| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform 08:40 - Mar 25 with 2121 views | CopfordBlue |
Would you demand that he was dropped and sold? |  |
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 11:27 - Mar 25 with 459 views | chantryblueboy |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 08:46 - Mar 25 by tomo |
No.
If he released a load of media using the club and PR to promote his political view. Yes. |
Is this different to when Morsy used his interview on Sky Sports after the Leicester game in December 23 to support Palestine? I agree with what he said then but don’t remember any outrage | | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 11:29 - Mar 25 with 455 views | lazyblue |
lol
Spot on | | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 11:29 - Mar 25 with 449 views | Churchman |
No. |  | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 11:30 - Mar 25 with 445 views | CastroSito |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 11:29 - Mar 25 by lazyblue |
lol
Spot on |
the fact there was no outrage probably tells you something about what was said. | | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 13:55 - Mar 25 with 372 views | E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 09:22 - Mar 25 by CopfordBlue |
It was a question not a statement. It concerns me that those who cannot understand a simple, brief question get to vote. |
Yes I know it was a question, and a daft one at that. You wouldn't ask it if that's what you thought. Likewise it concerns me so many uneducated, lazy and brainwashed folk also get to vote. We are all concerned for our own reasons. The difference is one side will not accept others think different, and then proceed to cry about it. |  | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 14:02 - Mar 25 with 364 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Whaaaaat?
A player's individual views, or even a managers for that point of view, is their business. It's better they remain neutral publicly of course not keas because it may cause division with team mates and other staff but ultimately that's their decision. Same as with yourself nobody is gonna stop you attending games because you think the earth is flat or whatever (although people might choose to sit away from you)
A club like Ipswich Town which is an institution representing a diverse range of paying supporters should always remain fookin neutral and not be aligned with ANYTHING political especially not a controversial party like Reform. |  |
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 14:19 - Mar 25 with 348 views | Radlett_blue |
In May 2010, former Town defender Wayne Brown told his Leicester team mates that he intended to vote for the BNP at the upcoming General Election & claimed that ethnic minorities were killing the country. This didn't make Eastender Brown too popular with many of his team mates & he left the club at the end of the season. Unsurprisingly, Brown later denied having ever voted for the BNP or holding racist views. |  |
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 14:26 - Mar 25 with 341 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 14:19 - Mar 25 by Radlett_blue |
In May 2010, former Town defender Wayne Brown told his Leicester team mates that he intended to vote for the BNP at the upcoming General Election & claimed that ethnic minorities were killing the country. This didn't make Eastender Brown too popular with many of his team mates & he left the club at the end of the season. Unsurprisingly, Brown later denied having ever voted for the BNP or holding racist views. |
I remember that well. Wayne Brown was a prat in general notwithstanding his political views.
But that's different because it's discrimination at your place of employment, which will get you sacked and at least disciplined in most jobs.
Look at what's happened with Szmodics.
Plus at the time Leicester had black players like Jeff Schlupp, Neil Danns, Lloyd Dyer and Jermaine Beckford as well as a number of foreign players which his comments were all aimed at.
Posting your own views on social media while stupid and most likely resulting in fall outs and confrontation would not result in the same outcome. [Post edited 25 Mar 14:31]
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 14:37 - Mar 25 with 321 views | thecheek |
No
And what has this got do with the outrage that many fans are currently feeling anyway? |  | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 15:14 - Mar 25 with 283 views | lazyblue |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 08:46 - Mar 25 by ZedRodgers |
If he invited Farage to Portman Road for a PR stunt, then proceeded to lie about it and throw Phil under a bus, then yeah. |
Get over it, it wasn’t in anyway a PR stunt , this is getting tiresome now. | | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 15:23 - Mar 25 with 272 views | Herbivore |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 09:12 - Mar 25 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O |
What a daft question. So the team can only be of people that think the same way as you? There would no longer be a competition then would there you fool.
You realize Reform are clear favorites for next election? What will you do if they do triumph? Move country? |
The likes of Farage have made it much harder to leave the country, what with leaving the EU and no longer having the automatic right to live and work there. I'm fortunate in that I'd be able get a visa in the vast majority of countries but others aren't so lucky. |  |
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 15:26 - Mar 25 with 262 views | Herbivore |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 15:14 - Mar 25 by lazyblue |
Get over it, it wasn’t in anyway a PR stunt , this is getting tiresome now. |
If you are finding people expressing their feelings about it tiresome then nobody is forcing you to read their posts. You can just not read them. You're welcome. | |
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| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 17:30 - Mar 25 with 189 views | darkhorse28 |
If the player ran the entire club, invited a single politician to reductively conflate our club to their party and values - YES, YES and YES
Not because if the party or the values.
Because he’s commercially DESTROYED the entire future of the club commercially!!!
Players, sponsors, coaches, managers, they all have brand equity and commercial value, just like a club, and whatever their politics, it doesn’t matter - you don’t reduce your commercial value by about 80% plus, because that’s bonkers, and unnecessary.
It’s not a coincidence 99.9% of clubs and planters don’t do this!!!
Every player coach manager would be advised if they value their commercial brand, to avoid us like th plague - we are now TOXIC and I’d say that for any party, that isn’t in power.
Every player will be advised to sign elsewhere. Where you ca have 100% access to commercial opportunities and not be limited by the political views of Mark Ashton!!!
It’s not poor, or blowing over.
It’s career suicide.
It could literally end this club, death by a thousand cuts!!! Because nobody will say why they are leaving or not joining, they just will take the actions
In 2026 having 100% commercial appeal across all markets isn’t desirable, it’s essential, that’s why contracts and players rights are so difficult in contracts now.
They aren’t players, managers, sponsors, coaches.
THEY ARE BRANDS. Global often, but at the very least they need complete UK appeal, and this isn’t that.
If Ashton stays .., we are done!!!
Sure, he’ll be banging the phones all day to day, trying to get other parties and politicians, to save his own career!!!!
But this was him at his self interested best, if others were planned it would have been announced BEFORE
This industry doesn’t forget. As an agent, you don’t forget, that your players commercial value, and YOUR BANK BALANCE will be worth less if he signs for Ipswich
If Ashton stays, we’ll need to massively over pay to get people through the door, and mitigate their reduced commercial opportunities.
His position is not tenable. This is a test for the owners who truthfully are to blame for a complete lack of control and oversight.
They need to front up now, sack Mark, and issue a full apology, not because it’s reform, but because we are a fully inclusive football club that doesn’t reductively associate itself with any politics!!! All our welcome.
We spent over 100 years building that culture.
For Marks ego to destroy it in one action!!!
Seriously, we’re done if Ashton says. Commercially, as an attractive option for players and staff, done. It’s over. | | | |
| If a Town player stated that he supported Reform on 18:07 - Mar 25 with 154 views | Matt_Netherlands |
He’s been sent out on loan. |  | | |
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