| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" 12:17 - Apr 24 with 2091 views | The_Major |
BBC News - No 10 say Falkland sovereignty rests with UK after report of US 'review'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/art
If they're suggesting things like that, perhaps we need to review Lakenheath and Mildenhall. |  | | |  |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:20 - Apr 24 with 1505 views | giant_stow |
The same Pentagon email suggests suspending Spain from NATO too, apparently. The US has become a rogue state. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:28 - Apr 24 with 1475 views | Radlett_blue |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:20 - Apr 24 by giant_stow |
The same Pentagon email suggests suspending Spain from NATO too, apparently. The US has become a rogue state. |
The real threat as far as Europe is concerned is whether NATO exists in anything other than name. The most obviously vulnerable countries such as Poland & the Baltic Republics have already ramped up their defence spend; Germany is increasing it. Good old Starmer talks about it, but is incapable of making the necessary unpopular decisions on how to fund it - higher taxes or cut something else.
While some might think that things will get better in a few years after Trump is gone, let's not forget the USA could come up with someone as bad or worse, such as JD Vance. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:51 - Apr 24 with 1405 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:28 - Apr 24 by Radlett_blue |
The real threat as far as Europe is concerned is whether NATO exists in anything other than name. The most obviously vulnerable countries such as Poland & the Baltic Republics have already ramped up their defence spend; Germany is increasing it. Good old Starmer talks about it, but is incapable of making the necessary unpopular decisions on how to fund it - higher taxes or cut something else.
While some might think that things will get better in a few years after Trump is gone, let's not forget the USA could come up with someone as bad or worse, such as JD Vance. |
No way that Vance is getting anywhere near the big job.
He's not even popular in his own house. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:56 - Apr 24 with 1376 views | Guthrum |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:20 - Apr 24 by giant_stow |
The same Pentagon email suggests suspending Spain from NATO too, apparently. The US has become a rogue state. |
There is no mechanism in NATO for suspending individual nations. Let alone at the behest of one other member, when the country in question has done nothing against the alliance's charter. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:01 - Apr 24 with 1359 views | You_Bloo_Right |
And the 13 colonies of course.
As they seem to be making a pig's ear of running things over there perhaps it's time to take back control. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:03 - Apr 24 with 1356 views | Guthrum |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:28 - Apr 24 by Radlett_blue |
The real threat as far as Europe is concerned is whether NATO exists in anything other than name. The most obviously vulnerable countries such as Poland & the Baltic Republics have already ramped up their defence spend; Germany is increasing it. Good old Starmer talks about it, but is incapable of making the necessary unpopular decisions on how to fund it - higher taxes or cut something else.
While some might think that things will get better in a few years after Trump is gone, let's not forget the USA could come up with someone as bad or worse, such as JD Vance. |
And, indeed, isolationism is the normal mode of US international relations. The post-WWII deep engagement is the exception, rather than the rule.
I have heard some commentators suggest that, apart from the intel sphere, the US departing NATO would not have that bad an effect. If properly coordinated, Europe has enough to defend itself from Russia and most other immediate threats.. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:10 - Apr 24 with 1319 views | Radlett_blue |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:03 - Apr 24 by Guthrum |
And, indeed, isolationism is the normal mode of US international relations. The post-WWII deep engagement is the exception, rather than the rule.
I have heard some commentators suggest that, apart from the intel sphere, the US departing NATO would not have that bad an effect. If properly coordinated, Europe has enough to defend itself from Russia and most other immediate threats.. |
Russia's military isn't in good shape, as has been shown by their struggles in Ukraine.
But your key phrase is "if properly coordinated" as it seems near impossible to get even a few European nations to agree on anything. And Putin knows that Western Europe has no stomach for a conflict involving body bags. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:19 - Apr 24 with 1283 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:03 - Apr 24 by Guthrum |
And, indeed, isolationism is the normal mode of US international relations. The post-WWII deep engagement is the exception, rather than the rule.
I have heard some commentators suggest that, apart from the intel sphere, the US departing NATO would not have that bad an effect. If properly coordinated, Europe has enough to defend itself from Russia and most other immediate threats.. |
It seems to me that the ‘might is right’ approach is doomed to failure anyway. Iran are holding the world to hostage and the US are impotent to stop them despite them having the largest military force. Short of nuking them off the face of the earth, their options are very limited as they seem to be running out of missile that have taken many, many years to slowly stockpile (if various reports/best guess assessments are true). Apparently the US can produce about 10 tomahawks a year, but are now being restricted because there’s a shortage of the raw materials that travel through…wait for it…the Straight of Hormuz. You couldn’t make it up.
The answer to things like this is always going to be diplomacy. The way to have prevented it was diplomacy. Europe wouldn’t need a lot of firepower to provide a deterrent, but the emphasise should be on strengthening international relationships and rules based order, be that around trade or social programmes. IMO anyway. It seems bleedingly obvious to me, but what do I know? And besides, I don’t invest in shares in arms companies either, which is going to be a large part of this. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:24 - Apr 24 with 1258 views | Guthrum |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:10 - Apr 24 by Radlett_blue |
Russia's military isn't in good shape, as has been shown by their struggles in Ukraine.
But your key phrase is "if properly coordinated" as it seems near impossible to get even a few European nations to agree on anything. And Putin knows that Western Europe has no stomach for a conflict involving body bags. |
Thing is, it could be coordinated under the umbrella of a rebranded (and maybe expanded) NATO. That has worked quite well for several decades. It doesn't need to be a completely new structure. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:28 - Apr 24 with 1238 views | Meadowlark |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:28 - Apr 24 by Radlett_blue |
The real threat as far as Europe is concerned is whether NATO exists in anything other than name. The most obviously vulnerable countries such as Poland & the Baltic Republics have already ramped up their defence spend; Germany is increasing it. Good old Starmer talks about it, but is incapable of making the necessary unpopular decisions on how to fund it - higher taxes or cut something else.
While some might think that things will get better in a few years after Trump is gone, let's not forget the USA could come up with someone as bad or worse, such as JD Vance. |
Or so could we???? |  | | |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:34 - Apr 24 with 1217 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:19 - Apr 24 by Swansea_Blue |
It seems to me that the ‘might is right’ approach is doomed to failure anyway. Iran are holding the world to hostage and the US are impotent to stop them despite them having the largest military force. Short of nuking them off the face of the earth, their options are very limited as they seem to be running out of missile that have taken many, many years to slowly stockpile (if various reports/best guess assessments are true). Apparently the US can produce about 10 tomahawks a year, but are now being restricted because there’s a shortage of the raw materials that travel through…wait for it…the Straight of Hormuz. You couldn’t make it up.
The answer to things like this is always going to be diplomacy. The way to have prevented it was diplomacy. Europe wouldn’t need a lot of firepower to provide a deterrent, but the emphasise should be on strengthening international relationships and rules based order, be that around trade or social programmes. IMO anyway. It seems bleedingly obvious to me, but what do I know? And besides, I don’t invest in shares in arms companies either, which is going to be a large part of this. |
Interesting downvote from Hotshot Hamish, who would presumably prefer to see people lose their lives over this instead. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:36 - Apr 24 with 1200 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 12:20 - Apr 24 by giant_stow |
The same Pentagon email suggests suspending Spain from NATO too, apparently. The US has become a rogue state. |
The US has been a rogue state for as long as I can remember. As a nation we are just waking up to the fact that we are a US vassal state. |  |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:42 - Apr 24 with 1169 views | tonybied |
At what point do we call this something other than a "special relationship ".
I honestly think Europe should consider handing the Americans notice on any military bases they use. That would make it a lot harder for the US to move their military infrastructure around. |  | | |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:44 - Apr 24 with 1157 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:10 - Apr 24 by Radlett_blue |
Russia's military isn't in good shape, as has been shown by their struggles in Ukraine.
But your key phrase is "if properly coordinated" as it seems near impossible to get even a few European nations to agree on anything. And Putin knows that Western Europe has no stomach for a conflict involving body bags. |
Russia's military unfortunately isn't in bad shape. They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist, whilst developing and improving Iranian drone technologies and having endless practice at neutralising and depleting "game changing" NATO military technology. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:48 - Apr 24 with 1127 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:24 - Apr 24 by Guthrum |
Thing is, it could be coordinated under the umbrella of a rebranded (and maybe expanded) NATO. That has worked quite well for several decades. It doesn't need to be a completely new structure. |
I think we are set for a NATO rebrand of sorts, or one which allows the US to support Israel attacking Turkiye. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:53 - Apr 24 with 1117 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:44 - Apr 24 by Cafe_Newman |
Russia's military unfortunately isn't in bad shape. They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist, whilst developing and improving Iranian drone technologies and having endless practice at neutralising and depleting "game changing" NATO military technology. |
'They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist'
They literally invaded another country 4 years ago. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:58 - Apr 24 with 1097 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:53 - Apr 24 by BlueBadger |
'They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist'
They literally invaded another country 4 years ago. |
Yes, at a rate of about 10 metres a month. They haven't even secured all the areas which are predominantly Russian speaking. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:09 - Apr 24 with 1038 views | tonybied |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:58 - Apr 24 by Cafe_Newman |
Yes, at a rate of about 10 metres a month. They haven't even secured all the areas which are predominantly Russian speaking. |
I think what you mean is they have spent the last 4 years proving they're not very good at being an expansionist state. They are trying to be one, they are just doing a particularly bad job at it! | | | |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:12 - Apr 24 with 1027 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:53 - Apr 24 by BlueBadger |
'They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist'
They literally invaded another country 4 years ago. |
And Syria, Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. Plus hybrid warfare against European infrastructure and technology.
But other than that… |  | | |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:13 - Apr 24 with 1026 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:58 - Apr 24 by Cafe_Newman |
Yes, at a rate of about 10 metres a month. They haven't even secured all the areas which are predominantly Russian speaking. |
Just because they're crap at it, doesn't mean they not expansionist. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:15 - Apr 24 with 1021 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:12 - Apr 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
And Syria, Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. Plus hybrid warfare against European infrastructure and technology.
But other than that… |
And you know, being essentially the president of the USA's boss. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:42 - Apr 24 with 953 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 13:53 - Apr 24 by BlueBadger |
'They've spent the last 4 years demonstrating that they are not expansionist'
They literally invaded another country 4 years ago. |
They're not expansionist APART from the invading another country bit. In the same way I'm not expanding if you discount my waistline  | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:48 - Apr 24 with 927 views | BlueBadger |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:42 - Apr 24 by Swansea_Blue |
They're not expansionist APART from the invading another country bit. In the same way I'm not expanding if you discount my waistline |
Using similar criteria, Norwich City don't count as a football team. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:52 - Apr 24 with 909 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:09 - Apr 24 by tonybied |
I think what you mean is they have spent the last 4 years proving they're not very good at being an expansionist state. They are trying to be one, they are just doing a particularly bad job at it! |
Why would a country with a population of about 40% of the US want to increase its internal threat of attack by taking over populations of countries which hate it.? They did it once before with dramatic failure.
Oh yes, it's because Putin's crazy.
When Putin goes... he's pretty old, we'll discover what hardline crazy Russian politics looks like. | |
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| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:56 - Apr 24 with 890 views | Cafe_Newman |
| I believe the phrase rhymes with "Go to hell, you clucking punts" on 14:12 - Apr 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
And Syria, Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea. Plus hybrid warfare against European infrastructure and technology.
But other than that… |
Israel runs Syria! The Russians betrayed the Syrians to let the Israeli-sponsored Al Qaida run government in. FFS, they're actually open about it. | |
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