| Hopefully 22:46 - May 12 with 2577 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Now the EFL will boot Southampton out of the play offs.
That’ll learn em |  |
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| Hopefully on 14:25 - May 13 with 324 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Hopefully on 14:05 - May 13 by The_Major |
If they are going to get booted, then the decision has got to be basically in the next 72 hours. Then if it's Boro at Wembley, that gives them time to prepare - hopefully they're considering that possibility and not letting half the squad head for the airports for holidays just yet.
If it's just let Hull go up by default, I'd imagine Sky won't be happy that they won't have a game to show. |
Yeah it needs to be decided quickly, in fairness to Hull too. Boro and Saints know who they would be facing, its only right that Hull have the same.
Either way there will be a playoff final, and as much as I'd like to see it I can't see it being anything other than Hull v Saints. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 14:30 - May 13 with 296 views | Axeldalai_lama |
I would say there is a good case for quite a big conflict of interest here too. The FA are making the decision which will hugely affect one of their own biggest events, the play off final. It wouldn't be in their own interests to detract from that by putting a losing team forward, or awarding the final to Hull without playing. It's in their own interests to sweep it under the carpet. The lawyers will be dining out on all the implications and appeals. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 14:48 - May 13 with 249 views | SheffordBlue |
| Hopefully on 14:30 - May 13 by Axeldalai_lama |
I would say there is a good case for quite a big conflict of interest here too. The FA are making the decision which will hugely affect one of their own biggest events, the play off final. It wouldn't be in their own interests to detract from that by putting a losing team forward, or awarding the final to Hull without playing. It's in their own interests to sweep it under the carpet. The lawyers will be dining out on all the implications and appeals. |
Quite how independent the independent panel actually is isn't clear but I guess that's the purpose of it - to avoid any conflicts. The EFL shouldn't be making the decision. |  |
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| Hopefully on 15:04 - May 13 with 177 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Hopefully on 14:48 - May 13 by SheffordBlue |
Quite how independent the independent panel actually is isn't clear but I guess that's the purpose of it - to avoid any conflicts. The EFL shouldn't be making the decision. |
To be fair I hadn't looked into the make up of the process. I just assumed that the final say on actual punishment would still come down to the EFL. Don't know if the panel will be Judge Judy and executioner, to quote Homer Simpson, or whether it will just say, yep they did it. | | | |
| Hopefully on 15:30 - May 13 with 127 views | ClareBlue |
It's just a plan to keep Spuds in Premiership. They can boot them out and only promote and relegate two teams if they win the playoff. We were all wondering how one of the 'big six' would be prevented from relegation and now we know. | | | |
| Hopefully on 15:44 - May 13 with 93 views | SheffordBlue |
| Hopefully on 15:04 - May 13 by Axeldalai_lama |
To be fair I hadn't looked into the make up of the process. I just assumed that the final say on actual punishment would still come down to the EFL. Don't know if the panel will be Judge Judy and executioner, to quote Homer Simpson, or whether it will just say, yep they did it. |
This is what Perplexity (my AI of choice) came up with for how it works:
Who makes up the panel?
The “Independent Disciplinary Commission” in EFL cases is a standing pool of independent panellists appointed via external bodies (for example, sports law and arbitration organisations), from which a three‑person panel is usually drawn for a given case.
Typical EFL commissions are made up of a legally qualified chair (often a King’s Counsel or experienced sports lawyer), plus two other independent members who may have backgrounds in football administration, finance, or other relevant expertise, but who are not representatives of the clubs involved in the case. This structure is described in EFL documentation and is consistent with how other recent EFL disciplinary commissions are assembled, even though the league has not named the individual panellists for this particular case.
The key point is that the panel is structurally independent of the EFL’s executive and of the clubs; the EFL brings the charge, but the commission members are appointed through independent processes precisely to avoid conflicts of interest.
After the decision
Once the Independent Commission issues its written decision, it can take immediate effect, which matters here because of the tight play‑off schedule.
Southampton would have limited appeal routes and, because of timing, any appeal would likely need to be expedited so that any final outcome is known before or very shortly after the scheduled play‑off final. | |
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| Hopefully on 15:48 - May 13 with 78 views | BseaBlue |
| Hopefully on 14:25 - May 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
Yeah it needs to be decided quickly, in fairness to Hull too. Boro and Saints know who they would be facing, its only right that Hull have the same.
Either way there will be a playoff final, and as much as I'd like to see it I can't see it being anything other than Hull v Saints. |
It sets a very dangerous precedent if they don't impose some kind of sanction outside of a fine in my opinion.
The play off final is potentially worth £150 million so a fine for a couple of million quid could end up being well worth it. Something needs to be in place to deter clubs from doing this again in the future. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 15:50 - May 13 with 72 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Hopefully on 15:44 - May 13 by SheffordBlue |
This is what Perplexity (my AI of choice) came up with for how it works:
Who makes up the panel?
The “Independent Disciplinary Commission” in EFL cases is a standing pool of independent panellists appointed via external bodies (for example, sports law and arbitration organisations), from which a three‑person panel is usually drawn for a given case.
Typical EFL commissions are made up of a legally qualified chair (often a King’s Counsel or experienced sports lawyer), plus two other independent members who may have backgrounds in football administration, finance, or other relevant expertise, but who are not representatives of the clubs involved in the case. This structure is described in EFL documentation and is consistent with how other recent EFL disciplinary commissions are assembled, even though the league has not named the individual panellists for this particular case.
The key point is that the panel is structurally independent of the EFL’s executive and of the clubs; the EFL brings the charge, but the commission members are appointed through independent processes precisely to avoid conflicts of interest.
After the decision
Once the Independent Commission issues its written decision, it can take immediate effect, which matters here because of the tight play‑off schedule.
Southampton would have limited appeal routes and, because of timing, any appeal would likely need to be expedited so that any final outcome is known before or very shortly after the scheduled play‑off final. |
Interesting, thanks for that.
That makes it sound like quite a robust process. Hopefully. Either way I think what follow is going to be interesting. | | | |
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| Hopefully on 16:38 - May 13 with 17 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
I see Tonda walked out of, (or rather their press guy walked him out), of another Presser.
“Show some respect”, what? Like you did to your opponent by hiding in bushes and then allowing the ball man (boy?) to not give the ball back?
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