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The Falklands 12:26 - Sep 4 with 1969 viewsBelsteadCav

A lot of sabre rattling by Argentina this morning, especially now as it looks like Trump is getting involved.
Our Armed forces are in a mess at the moment, the government have even cancelled training, trying to save 30m, which is a drop in the ocean. If we can’t spend 30m on training we are in a lot of trouble.

I know Argentina are in a worse state than us, but would Trump give them weapons and planes?
Because after all, he loves oil and it looks like we’ve found a massive oil field out there.

I know we have 4 Euro fighters down there, and over a 1000 soldiers, but it’s still a worry. We definitely couldn’t get a task force ready, every single submarine we have is in fas lane at the moment for repairs. Same for most of the navy.

Worrying times, but hey are new Prime minister likes oasis
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The Falklands on 13:15 - Sep 4 with 293 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:06 - Sep 4 by positivity

what conspiracy theory is this and why were all the conservative prime ministers in recent years in on it?

are trump and badenoch going to reveal themselves as lizard people?


Tory labour same thing, The Uni party wants us back in the EU ( I know most of the board wouldn’t mind that ) and the European army is the only way forward now we’ve cut ties with the US.

There’s loads of conspiracy theories about the European army and the UN taking over our armed forces.

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The Falklands on 13:18 - Sep 4 with 281 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:10 - Sep 4 by positivity

lowe would roll over and do exactly what musk/trump told him to do. he's a good little traitor and he knows where his funding comes from

musk is a big fan of milei...


I don’t think he would 🤷🏼‍♂️

But we’ll probably never find out

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The Falklands on 13:18 - Sep 4 with 281 viewsBlueschev

The Falklands on 13:15 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Tory labour same thing, The Uni party wants us back in the EU ( I know most of the board wouldn’t mind that ) and the European army is the only way forward now we’ve cut ties with the US.

There’s loads of conspiracy theories about the European army and the UN taking over our armed forces.


The Tories want us back in the EU? They've kept that quiet!
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The Falklands on 13:21 - Sep 4 with 267 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:18 - Sep 4 by Blueschev

The Tories want us back in the EU? They've kept that quiet!


Cameron never wanted us to leave, that’s why he left us in a mess once we had the vote

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The Falklands on 13:22 - Sep 4 with 261 viewsStokieBlue

The Falklands on 13:15 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Tory labour same thing, The Uni party wants us back in the EU ( I know most of the board wouldn’t mind that ) and the European army is the only way forward now we’ve cut ties with the US.

There’s loads of conspiracy theories about the European army and the UN taking over our armed forces.


What would be wrong with a European army? Sounds pretty sensible in the current climate given the scale needed to counter the perceived threats.

Why would the UN control our armed forces?

SB

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The Falklands on 13:23 - Sep 4 with 260 viewsBlueschev

The Falklands on 13:21 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Cameron never wanted us to leave, that’s why he left us in a mess once we had the vote


Cameron hasn't been Tory leader for a decade, and the Beatles broke up.
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The Falklands on 13:23 - Sep 4 with 262 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:12 - Sep 4 by StokieBlue

Well he's been a cabinet minister previously as well as held shadow ministerial roles so he clearly does have the credentials. It is also correct that he wasn't an MP again until recently so he's not really to blame for what he's being blamed for.

SB


Again I disagree, it would have been his choice to cancel the armed forces from training

30m is basically saving a couple of quid in the grand scheme of things

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The Falklands on 13:24 - Sep 4 with 245 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:23 - Sep 4 by Blueschev

Cameron hasn't been Tory leader for a decade, and the Beatles broke up.


And Shergar won the Derby by 10 lengths 🤣

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The Falklands on 13:27 - Sep 4 with 228 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:22 - Sep 4 by StokieBlue

What would be wrong with a European army? Sounds pretty sensible in the current climate given the scale needed to counter the perceived threats.

Why would the UN control our armed forces?

SB


I’d stick with NATO at the moment
America are still the no.1 army in the world, and I’d rather be on their side then the French

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The Falklands on 13:38 - Sep 4 with 219 viewsGuthrum

They haven't cancelled all training, just prioritised certain bits of it, namely deployments, quick reaction and drone warfare.

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The Falklands on 13:39 - Sep 4 with 220 viewsFtnfwest

With a fuller set of armaments than they have now the fascists couldn't overcome 35 royal marines who had to be told to surrender by the governor to stop reprisals on civilians.
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The Falklands on 13:41 - Sep 4 with 212 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:38 - Sep 4 by Guthrum

They haven't cancelled all training, just prioritised certain bits of it, namely deployments, quick reaction and drone warfare.


Well that’s good to hear

In this day and age I think we should be spending more on our troops not less

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The Falklands on 13:49 - Sep 4 with 193 viewspositivity

The Falklands on 13:15 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Tory labour same thing, The Uni party wants us back in the EU ( I know most of the board wouldn’t mind that ) and the European army is the only way forward now we’ve cut ties with the US.

There’s loads of conspiracy theories about the European army and the UN taking over our armed forces.


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The Falklands on 13:51 - Sep 4 with 193 viewsGuthrum

The Falklands on 13:41 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Well that’s good to hear

In this day and age I think we should be spending more on our troops not less


A large amount more is being spent, jut not necessarily on the Army. Other sectors such as cyber defence and infrastructure hardening are equally, if not more important in the today's environment.

We need technicians and computer specialists more than tanks and infantry. Plus drone and anti-drone technology. Intelligence gathering, just in case the Americans decide not to be so helpful any more. Networks and alliances, to replace NATO, if that becomes necessary.

Lots of stuff to spend money on other than training of UK-based (noon-deploying) troops. As you say, £30m is a small amount, so I doubt that many excercises have been cut, in reality. Tho that won't stop the military lobby beefing about it to the press.

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The Falklands on 13:52 - Sep 4 with 186 viewspositivity

The Falklands on 13:18 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

I don’t think he would 🤷🏼‍♂️

But we’ll probably never find out


he's had plenty of chances to stand up for the uk against trump and musk, and failed every time.

he will always side with musk and musk will always side with milei

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The Falklands on 13:54 - Sep 4 with 178 viewspositivity

The Falklands on 13:27 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

I’d stick with NATO at the moment
America are still the no.1 army in the world, and I’d rather be on their side then the French


trump's america are far more likely to support milei than the uk under any pm.

they're not on our side, no matter how much you wish for it!

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The Falklands on 13:56 - Sep 4 with 170 viewscressi

Film another episode of Top Gear out there you know it makes sense.
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The Falklands on 13:57 - Sep 4 with 172 viewsJ2BLUE

We need an urgent national review of where the hell our money goes. We are taxed to death and yet we don't seem to have a pot to p1ss in. I've seen the breakdowns on the government website but I want a lot more detail.
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The Falklands on 14:00 - Sep 4 with 158 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:57 - Sep 4 by J2BLUE

We need an urgent national review of where the hell our money goes. We are taxed to death and yet we don't seem to have a pot to p1ss in. I've seen the breakdowns on the government website but I want a lot more detail.


Totally agree

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The Falklands on 14:01 - Sep 4 with 160 viewspositivity

The Falklands on 13:57 - Sep 4 by J2BLUE

We need an urgent national review of where the hell our money goes. We are taxed to death and yet we don't seem to have a pot to p1ss in. I've seen the breakdowns on the government website but I want a lot more detail.


how expensive do you want this national review to be and what would you cut to pay for it?

an ageing population and triple-locked pensions would count for a hell of a lot of it, but who's going to vote for increased immigration and cutting pensions?

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The Falklands on 14:01 - Sep 4 with 157 viewsBelsteadCav

The Falklands on 13:56 - Sep 4 by cressi

Film another episode of Top Gear out there you know it makes sense.


That would go down well

I bet Clarkson is on the Argentine black list

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The Falklands on 14:05 - Sep 4 with 148 viewsGuthrum

The Falklands on 13:57 - Sep 4 by J2BLUE

We need an urgent national review of where the hell our money goes. We are taxed to death and yet we don't seem to have a pot to p1ss in. I've seen the breakdowns on the government website but I want a lot more detail.


Mostly people's wages and salaries, plus legal fees.

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The Falklands on 14:09 - Sep 4 with 133 viewsStokieBlue

The Falklands on 13:27 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

I’d stick with NATO at the moment
America are still the no.1 army in the world, and I’d rather be on their side then the French


Why would a European army not be part of NATO?

Any reason you don't want to be on the same side as the French?

The US is incredibly unreliable at the moment.

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The Falklands on 14:15 - Sep 4 with 106 viewsStokieBlue

The Falklands on 13:57 - Sep 4 by J2BLUE

We need an urgent national review of where the hell our money goes. We are taxed to death and yet we don't seem to have a pot to p1ss in. I've seen the breakdowns on the government website but I want a lot more detail.


That's not really true though.

Denmark, France, Austria, Belgium, Germany all have an overall individual tax burden larger than the UK.

I do agree we can do better with the money we have but the simple fact is that the majority of people in the country want the country to live either beyond it's means or are unwilling to pay for the way they want the country to work.

SB

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The Falklands on 14:20 - Sep 4 with 90 viewsMattinLondon

The Falklands on 13:15 - Sep 4 by BelsteadCav

Tory labour same thing, The Uni party wants us back in the EU ( I know most of the board wouldn’t mind that ) and the European army is the only way forward now we’ve cut ties with the US.

There’s loads of conspiracy theories about the European army and the UN taking over our armed forces.


It’s quite disingenuous to say that we’ve cut ties with the US - rather it’s Trump’s unreliability which has made military cooperation with the EU etc much more important.
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