| What the **** is the matter with our society? 10:02 - Aug 6 with 1450 views | NthQldITFC |
https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/26
Lad has to pay £150 to access a police report so that he can make an insurance claim against a driver who pulled out in front of him.
There's no sane human world in which that sort of thing is monetised.
We've allowed ourselves to become a sad, miserable, uptight, anally-retentive, procedure-driven, money-obsessed society from top to bottom. It's sick.
Where's decency? Where's getting on with things? Where's common sense and helping each other out? Where's society? |  |
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| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 11:49 - Aug 6 with 1220 views | Basuco |
A few years ago I stopped at an accident near where I live where a car hit a cyclist causing very severe injuries, the air ambulance attended and the cyclist was in hospital for many weeks, the police were going to leave his his cycle by the road side, it was a £3k to £4k cycle in my estimation, I said to the policeman that will not last long there so I took it home and asked him to pass on to the cyclist my details. On his discharge from hospital the guy called me and came to collect his damaged cycle and asked if I knew the car driver as the police would not reveal his details due to data protection, saying he should have took the driver details at the time. Even after explaining the severity of his injuries they would not pass on any details at all. Luckily I did know where the driver lived so was able to pass that bit on, I do not know if he was able to secure a claim for his damaged cycle but it was ridiculous that police refused to hand over any driver details to a badly injured victim with life changing injuries. |  | | |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 11:56 - Aug 6 with 1171 views | badadski |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 11:49 - Aug 6 by Basuco |
A few years ago I stopped at an accident near where I live where a car hit a cyclist causing very severe injuries, the air ambulance attended and the cyclist was in hospital for many weeks, the police were going to leave his his cycle by the road side, it was a £3k to £4k cycle in my estimation, I said to the policeman that will not last long there so I took it home and asked him to pass on to the cyclist my details. On his discharge from hospital the guy called me and came to collect his damaged cycle and asked if I knew the car driver as the police would not reveal his details due to data protection, saying he should have took the driver details at the time. Even after explaining the severity of his injuries they would not pass on any details at all. Luckily I did know where the driver lived so was able to pass that bit on, I do not know if he was able to secure a claim for his damaged cycle but it was ridiculous that police refused to hand over any driver details to a badly injured victim with life changing injuries. |
in fairness its understandable why they didn't, not just data protection but he could have wanted retribution or took it badly. I understand he was seriously injured but accidents happen. His insurance company, if the expensive bike was insured would have been able to attain these details from the police or even directly just from the registration assuming the car was registered to the driver. |  | | |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 13:13 - Aug 6 with 943 views | OldFart71 |
My opinion is where years ago to a great degree you could be naive because in general people didn't take advantage of you.
Today unfortunately because of all types of scams and greed where the simplest things have a price attached to them you have to be on your guard 24/7.
People who lived in the sticks may have been considered carrot crunchers but believe me although many didn't have much in the way of assets they were happy and life was much slower and simpler.
As a kid I could go for a bike ride, be out all day with my mates. Take a bottle of water and a sandwich with me and I'd be o.k. Either that or we would go on the local football field with a radio or a football. Sometimes early evening we would have a whole load of us there and pick two teams and play a game of cricket.
Sometimes I would cycle to mt Grans house a couple of miles away, leave my bike at hers and find my mates who lived there.
Obviously you have to make the most of the times you live in. But I am just glad that my years through to a teenager were the 50's and 60's. Great music, great mates, a loving family and just a wonderful time although the best part of school was when the bus turned up in the afternoon to pick us up. | | | |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 13:35 - Aug 6 with 870 views | stonojnr |
There's a formal disclosure process you have to go through, they dont just share out people's details. Unfortunately that process now includes an admin charge, because it costs them time and money to respond, but varies on what detail you're after, the 150quid is going to be for the full collision report. It should be nearer £50quid just for driver details that your solicitor or insurers can then claim against.
Of course you just add this cost then in as part of your claim against the other parties insurers.
But this where two separate things help you, 1) join British Cycling or CyclingUK you get insurance and a group of specialist bicycle solicitors used to dealing with this stuff to sort it all out for you, you must however be a member before the crash, they can only advise you how to proceed if you arent covered at the time of the crash and then theyd probably tell you in that case to 2) speak to CAMS https://cams-cycling.co.uk/ again specialists in dealing with claims affecting cyclists.
Most cyclists are covered by legal cover through human insurance, but theyre not specialists and ime are rarely up to task of pursuing cases like this. The specialist ones know what theyre doing. | | | |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 14:10 - Aug 6 with 783 views | Pinewoodblue |
Been that way for over 50 years, although price has increased significantly.
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Fuller answer. Goes back to Road Traffic Act 1960. The rational was to prevent the public purse from funding private civil disputes, the Home Office authorised police authorities to charge insurance firms and legal representatives a fee to recoup the administrative costs of pulling, duplicating, and vetting these statements.
Back in the day the price varied between Police Forces. I, at one time, had a task of maintaining register , where to apply, contact name and prices. Now, I believe, set fees.
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| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 15:04 - Aug 6 with 614 views | Basuco |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 11:56 - Aug 6 by badadski |
in fairness its understandable why they didn't, not just data protection but he could have wanted retribution or took it badly. I understand he was seriously injured but accidents happen. His insurance company, if the expensive bike was insured would have been able to attain these details from the police or even directly just from the registration assuming the car was registered to the driver. |
I do not know if the cyclist was insured or not but don't think so, I only met him the twice, but the car driver was at fault for the accident and month's later the cyclist was unable to drive, cycle or climb stairs and struggled to even walk on a flat path, due to being hit by a car through no fault of his own and unable to get any details to claim against the driver. Just seems wrong to me, as I said I have no way of knowing what the eventual outcome was.
It would have been the same if he was walking on a path and hit by a car, how would he be able to claim compensation then? | | | |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 16:47 - Aug 6 with 414 views | LeoMuff |
| What the **** is the matter with our society? on 15:04 - Aug 6 by Basuco |
I do not know if the cyclist was insured or not but don't think so, I only met him the twice, but the car driver was at fault for the accident and month's later the cyclist was unable to drive, cycle or climb stairs and struggled to even walk on a flat path, due to being hit by a car through no fault of his own and unable to get any details to claim against the driver. Just seems wrong to me, as I said I have no way of knowing what the eventual outcome was.
It would have been the same if he was walking on a path and hit by a car, how would he be able to claim compensation then? |
Nuts, it’s a mad world. |  |
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