| reform are scum part 2 09:47 - Apr 1 with 2585 views | jaykay |
the wife was on facebook and she called me to come and look at something on it. she said you are on TWTD look at this. under ipswich town for reform uk was a pic of phil ham and a logo of TWTD saying it was a breeding ground ofb left wing posters plus other shite.
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| reform are scum part 2 on 13:43 - Apr 1 with 493 views | lowhouseblue |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:41 - Apr 1 by grow_our_own |
Unless it was taken in the last month, it'll be inaccurate. Since your hero Trump blocked a major trade route and put everyone's costs up, support in the UK for Reform's brand of grifter populism has dropped by 10%. |
it was last tuesday i think - i posted it.
there is nothing i have ever posted on here to imply that trump is my hero. when i posted the poll i pointed out that tactical voting can still keep reform out. if you can only deal with different views by attaching inaccurate and insulting labels, the problem is yours. |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 13:55 - Apr 1 with 473 views | positivity |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:34 - Apr 1 by Radlett_blue |
While you think it's okay to call around 25% of the British people "scum"? |
tbf that was just quoting sitters' april fool's post further down the board. |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 13:57 - Apr 1 with 472 views | positivity |
spineless cowards as with most of the reform keyboard warriors.
happy to name others whilst hiding behind online anonymity | |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 14:03 - Apr 1 with 460 views | Dubtractor |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:43 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
it was last tuesday i think - i posted it.
there is nothing i have ever posted on here to imply that trump is my hero. when i posted the poll i pointed out that tactical voting can still keep reform out. if you can only deal with different views by attaching inaccurate and insulting labels, the problem is yours. |
I disagree with you plenty on here, but I don't disagree that Reform are the most likely party to win control of the county Council next month.
Depressing as that is. |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 14:16 - Apr 1 with 428 views | bartyg |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:34 - Apr 1 by Radlett_blue |
While you think it's okay to call around 25% of the British people "scum"? |
Why does it matter how many people it is?
I wouldn't use "scum" myself. The majority of reform voters are simply directing their ire at the wrong people, persuaded to do so by the ruling class. |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 14:44 - Apr 1 with 376 views | grow_our_own |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:43 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
it was last tuesday i think - i posted it.
there is nothing i have ever posted on here to imply that trump is my hero. when i posted the poll i pointed out that tactical voting can still keep reform out. if you can only deal with different views by attaching inaccurate and insulting labels, the problem is yours. |
Unclear what poll you're referring to. The times they are a changing anyway in the last month. On current trajectory, results will be different from polling. Protest vote in a mid-cycle election doesn't represent the way most power will be allocated in a general election. I stand by my assertion that Ipswich is broadly equal left and right based on prior general election results, as is TWTD. | | | |
| reform are scum part 2 on 14:54 - Apr 1 with 363 views | HighgateBlue |
| reform are scum part 2 on 12:20 - Apr 1 by grow_our_own |
"view on here isn't necessarily the majority view of the fanbase at large" - but that's not based on anything Highgate. Best of our knowledge is TWTD is pretty-much equally left and right, same as the UK, and same as Ipswich (which flits between Labour & Tories). Has been no survey of Ipswich fans' politics generally, but no reason to believe that's any different. The notion that posters don't represent wider TWTD would have to be coupled with the idea people using the up and down arrows don't either, because they're mostly opposed to politicisation & lying too. No reason to think that. It's misinfo at best. [Post edited 1 Apr 12:24]
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I readily accept that I've done no robust data analysis.
I do think, however, that the difference in views and tone between TWTD and other platforms is pretty striking. Just on an anecdotal level.
As for my latter point that frequent posters don't have the same views as the silent majority, well that's supposition, I'll give you that. I just think we should be aware that that /might/ be the case.
Or to put it another way, if we assume that the fanbase at large agrees with the most vocal posters on TWTD, we may very well be making a similar mistake to the one you fairly accuse me of making. I just think we should have an open mind to it. TWTD is fantastic, I've enjoyed it since the 20th century, and Phil is particularly objective and non-biased. But I do think we're a particular subset of fans. Even just selecting by the types of people who have more time (especially in the daytime) to be reading and typing online will give you a relatively skewed sample of people (not better or worse people, I hasten to add).
A political survey of TWTD and fans generally would be really interesting. My sense is that TWTD is more anti-Reform than the general population. Many of us feel free to call Farage a c-unit, some call him na5i, and racist etc. But those who argue against that viewpoint tend to say that he's in a legitimate political party which may form a government, and which is actually quite popular. Very few say they actually support Reform and will vote for them. Which is partly because they are embarrassed to, I guess, but then that feeds back into my notion that what is said by those who speak up isn't always totally representative.
And just to be super-clear, I am very much opposed to polticisation of the club, even more opposed to Ashton lying, and yet further opposed to any electoral success for Reform! |  | | |
| reform are scum part 2 on 15:02 - Apr 1 with 348 views | Radlett_blue |
| reform are scum part 2 on 14:54 - Apr 1 by HighgateBlue |
I readily accept that I've done no robust data analysis.
I do think, however, that the difference in views and tone between TWTD and other platforms is pretty striking. Just on an anecdotal level.
As for my latter point that frequent posters don't have the same views as the silent majority, well that's supposition, I'll give you that. I just think we should be aware that that /might/ be the case.
Or to put it another way, if we assume that the fanbase at large agrees with the most vocal posters on TWTD, we may very well be making a similar mistake to the one you fairly accuse me of making. I just think we should have an open mind to it. TWTD is fantastic, I've enjoyed it since the 20th century, and Phil is particularly objective and non-biased. But I do think we're a particular subset of fans. Even just selecting by the types of people who have more time (especially in the daytime) to be reading and typing online will give you a relatively skewed sample of people (not better or worse people, I hasten to add).
A political survey of TWTD and fans generally would be really interesting. My sense is that TWTD is more anti-Reform than the general population. Many of us feel free to call Farage a c-unit, some call him na5i, and racist etc. But those who argue against that viewpoint tend to say that he's in a legitimate political party which may form a government, and which is actually quite popular. Very few say they actually support Reform and will vote for them. Which is partly because they are embarrassed to, I guess, but then that feeds back into my notion that what is said by those who speak up isn't always totally representative.
And just to be super-clear, I am very much opposed to polticisation of the club, even more opposed to Ashton lying, and yet further opposed to any electoral success for Reform! |
Indeed, when people post about politics on here, a clear majority of the posts are left of centre (or anti-Tory). But when a poll has been run about voting intention, it's fairly evenly divided.
Both of these measures are probably even more inaccurate than opinion polls have been shown to be, but it's clear that those who are to the right of centre largely prefer to keep quiet on here. It would be a brave man who came on here espousing the virtues of Farage, even though around 25% of the public currently support him. |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 15:28 - Apr 1 with 332 views | positivity |
| reform are scum part 2 on 15:02 - Apr 1 by Radlett_blue |
Indeed, when people post about politics on here, a clear majority of the posts are left of centre (or anti-Tory). But when a poll has been run about voting intention, it's fairly evenly divided.
Both of these measures are probably even more inaccurate than opinion polls have been shown to be, but it's clear that those who are to the right of centre largely prefer to keep quiet on here. It would be a brave man who came on here espousing the virtues of Farage, even though around 25% of the public currently support him. |
(23% of those likely to vote, so maybe 10% of the public support him?)
i don't think that it's that right-wingers are shyer, look at twitter!
i think twtd is just a bit more of an enlightened community. it's just not acceptable to be genuinely racist/homophobic etc on here, it'll get called out (by left & right-leaning posters) and the poster will either wind their neck in or get (rightly) banned | |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 15:40 - Apr 1 with 307 views | thebooks |
| reform are scum part 2 on 15:02 - Apr 1 by Radlett_blue |
Indeed, when people post about politics on here, a clear majority of the posts are left of centre (or anti-Tory). But when a poll has been run about voting intention, it's fairly evenly divided.
Both of these measures are probably even more inaccurate than opinion polls have been shown to be, but it's clear that those who are to the right of centre largely prefer to keep quiet on here. It would be a brave man who came on here espousing the virtues of Farage, even though around 25% of the public currently support him. |
There's plenty right of centre folk on here.
It would indeed be a brave man who espoused the virtues of Farage on here, mainly because what he says is utterly ludicruous and doesn't stand up to any scrutiny, regardless of whether 25% of the population intend to vote Reform.
A lot of Reform voters know full well he's a lying grifter: dissatisfaction with the status quo often drives their vote. |  | | |
| reform are scum part 2 on 16:04 - Apr 1 with 272 views | positivity |
| reform are scum part 2 on 15:40 - Apr 1 by thebooks |
There's plenty right of centre folk on here.
It would indeed be a brave man who espoused the virtues of Farage on here, mainly because what he says is utterly ludicruous and doesn't stand up to any scrutiny, regardless of whether 25% of the population intend to vote Reform.
A lot of Reform voters know full well he's a lying grifter: dissatisfaction with the status quo often drives their vote. |
yes, even though farage is very much part of the upper class status quo! | |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 16:18 - Apr 1 with 246 views | grow_our_own |
| reform are scum part 2 on 14:54 - Apr 1 by HighgateBlue |
I readily accept that I've done no robust data analysis.
I do think, however, that the difference in views and tone between TWTD and other platforms is pretty striking. Just on an anecdotal level.
As for my latter point that frequent posters don't have the same views as the silent majority, well that's supposition, I'll give you that. I just think we should be aware that that /might/ be the case.
Or to put it another way, if we assume that the fanbase at large agrees with the most vocal posters on TWTD, we may very well be making a similar mistake to the one you fairly accuse me of making. I just think we should have an open mind to it. TWTD is fantastic, I've enjoyed it since the 20th century, and Phil is particularly objective and non-biased. But I do think we're a particular subset of fans. Even just selecting by the types of people who have more time (especially in the daytime) to be reading and typing online will give you a relatively skewed sample of people (not better or worse people, I hasten to add).
A political survey of TWTD and fans generally would be really interesting. My sense is that TWTD is more anti-Reform than the general population. Many of us feel free to call Farage a c-unit, some call him na5i, and racist etc. But those who argue against that viewpoint tend to say that he's in a legitimate political party which may form a government, and which is actually quite popular. Very few say they actually support Reform and will vote for them. Which is partly because they are embarrassed to, I guess, but then that feeds back into my notion that what is said by those who speak up isn't always totally representative.
And just to be super-clear, I am very much opposed to polticisation of the club, even more opposed to Ashton lying, and yet further opposed to any electoral success for Reform! |
I'll restate, to the best of our knowledge around two thirds of TWTDers want Asthton out:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/members
https://www.twtd.co.uk/members
https://www.twtd.co.uk/members
https://www.twtd.co.uk/members
TWTDers are broadly equal left and right:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/members
as is Ipswich bc it flits between Labour and Tories. Beyond that, "Posters don't represent TWTDers" and "up/down voters don't represent TWTDers" is a pretty worthless hot-take. Not surprised TWTD is different from x.com, if that's what you're referring to, bc unlike TWTD, that's well known to have a right-skew now.
Glad we agree on Farage and Ashton. Speak to you in the chat soon dude. [Post edited 1 Apr 16:33]
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| reform are scum part 2 on 18:19 - Apr 1 with 204 views | blueoutlook |
People being hard behind their keyboards is different to being out and about. There will be no problem at the games. Most aren’t really ver6 hard at all when the6 come out from behind their screens at home. |  | | |
| reform are scum part 2 on 18:25 - Apr 1 with 198 views | Swansea_Blue |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:34 - Apr 1 by Radlett_blue |
While you think it's okay to call around 25% of the British people "scum"? |
The OP says “reform are scum”. Not Reform supporters/Reform curious people are scum. To be fair, given the nature of their leadership and the disproportionately large number of their people who have had to be sacked or resign for racism, bullying, homophobia, paedophilia, and various other offences, the OP may have a point. Although I’d agree it’s a bit of sweeping statement! |  |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 18:50 - Apr 1 with 181 views | ReusersTown |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:43 - Apr 1 by lowhouseblue |
it was last tuesday i think - i posted it.
there is nothing i have ever posted on here to imply that trump is my hero. when i posted the poll i pointed out that tactical voting can still keep reform out. if you can only deal with different views by attaching inaccurate and insulting labels, the problem is yours. |
After the farage stunt I can't see them winning Ipswich now, no matter if your stats before were accurate or not. I didn't have that much intention of voting before, but I certainly do now, I'd assume many others may feel the same. | | | |
| reform are scum part 2 on 19:07 - Apr 1 with 152 views | lowhouseblue |
| reform are scum part 2 on 18:50 - Apr 1 by ReusersTown |
After the farage stunt I can't see them winning Ipswich now, no matter if your stats before were accurate or not. I didn't have that much intention of voting before, but I certainly do now, I'd assume many others may feel the same. |
excellent. vote tactically and keep them out. | |
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| reform are scum part 2 on 19:16 - Apr 1 with 135 views | J2BLUE |
| reform are scum part 2 on 13:22 - Apr 1 by grow_our_own |
Never have j2. I've cited TWTD polls showing around two thirds of Ipswich supporters want Ashton out. What have you cited refuting that? |
Just posted in the other thread.
Apologies, I thought that Facebook protest page was yours.
As each day goes past I believe the fanbase collectively cares less and less. Some disagree but that's my belief. As we get nearer and nearer an actual game with huge implications I think it will largely fizzle out, especially if results go our way and we can get into second with a win over Birmingham. |  |
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