is going to be more successful. I’ve forgotten the team, but there was an excellent video about a foreign side who have completely ripped up the training manual and are playing unpredictable patterns of play. They’re flying. |
A lot of teams cancel each other out. In his last season or so, McCarthy would usually quickly switch Town's formation to match the opposition, which resulted in the game usually being 0-0 at half time & near unwatchable. Typical, low risk strategy.
Most teams, from the top down, are well organised & quickly get 10 men behind the ball as soon as they lose possession, or the more adventurous ones try to win it back immediately. It's very hard to break down a well organised defensive unit - hence the endless recycling. Hence the most dangerous time for a team is when they're on the attack & lose the ball unexpectedly - hence the quick "tactical foul". What we are seeing more of in the PL is greater use of the early long ball, to try to set up a 1 on 1 situation somewhere in the opposition half.
The increased number of subs was a terrible idea, plus the longer half time. In the past, the game would open up in the last 30 minutes as players got tired. Not much, any more. Plus the inevitable time wasting. |  |
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