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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here 21:59 - Mar 26 with 3351 views

Firstly, if Mark Ashton has lied and tried to perform some cover up then by all means he should be held accountable in the position he’s in.

But…. What would the meltdown be like had Kier Starmer appeared in our ground? How about Kemi Badenoch?

Whatever your political allegiance, be it Labour, Tory, Reform, or Lord help us Green, this board is still a festering hole of bile and vitriol.

If I’m a labour voter am I allowed to pledge my allegiance here if the chance arises? May I wave my Tory flag here? Whether some of you like it or not, Reform is a political party that is getting votes. Just because it may not fit your political ideology, that doesn’t make you right. I’m not a Lib Dem fan, but am I going to chastise someone who is just because they filmed a few short clips at a football club?

I’m not sure if any of you are aware but Ipswich Town Football Club isn’t on the voting register…. It has no political allegiance. That said, if YOU are on the list to vote, you’re free to vote for whoever you want without a bunch of chimps on this board saying who you can or cannot support.

The meltdown here is truly staggering. The fact that a supporters group is wheeling themselves out with statements is laughable along with it all. They don’t represent my political views and have no need to support or act against the club in anything in my name.

Let’s just concentrate on the football. I couldn’t care less if the Jolly Roger was flying above the cobbold at the next home game. I’m there for the football and i think people need to realise what they actually support a club for. The football on the pitch.

Marcus Evans was supposedly involved in shady deals. Probably somewhat worse than a politician meeting a few people at the club. Especially as the club has stated they don’t promote any political allegiance. Were any videos released by the club to the contrary? No.

So everybody just get off their high horse, let people vote how they wish and just carry on with the 22 players and a bag of air being hoofed around a pitch each Saturday

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:06 - Mar 26 with 441 views

E_I_E_I_E_I_O

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:02 - Mar 26 by positivity
more ridiculous over-reacting. the problem is not having lunch, it's that the ceo of our club has lied to the fans and the local press, doubled down and not apologised. his staff have complained about the situation, thousands of his loyal customers have complained, in what other walk of life would his position be tenable?

But the problem was him having lunch and being there. Because if you noticed there was huge uproar from the bed wetting community even before we knew he lied. I actually agree lying about it was not clever.

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:10 - Mar 26 with 410 views

positivity

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:06 - Mar 26 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O
But the problem was him having lunch and being there. Because if you noticed there was huge uproar from the bed wetting community even before we knew he lied. I actually agree lying about it was not clever.

no, it wasn't the main issue (the lunch was hardly even mentioned, a few itk-ers speculated that it had happened, but it was not in the open).

yesterday's question was cock-up or conspiracy? either way ashton had questions to answer from lefties, righties and centrist dads on here

when the nyt article came out today, the huge consensus was that his position was untenable, except for a few pearl-clutching oddballs

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You’d go to a Town game with the name of the guy who said this on your shirt? on 23:12 - Mar 26 with 408 views

unstableblue

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:48 - Mar 26 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

Look at the absolute state of some of our fans. A totally rational post gets shot down. If it wasn't so ridiculous I'd laugh. The main headline is about 2 people having lunch together and it causes all this from, frankly, people with nothing better to do. To think I might be sitting among them next game puts me off going, but I will not let them win. In fact I might go to the Birmingham game with Farage on the back of my shirt. Afterall that is my choice, not that the loons on here would let you believe that.

And by the way, the below is the tip of the iceberg, this is nothing. See what he’s said about Albanians (Mehmeti), Muslims (Morsy), Europeans (Matusiwa/Kipre)… wake the feck up!!

We allowed a bigot to use our club…

“The best world leader? As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin".

“We ourselves in the European Union provoked the conflict through our territorial expansionism in the Ukraine”

“The RNLI is a taxi service for illegal people smugglers"

“If a woman... has a child and takes two or three years off work, she is worth far less to the employer when she comes back than when she goes away."

(On women breastfeeding) “I think that given that some people feel very embarrassed by it... perhaps sit in the corner."

"Men are prepared to sacrifice their family lives in order to pursue a career and be successful in a way that fewer women are."

"Basic principle was right": Farage said the "basic principle" of Enoch Powell’s 1968 "Rivers of Blood"

Challenged in late 2025 over allegations by 20 former classmates that he used extreme racist and antisemitic slurs at school (such as "Hitler was right"), he responded: "Have I said things 50 years ago that you could interpret as being banter in a playground... in the modern light of day? Yes."

While stating he was "unhappy" with a Reform UK MP who said seeing "black and Asian people" in TV adverts drove her mad, he defended the sentiment by saying: "adverts [are] now unrepresentative of British society as a whole."

Following Trump's return to the White House in early 2025, Farage hailed him as "the bravest man that I know,"

Farage argued that Trump's re-election was "absolutely vital" because he is "by instinct, a peace-maker" who understands that "peace comes through strength, not through weakness".

"I hope and believe that many things that will happen in America will serve as an inspiration to us".

Despite over a dozen women accusing Trump of sexual assault, Farage has maintained his loyalty, stating as recently as December 2025: "For 10 years I have stood up and defended President Trump... I have never wavered in my thoughts or my views for one minute".

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:13 - Mar 26 with 383 views

TheMoralMajority

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:06 - Mar 26 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O
But the problem was him having lunch and being there. Because if you noticed there was huge uproar from the bed wetting community even before we knew he lied. I actually agree lying about it was not clever.

You are being fairly disingenuous and selective here, in order to construct a narrative that doesn't really exist, and lean in to the culture wars. It's ok, it's not just you doing it, it happens from both sides. Just a shame that you have chosen that way to go. At the risk of repeating myself, I think what most people have (and had) an issue with is this:

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here by TheMoralMajority 26 Mar 22:07
Jesus christ.

For the umpteeth time it's not about f'ing reform. It's about platforming a political party, *any* political party, denying it, lying about it and gaslighting the fans, all whilst claiming to be 'apolitical'

Sure, carry on with the "whataboutery" if you want, serves no purpose.

We all, as fans, have been taken for absolute mugs. You may be ok with that. I am not.

There are those on the right who will go "yeah, but, what about Starmer, what about the Greens".

There are those on the left who will scream to high heaven "Farage is a Nazi!!".

None of these are the point (and neither side really do any service to the real issue)

OUR CLUB IS NOT A POLITICAL MOUTHPIECE

WE ARE NOT HERE TO HAVE OUR MONEY TAKEN OFF US AND BE LIED TO.

REPEATEDLY.

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Ashton out

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:17 - Mar 26 with 342 views

vapour_trail

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:03 - Mar 26 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O
Spoken like someone that does indeed promote violence. Being aggressive to someone would not be nice would it, especially from someone who claims to be inclusive. If anyone was offended it would be a swing of a handbag from that demographic so I'd survive.

You’ve misinterpreted the bit where I explained to you that I don’t like violence. Not easily done, but there you go.

I often talk to my kids about their personal safety.

If one of them was to propose what you’re proposing with the Farage shirt, I’d really try to impress on them the response they might solicit.

So again, do it if you want, but watch your back. Someone might take exception.

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:31 - Mar 26 with 308 views

Bigalhunter

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:54 - Mar 26 by waveneyblue
Whatever..... You believe what you want to believe, only one of us knows the truth.... And thats 100% fact, whatever way you might want to twist it. As an aside, I have no idea who ITFC2021 is, but they are following me round like a really bad smell [Post edited 26 Mar 22:55]

I genuinely think you require an intervention from a responsible grown-up to protect you from your own belligerent stupidity now.

This isn’t healthy behaviour and the fact you keep coming back for more is bordering on pitiful.

It’s like slapping an empty punch bag dangling helplessly on a bit of string now…

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:41 - Mar 26 with 299 views

Illinoisblue

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:48 - Mar 26 by E_I_E_I_E_I_O

If it had been Starmer quipping about KM losing his job after being given Starmer 10 shirts you’d be reacting the same way, right? Right?

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I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:45 - Mar 26 with 282 views

vilanovablue

I don't want any political party trying to use the club as a tool to promote their views. The fact I dislike Farage is irrelevant. The fact it's been done in such an underhand way simply stinks.

I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 23:48 - Mar 26 with 274 views

KBsSocks

On which side of the Atlantic do you reside ?

Oh, and complete horlicks.

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