| A narrow church 15:46 - Jul 14 with 1102 views | DJR |
I suppose it started with Johnson preventing people like Ken Clarke from standing at the 2019 election but Badenoch is carrying on the sort of intolerance that Labour Together also engaged in. It didn't end well for Labour and is also to be deplored in what was once a broad church Tory party.
https://www.theguardian.com/po
There was also this in yesterday's paper.
Chris Philp confirms Badenoch's new selection rules would stop someone like Ken Clarke being Tory parliamentary candidate
In an article for the Daily Telegraph last week, Kemi Badenoch said that anyone who wants to be a Conservative candidate at the next election will have to support leaving the European convention on human rights and getting rid of net zero targets. She said:
"If someone still believes in net zero targets that make energy more expensive and are destroying industry, they are not coming back. If someone thinks that the ECHR can be wished away rather than being dealt with properly, they are not serious. If they want to jump on every passing fad that makes us look more like Liberal Democrats than Conservatives, there is no place for them in this party. We have to show we have changed for the better.
We need candidates with the five Cs: they must be clever, have charisma, communication skills, conviction and, most importantly, be Conservative."
She made it clear that people who have been former Tory MPs or ministers who are applying to stand again are being turned down.
"Soon some of those who applied [to be candidates], including former MPs, will start to receive a decision and they will be unhappy at not passing the test that will let them stand for the party at the next election …
Some people should never have been candidates before. Some do not have the judgment. Some do not have the discipline. Some do not want the Conservative Party to change. Some say one thing in public and another in private. Some failed basic psychometric tests, including one candidate who turned up drunk to their assessment."
She also said she wanted “a team with a plan that can run the country and deliver radical change in the 2030s, not a retirement home for failed politicians”.
In an interview on the Today programme this morning, Chris Philp, the shadow home secretary, was asked if this meant that a younger version of someone like Ken Clarke, the pro-European former chancellor, would no longer be allowed to be a Tory candidate.
Philp said it would depend on his views on the ECHR.
When it was put to him that someone like Clarke would not pass that test, Philp said that was justified because this issue was “fundamental” because “the ECHR is stopping us controlling our borders, it’s stopping us deporting foreign paedophiles”.
Asked if he did not believe in debate, Philp said he did, but in this case the party had had the debate and taken the decision.
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| A narrow church on 16:13 - Jul 14 with 1011 views | Kievthegreat |
Seems the Tories watched lots of the home counties elect Lib Dem MPs and thought to themselves, let's see if we can get more.
Chasing Reform and burning bridges with your core support was a terrible policy for Labour and is proving equally disastrous for the Tories. |  | | |
| A narrow church on 17:32 - Jul 14 with 908 views | eireblue |
6 C’s, surely one missed. |  | | |
| A narrow church on 17:35 - Jul 14 with 898 views | Mullet |
What was the narrowing of the Labour criteria? Not being antisemitic? |  |
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| A narrow church on 17:59 - Jul 14 with 805 views | Swansea_Blue |
| A narrow church on 17:32 - Jul 14 by eireblue |
6 C’s, surely one missed. |
Cheddar-lover? Count me in, where do I sign up.
I’ve found it a fascinating little episode that says a lot about why the Tories are failing and the shortcomings of thin-skinned Badenoch. They’re depressingly MAGA-light in so many ways. |  |
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| A narrow church on 18:15 - Jul 14 with 761 views | GlasgowBlue |
| A narrow church on 17:59 - Jul 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Cheddar-lover? Count me in, where do I sign up.
I’ve found it a fascinating little episode that says a lot about why the Tories are failing and the shortcomings of thin-skinned Badenoch. They’re depressingly MAGA-light in so many ways. |
Are they failing under Badenoch though? Most polls have the Tories second to Reform, ahead of Labour and she has the best approval ratings of all the party leaders.
Of course this may change when Burnham is crowned next week. |  |
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| A narrow church on 18:26 - Jul 14 with 743 views | naa |
| A narrow church on 18:17 - Jul 14 by Swansea_Blue |
I read that as Michael Carrick’s take at first glance. He’s doing a good job at Man U but I'm not sure I’d trust his political opinions.
I see similarities in the manner of how the Tories and Labour have become less tolerant of broad views in their parties. I assume it’s inevitable if they’re going to push for ever greater polarisation. |
The problem is with the FPTP system only a small number of parties can be credible. This means that those parties need to be fairly broad in their intake.
By refusing entry you destroy the one benefit of the FPTP system, in that a party needs to appeal to a reasonably broad spectrum of voters.
It will ultimately make the voters even more disenfranchised than they already are.
As for obsession over the ECHR, it's shocking that that is the Tory bedrock. We will join Russia in not being a member! It will destroy the EU trade deal and create a hard border in Ireland. Just so we can deport people. Awesome. |  | | |
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| A narrow church on 18:34 - Jul 14 with 730 views | DJR |
| A narrow church on 18:17 - Jul 14 by Swansea_Blue |
I read that as Michael Carrick’s take at first glance. He’s doing a good job at Man U but I'm not sure I’d trust his political opinions.
I see similarities in the manner of how the Tories and Labour have become less tolerant of broad views in their parties. I assume it’s inevitable if they’re going to push for ever greater polarisation. |
And polarisation to the right, sadly.
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| A narrow church on 21:06 - Jul 14 with 624 views | eireblue |
| A narrow church on 17:59 - Jul 14 by Swansea_Blue |
Cheddar-lover? Count me in, where do I sign up.
I’ve found it a fascinating little episode that says a lot about why the Tories are failing and the shortcomings of thin-skinned Badenoch. They’re depressingly MAGA-light in so many ways. |
Narrow Church, must follow leader, a complete bunch of them.
Cult like, definitively. | | | |
| A narrow church on 15:08 - Jul 15 with 407 views | DJR |
This didn't really get the publicity it should have given it had shades of Watergate.
https://www.private-eye.co.uk/
One of the journalist targeted was Paul Holden who wrote the book The Fraud: Keir Starmer, Morgan McSweeney, and the Crisis of British Democracy
Rather bizarrely, Josh Simons is the MP who gave up his seat for Andy Burnham and appears to be back in the fold as a key adviser to Andy Burnham. [Post edited 15 Jul 15:08]
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| A narrow church on 18:53 - Jul 15 with 294 views | ITFC_Essex |
I am a conservative and I can tell you, Badenoch is bad news and has turned the party into a cult. She's got Reform-lite non-policy, she is lazy, arrogant, a terrible local MP and as an opposition leader has lost a record number of councillors. She says she doesn't need to act as she has a long term plan, which she does, it's her, and what she can get. |  |
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