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Donald Trump, 8-Mar "That’s OK, Prime Minister Starmer, we don’t need them [ships] any longer — But we will remember. We don’t need people that join Wars after we’ve already won!""
Donald Trump, 14-Mar "Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint will send ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a nation that has been totally decapitated."
In summary, he needs our ships to protect a shipping lane against an enemy that has allegedly been defeated, a week after saying he doesn't need them.
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If you don't mind me butting in I'm more interested in where you stand on the situation in Iran and the role of Hezbollah.
Whilst I agree that war is ridiculous and going to bring more pain than it solves - see, as you say, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria - the actions of the Iranian government and their subsidiries are, in my mind, hardly representatives of peace in their own countries either? As much as the current Israeli government should be forced to stand up for their actions, having neighbours saying their intention is to wipe you off the map is hardly reassuring.
Israel being "wiped off the map" is an often quoted mistranslation. It has been recognised by the JPost as being such, but it doesn't stop supporters of Zionism to regularly trot it out as some sort of justification for expansionism in the name of "self defence".
There are plenty of excellent Jewish academics and historians who explain this fact and other aspects about the history and nature of Zionism I could link you to, if you are seriously interested in knowing the truth.
This is not the greatest link to the misquote - things of a certain nature tend to get removed from search results over time, but it offers a little extra detail to the quote:
Unfortunately mistrust and dislike between Israelis and Palestinians has been building for over 2000 years. It sounds flippant but the Star Wars quote always stays in my head - fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. It feels so apt to explain what is happening, not just in the Middle East but with Russia and Ukraine too.
I guess the US and Israel were hoping the bombing would leave to a Libyan-like revolution which would see change without boots on the ground. But they overlooked the intricate and complex make up of power in Iran, and the strength of the revoluntionary guard. To protect the regime they are ready to make things far worse, no matter the impact on the people.
"I guess the US and Israel were hoping the bombing would leave to a Libyan-like revolution which would see change without boots on the ground."
I don't follow this. The Libyans had the highest standard of living in Africa at the time and had no problem with Qaddafi . Problems in the region started with the West's introduction of al Qaeda into Libya following (but not solely because of) Qaddafi's intention to develop a pan-African gold backed currency to trade the country's oil in.
There was no Libyan-like revolution against Qaddafi.
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Israel being "wiped off the map" is an often quoted mistranslation. It has been recognised by the JPost as being such, but it doesn't stop supporters of Zionism to regularly trot it out as some sort of justification for expansionism in the name of "self defence".
There are plenty of excellent Jewish academics and historians who explain this fact and other aspects about the history and nature of Zionism I could link you to, if you are seriously interested in knowing the truth.
This is not the greatest link to the misquote - things of a certain nature tend to get removed from search results over time, but it offers a little extra detail to the quote:
The irony, first of all, is the confusion first came from the translation supplied by the IRNA. It didn't help that, like most politicians, Ahmadinejad was unable or unwilling to answer yes or not to a yes or no question - or even deny he ever said Israel should be wiped from the map.
But it played into the thought process that Iran was a live threat. And the support they give their proxies build on this too. Of course, Iran would say they're protecting their interests towards an expanionist Israel. But it feels like we're too far gone for the two to be able to sit down and discuss their issues civilly, to the detriment of those suffering in the Middle East and the wider world.
"I guess the US and Israel were hoping the bombing would leave to a Libyan-like revolution which would see change without boots on the ground."
I don't follow this. The Libyans had the highest standard of living in Africa at the time and had no problem with Qaddafi . Problems in the region started with the West's introduction of al Qaeda into Libya following (but not solely because of) Qaddafi's intention to develop a pan-African gold backed currency to trade the country's oil in.
There was no Libyan-like revolution against Qaddafi.
What I mean is there was a widespread NATO bombing campaign in Libya in the summer of 2011, which was supported by rebel forces within the country, which resulted in the rebels taking back lost territory and, eventually, Tripoli.
I assume the US and Israel were hoping the bombing would have a similar affect on Iran, in terms of the regime and the opposition.
Just to be clear, are you saying those protesting in Libya in early 2011 were al Qaeda cells rather than Libyans? Those calling for a return to original constitution and multi-party democracy?
The irony, first of all, is the confusion first came from the translation supplied by the IRNA. It didn't help that, like most politicians, Ahmadinejad was unable or unwilling to answer yes or not to a yes or no question - or even deny he ever said Israel should be wiped from the map.
But it played into the thought process that Iran was a live threat. And the support they give their proxies build on this too. Of course, Iran would say they're protecting their interests towards an expanionist Israel. But it feels like we're too far gone for the two to be able to sit down and discuss their issues civilly, to the detriment of those suffering in the Middle East and the wider world.
Good post.
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What I mean is there was a widespread NATO bombing campaign in Libya in the summer of 2011, which was supported by rebel forces within the country, which resulted in the rebels taking back lost territory and, eventually, Tripoli.
I assume the US and Israel were hoping the bombing would have a similar affect on Iran, in terms of the regime and the opposition.
Just to be clear, are you saying those protesting in Libya in early 2011 were al Qaeda cells rather than Libyans? Those calling for a return to original constitution and multi-party democracy?
You'll forgive me for not remembering all the details but Al Qaeda has functioned as the foreign legion for the US in various conflicts: Afghanistan, Libya, and more recently in Shia Muslim countries.
If my memory serves me well, they were brought into Libya as opposition to Qaddafi, and it was them that sodomised Qaddafi with a rifle bayonet to Hillary's delight.
They were also shipped into Syria to create civil war and start the false myth, frequently peddled by western news agencies and on this forum by GB, that Assad was gasing his own people.
The current leader of Syria, was captured and imprisoned by the US in 2005, after his release, he set up al Nusra Front and did the bidding of the west and Israel to out Assad. For his efforts, he now runs Syria and is a friend of the US Zionist friendly, Donald Trump.
This is all rather odd, because Jolani, despite being born in Saudi Arabia claims to have roots in Syria's Golan Heights and publicly claims to support the plight of the Palestinians, but is actually fully engaged in efforts to fight Hezbollah who are the only real resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestine.
This is all just another chapter in the tragedy of the region. The US created and armed al Qaeda, use them to destabilize any country offering resistance to Israels 80+ years of Israeli expansion. While in fact, the countries with the most vile regimes are the Gulf State Sunni family dynasties who are sold out to the west (and Israel) in exchange for US "protection" and Epstein supplied prostitutes.
Unfortunately, the poster called GB, who appears to have me confused with a previous poster (whose name I forget), believes that makes me an apologist for sponsors of terror. The truth is I am against genocide and especially the hypocritical sponsoring of it by the West including the use of head-chopping Wahabbi Sunni proxies who turn their backs on their fellow Sunnis, the Palestinians, for a life of pseudo-religious debauchery.
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You'll forgive me for not remembering all the details but Al Qaeda has functioned as the foreign legion for the US in various conflicts: Afghanistan, Libya, and more recently in Shia Muslim countries.
If my memory serves me well, they were brought into Libya as opposition to Qaddafi, and it was them that sodomised Qaddafi with a rifle bayonet to Hillary's delight.
They were also shipped into Syria to create civil war and start the false myth, frequently peddled by western news agencies and on this forum by GB, that Assad was gasing his own people.
The current leader of Syria, was captured and imprisoned by the US in 2005, after his release, he set up al Nusra Front and did the bidding of the west and Israel to out Assad. For his efforts, he now runs Syria and is a friend of the US Zionist friendly, Donald Trump.
This is all rather odd, because Jolani, despite being born in Saudi Arabia claims to have roots in Syria's Golan Heights and publicly claims to support the plight of the Palestinians, but is actually fully engaged in efforts to fight Hezbollah who are the only real resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestine.
This is all just another chapter in the tragedy of the region. The US created and armed al Qaeda, use them to destabilize any country offering resistance to Israels 80+ years of Israeli expansion. While in fact, the countries with the most vile regimes are the Gulf State Sunni family dynasties who are sold out to the west (and Israel) in exchange for US "protection" and Epstein supplied prostitutes.
Unfortunately, the poster called GB, who appears to have me confused with a previous poster (whose name I forget), believes that makes me an apologist for sponsors of terror. The truth is I am against genocide and especially the hypocritical sponsoring of it by the West including the use of head-chopping Wahabbi Sunni proxies who turn their backs on their fellow Sunnis, the Palestinians, for a life of pseudo-religious debauchery.
Thank you for replying.
I remember, post 9/11, comments being made than bin Laden had been supported by America and, as Clinton says in the first clip, they ended up having to harvest what they sowed.
It is a very fair point as well about the hypocrisy between the actions of Iran and Hezbollah compared to the likes of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE. Unless a World Cup is going to be held there. Then it may be questioned. For a bit.
The whole situation highlights the base reaction of the human race in general. Morals comes second to safery and security. Fear of the Other will always take precedence which, along with ongoing wars, also explains why, in so many countries, there is an interest and increase of support for the far right.
You'll forgive me for not remembering all the details but Al Qaeda has functioned as the foreign legion for the US in various conflicts: Afghanistan, Libya, and more recently in Shia Muslim countries.
If my memory serves me well, they were brought into Libya as opposition to Qaddafi, and it was them that sodomised Qaddafi with a rifle bayonet to Hillary's delight.
They were also shipped into Syria to create civil war and start the false myth, frequently peddled by western news agencies and on this forum by GB, that Assad was gasing his own people.
The current leader of Syria, was captured and imprisoned by the US in 2005, after his release, he set up al Nusra Front and did the bidding of the west and Israel to out Assad. For his efforts, he now runs Syria and is a friend of the US Zionist friendly, Donald Trump.
This is all rather odd, because Jolani, despite being born in Saudi Arabia claims to have roots in Syria's Golan Heights and publicly claims to support the plight of the Palestinians, but is actually fully engaged in efforts to fight Hezbollah who are the only real resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestine.
This is all just another chapter in the tragedy of the region. The US created and armed al Qaeda, use them to destabilize any country offering resistance to Israels 80+ years of Israeli expansion. While in fact, the countries with the most vile regimes are the Gulf State Sunni family dynasties who are sold out to the west (and Israel) in exchange for US "protection" and Epstein supplied prostitutes.
Unfortunately, the poster called GB, who appears to have me confused with a previous poster (whose name I forget), believes that makes me an apologist for sponsors of terror. The truth is I am against genocide and especially the hypocritical sponsoring of it by the West including the use of head-chopping Wahabbi Sunni proxies who turn their backs on their fellow Sunnis, the Palestinians, for a life of pseudo-religious debauchery.
“Shipped into Syria to create civil war and start the false myth, frequently peddled by western news agencies”
Why are you constantly posting lies, the use of chemical weapons has been attributed to Assad’s armed forces in 96pc of the attacks and investigated and confirmed by the OPCW which is funded by the UN.
“Syrian Arab Air Forces were identified as the perpetrators of a 2016 chemical attack in Kafr Zeita. For the first time, Syria cooperates with an OPCW Investigation and Identification Team’s investigation and provides full access to the country, information, and documentation relevant to the incident”
I'll ignore the libelous claptrap you've just spewed out. You are utterly unhinged and going back on the div list as giving you the oxygen of my attention has made you even more unbearable than before.
But before I do I have ask you one question. What is this obsession you have with darts? I don't watch darts. Where have you got this weird tackle from?
edit. And I had this avatar long before the joint attack by Israel and USA. Since the theocracy started slaughtering their citizens back in January. Even before the true extent of the numbers were known. I also advocated against either the USA or Israel taking action. But don't let truth get in the way of your libelous rant.
" I also advocated against either the USA or Israel taking action."
Well, that really is significant. What reasons exactly did the war criminal Netanyahu and Epstein pervert Trump give you for their decision to go ahead with the war against your principled advocacy?
The fact that you persist with that disgusting avatar is unconscionable after the double-tap slaughter of 170 seven to eleven-year-old schoolgirls on day 1 of this illegal war.
It's sickening yet you so often seem unaware of your inhumanity until "a good poster" points out how unbelievably misguided and ignorant you are.
[Post edited 22 Mar 21:19]
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“Shipped into Syria to create civil war and start the false myth, frequently peddled by western news agencies”
Why are you constantly posting lies, the use of chemical weapons has been attributed to Assad’s armed forces in 96pc of the attacks and investigated and confirmed by the OPCW which is funded by the UN.
“Syrian Arab Air Forces were identified as the perpetrators of a 2016 chemical attack in Kafr Zeita. For the first time, Syria cooperates with an OPCW Investigation and Identification Team’s investigation and provides full access to the country, information, and documentation relevant to the incident”
I'm not posting lies.
It seems odd that a strong supporter of Israel should be so flexible when it comes to UN agencies and who they fund. I guess it's a body you can dismiss in the case of UNWRA and then support when the OPCW call in a way that supports Western agenda.
Carla del Ponte, working for the UN Commission, said that all evidence pointed towards the Syrian Rebels for the attack immediately prior to the visit of UN representatives to Damascas. Unfortunately, this did not fit with what the US, Britain, France, Germany and Israel wanted.
In 2017 Mrs del Ponte resigned from her role at the UN Commission because she felt the organisation were powerless to prosecute war crimes (on both sides of the conflict).
EDIT And while you're getting an education, can you tell me which country used chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran war, which European country provided those weapons, at whose behest, and how many innocent people from which country were affected by the attack?
[Post edited 22 Mar 21:31]
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It seems odd that a strong supporter of Israel should be so flexible when it comes to UN agencies and who they fund. I guess it's a body you can dismiss in the case of UNWRA and then support when the OPCW call in a way that supports Western agenda.
Carla del Ponte, working for the UN Commission, said that all evidence pointed towards the Syrian Rebels for the attack immediately prior to the visit of UN representatives to Damascas. Unfortunately, this did not fit with what the US, Britain, France, Germany and Israel wanted.
In 2017 Mrs del Ponte resigned from her role at the UN Commission because she felt the organisation were powerless to prosecute war crimes (on both sides of the conflict).
EDIT And while you're getting an education, can you tell me which country used chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran war, which European country provided those weapons, at whose behest, and how many innocent people from which country were affected by the attack?
[Post edited 22 Mar 21:31]
I’ll give £100 to charity if you can find a post where I’ve cast doubt on the UNHRW. In fact I’ve frequently sourced them.
So don’t beat about the bush, are you saying the OPCW investigations and reports are fabricated? You have the opinion of one person versus an entire organisation who’ve been out on the ground collecting evidence, and even working to ensure Assad destroyed his remaining stocks.
I’ll give £100 to charity if you can find a post where I’ve cast doubt on the UNHRW. In fact I’ve frequently sourced them.
So don’t beat about the bush, are you saying the OPCW investigations and reports are fabricated? You have the opinion of one person versus an entire organisation who’ve been out on the ground collecting evidence, and even working to ensure Assad destroyed his remaining stocks.
“She added that "everyone in Syria is on the bad side. The [Bashar al-] Assad government has perpetrated horrible crimes against humanity and used chemical weapons. And the opposition is now made up of extremists and terrorists".
So you did lie because she also said Assad used them. And yes I agree that the new regime is extremists, but I wouldn’t turn out to defend either - does it pay well?
“She added that "everyone in Syria is on the bad side. The [Bashar al-] Assad government has perpetrated horrible crimes against humanity and used chemical weapons. And the opposition is now made up of extremists and terrorists".
So you did lie because she also said Assad used them. And yes I agree that the new regime is extremists, but I wouldn’t turn out to defend either - does it pay well?
This posters comes out with some really CILly stuff.
Imagine being so low in the food chain that the Kremlin sends to you troll on a Championship football team's message board on behalf of its theocratic allies.
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I’ll give £100 to charity if you can find a post where I’ve cast doubt on the UNHRW. In fact I’ve frequently sourced them.
So don’t beat about the bush, are you saying the OPCW investigations and reports are fabricated? You have the opinion of one person versus an entire organisation who’ve been out on the ground collecting evidence, and even working to ensure Assad destroyed his remaining stocks.
So don't beat around the bush, do you think these international agencies are always balanced or their resolutions effective?
Shed some light on UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) for me, will you? Also, which country is defying the expectations and directives of two main international bodies: the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the broader UN non‑proliferation framework? Who boycotts the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW) and votes against related UN resolutions?
And finally, here are the answers to my previous questions:
Which country used chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran war - IRAQ Which European country provided those weapons: Most of them over the 8-year war by GERMANY At whose behest: the weak coalition headed by the USA How many innocent people from which country were affected by the attack? Hundreds of thousands were killed or injured.
Has Israel been punished for their non-compliance regarding their development and holding of nuclear weapons? - Nope
Was Germany sanctioned for providing chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran War? - Nope
Are any of these international bodies seen as honest brokers when they apply rules which we expect others to conform to, while not conforming ourselves?
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He never has been doing it for the Iranian people. I doubt he even knows why he's doing it. The Iranian regime doesn't care how hard he hits the energy plants. They have always had a scorched earth policy.
Neither Trump or the Iranian regime care about the Iranian people.
[Post edited 22 Mar 15:01]
Apologies for putting an Iranian point of view in a thread about Iran
edit. For those not on Twitter
Mr. President, @realDonaldTrump
The Islamic Republic is a terrorist regime. It has made one thing brutally clear: the lives of its own people mean nothing to it.
It kills them. Then it demands money from their families to return their bodies. And if those families dare to grieve, dare to demand justice, they are threatened with gang rape and then arrested.
For years, I have said clearly: the Islamic Republic is not a normal government. It is a terrorist occupying force that will only respond to strength and decisive pressure.
But with the reported 48-hour ultimatum regarding the Strait of Hormuz, I feel a moral and patriotic duty to issue a critical warning:
Targeting Iran’s power plants and civilian infrastructure does not weaken the regime. It punishes the Iranian people.
A nationwide blackout in Iran would hand the regime exactly what it wants, a propaganda victory. The IRGC thrives on blaming foreign enemies for the suffering it has created, redirecting public anger away from itself.
It would also put millions of civilians at risk. Power outages mean hospitals shut down, water systems fail, and ordinary people who are already struggling under extreme economic pressure are pushed further into crisis.
And it would weaken the very people standing up to this regime. A population fighting for basic survival in darkness and desperation has far less capacity to organize, protest, and resist.
If the goal is deterrence or disabling the regime, then the target set must be clear and precise: IRGC command centers, missile infrastructure, and the regime’s security and repression apparatus.
Disable the regime’s war machine, not the lives of the Iranian people.
The Islamic Republic has held Iran hostage for decades. At this critical moment, do not allow it to use our national infrastructure as a shield for its survival.
The objective must be the liberation of Iran, not its destruction. #Iran💔
[Post edited 22 Mar 22:00]
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So don't beat around the bush, do you think these international agencies are always balanced or their resolutions effective?
Shed some light on UN Security Council Resolution 242 (1967) for me, will you? Also, which country is defying the expectations and directives of two main international bodies: the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the broader UN non‑proliferation framework? Who boycotts the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW) and votes against related UN resolutions?
And finally, here are the answers to my previous questions:
Which country used chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran war - IRAQ Which European country provided those weapons: Most of them over the 8-year war by GERMANY At whose behest: the weak coalition headed by the USA How many innocent people from which country were affected by the attack? Hundreds of thousands were killed or injured.
Has Israel been punished for their non-compliance regarding their development and holding of nuclear weapons? - Nope
Was Germany sanctioned for providing chemical weapons in the Iraq / Iran War? - Nope
Are any of these international bodies seen as honest brokers when they apply rules which we expect others to conform to, while not conforming ourselves?
You said Assad gassing his people was a myth, ironically your own source showed you to be wrong. Are you saying the OPCW lying about their investigation into Assad?
This posters comes out with some really CILly stuff.
Imagine being so low in the food chain that the Kremlin sends to you troll on a Championship football team's message board on behalf of its theocratic allies.
"Imagine being so low in the food chain that the Kremlin sends to you troll on a Championship football team's message board on behalf of its theocratic allies."
Not only do you lack a genuine sense of humanity, you have a crap sense of humour too.
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You said Assad gassing his people was a myth, ironically your own source showed you to be wrong. Are you saying the OPCW lying about their investigation into Assad?
[Post edited 22 Mar 22:04]
I replied by asking if any of these international bodies can be regarded as honest brokers when they apply rules which we expect others to conform to, while not conforming ourselves, based on the facts I have given.
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“She added that "everyone in Syria is on the bad side. The [Bashar al-] Assad government has perpetrated horrible crimes against humanity and used chemical weapons. And the opposition is now made up of extremists and terrorists".
So you did lie because she also said Assad used them. And yes I agree that the new regime is extremists, but I wouldn’t turn out to defend either - does it pay well?
"Does it pay well?" you ask.
No, taking a stand against genocide these days doesn't pay at all. In fact in can even get you locked up, but it really upsets those complicit in it.
If I was in the pro-genocide camp however...
[Post edited 22 Mar 22:32]
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I replied by asking if any of these international bodies can be regarded as honest brokers when they apply rules which we expect others to conform to, while not conforming ourselves, based on the facts I have given.
So ‘just asking questions’, and you retract your original statement that it’s a ‘myth peddled by the West’, given your own evidence was a source that also confirmed Assad gassed his own people.
Or it’s a huge conspiracy, involving multiple agencies, hundreds of weapons experts, witnesses, survivors, faked evidence etc? The source you linked was therefore also part of said conspiracy.
Apologies for putting an Iranian point of view in a thread about Iran
edit. For those not on Twitter
Mr. President, @realDonaldTrump
The Islamic Republic is a terrorist regime. It has made one thing brutally clear: the lives of its own people mean nothing to it.
It kills them. Then it demands money from their families to return their bodies. And if those families dare to grieve, dare to demand justice, they are threatened with gang rape and then arrested.
For years, I have said clearly: the Islamic Republic is not a normal government. It is a terrorist occupying force that will only respond to strength and decisive pressure.
But with the reported 48-hour ultimatum regarding the Strait of Hormuz, I feel a moral and patriotic duty to issue a critical warning:
Targeting Iran’s power plants and civilian infrastructure does not weaken the regime. It punishes the Iranian people.
A nationwide blackout in Iran would hand the regime exactly what it wants, a propaganda victory. The IRGC thrives on blaming foreign enemies for the suffering it has created, redirecting public anger away from itself.
It would also put millions of civilians at risk. Power outages mean hospitals shut down, water systems fail, and ordinary people who are already struggling under extreme economic pressure are pushed further into crisis.
And it would weaken the very people standing up to this regime. A population fighting for basic survival in darkness and desperation has far less capacity to organize, protest, and resist.
If the goal is deterrence or disabling the regime, then the target set must be clear and precise: IRGC command centers, missile infrastructure, and the regime’s security and repression apparatus.
Disable the regime’s war machine, not the lives of the Iranian people.
The Islamic Republic has held Iran hostage for decades. At this critical moment, do not allow it to use our national infrastructure as a shield for its survival.
The objective must be the liberation of Iran, not its destruction. #Iran💔
[Post edited 22 Mar 22:00]
"The objective must be the liberation of Iran, not its destruction. #Iran💔"
Are you doing that sincere advocacy thing again? Go on, add that bit about Bibi being tried in the Hague for war crimes.
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So ‘just asking questions’, and you retract your original statement that it’s a ‘myth peddled by the West’, given your own evidence was a source that also confirmed Assad gassed his own people.
Or it’s a huge conspiracy, involving multiple agencies, hundreds of weapons experts, witnesses, survivors, faked evidence etc? The source you linked was therefore also part of said conspiracy.
It doesn't matter what I think. Syria now has a Saudi-born, Israel-friendly Al Qaeda head-chopper in charge that's assisting Israel in the genocide of the Lebanese people now and enriching Israel with Syrian gas. So, all good.
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It doesn't matter what I think. Syria now has a Saudi-born, Israel-friendly Al Qaeda head-chopper in charge that's assisting Israel in the genocide of the Lebanese people now and enriching Israel with Syrian gas. So, all good.
Just checking where you're coming from ...
Which of the global big players are least responsible for the bad stuff happening?
Who/which nation/alliance is best placed to lead the world to a more sustainable future?
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