| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref 09:39 - Jul 6 with 2415 views | RIPbobby | The only thing I would question is does var have the right to call the red card. Whilst I think it was a red card, although the player was unlucky with the way his leg rolls up the ball. Can var just call up anything in any part of the match and say... Red card. I get that they are allowed to upgrade a yellow to a red, but the ref deemed this not a foul live. Wasn't the 'big pushy on chappers v Leicester not allowed to be called by var because it wasn't deemed a foul live by the ref? Were the rules different? I genuinely am not sure what var can and can't do now? |  | | |  |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:15 - Jul 6 with 313 views | stonojnr |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 09:57 - Jul 6 by bsw72 | That is the issue with super slo-mo. Another example, not footy, but have you seen the "catch" by Sophie Ecclestone that was overruled in yesterday's Women's T20 WC Final. 100% a clean catch that when slowed frame by frame introduced doubt and was given not out. If it had been a closer final, could have proven very controversial. |
benefit of the doubt should always stay with the batsman, I dont think it was 100% clean catch,and the fielder cant tell, and neither can the players but I dont think she had her fingers wholly under the ball, so theres doubt, so go back to rule 1, benefit of the doubt goes to the batsman, carry on the game as its always been played. and like if the original decision was not out, I dont think theyre giving that out on review either. what should be questioned more is how come those were the only 2 best camera angles they had for a final ? |  | |  |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:17 - Jul 6 with 311 views | farkenhell |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 12:58 - Jul 6 by Bugs | Just heard on the post-match 'clear and obvious' is no longer the term used if it goes to VAR. I have no idea what term it's been replaced with. |
"we'll make it up as we go" |  | |  |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:24 - Jul 6 with 281 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 12:17 - Jul 6 by BseaBlue | Really? I thought he was massively inconsistent. He never booked any of the Mexicans when they were surrounding the penalty spot/Kane when ours was given but booked one of ours for doing it to them. He gave some soft fouls (i.e Saka for their first goal) but then let some go that were blatant. I did think the Kane incident was a pen but then is it a clear and obvious error? For me, it isnt because you couldn't really tell he had fouled him from the Ref's angle and not all contact is a foul anyway. If that was given, you probably couldn't argue it, but it wasnt and I think its a fair debate that it wasn't an 'obvious foul' He also let the 6 (Lira I think) repeatedly shout in his face and at the other officials. I think it was Kane that clearly mouthed to the ref at one point 'No more Ref' because he was constantly doing it. Then add in the 11 minutes......That was a complete joke. Not really many injuries in the second half and the VAR checks were done really quickly. It all felt like the pressure of the crowd affected the occassion. [Post edited 6 Jul 12:18]
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The 11 minutes was incredible. I don't think the physio from either team came on at any point, did they? |  | |  |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:31 - Jul 6 with 263 views | LeoMuff |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:24 - Jul 6 by ArnoldMoorhen | The 11 minutes was incredible. I don't think the physio from either team came on at any point, did they? |
Oodles of time was wasted by Mexico for the England pen as well, it was always going to be a huge amount of added time, that’s the sort of ref he is. |  |
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| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:50 - Jul 6 with 231 views | BseaBlue |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 14:31 - Jul 6 by LeoMuff | Oodles of time was wasted by Mexico for the England pen as well, it was always going to be a huge amount of added time, that’s the sort of ref he is. |
Am I definitely right that none of them got booked for all of that? Yet Kane got booked for the messing around when Mexico was awarded one! |  | |  |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 15:20 - Jul 6 with 209 views | Sharkey |
| Tuchel wasn't happy with the ref on 12:17 - Jul 6 by BseaBlue | Really? I thought he was massively inconsistent. He never booked any of the Mexicans when they were surrounding the penalty spot/Kane when ours was given but booked one of ours for doing it to them. He gave some soft fouls (i.e Saka for their first goal) but then let some go that were blatant. I did think the Kane incident was a pen but then is it a clear and obvious error? For me, it isnt because you couldn't really tell he had fouled him from the Ref's angle and not all contact is a foul anyway. If that was given, you probably couldn't argue it, but it wasnt and I think its a fair debate that it wasn't an 'obvious foul' He also let the 6 (Lira I think) repeatedly shout in his face and at the other officials. I think it was Kane that clearly mouthed to the ref at one point 'No more Ref' because he was constantly doing it. Then add in the 11 minutes......That was a complete joke. Not really many injuries in the second half and the VAR checks were done really quickly. It all felt like the pressure of the crowd affected the occassion. [Post edited 6 Jul 12:18]
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I guess much of the 11 minutes came from the long delays before the penalties. It was a LONG wait for Kane’s in particular. Can easily see that it might have added up five minutes. |  | |  |
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