| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again 17:50 - Sep 13 with 1691 views | pointofblue |
And Haaland looked offside as well, though we may get a replay to show he is apparently on. |  |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:52 - Sep 13 with 1208 views | blueprint |
And poor old Gary Neville is now confused about the rules. Bit like us Gary with that handball. |  | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:53 - Sep 13 with 1193 views | Trequartista |
Replay he looks off as well. Some obscure rule no-one knows will be quoted soon i guess to justify VAR meddling in football again. [Post edited 13 Sep 17:53]
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:54 - Sep 13 with 1147 views | dyersdream |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:54 - Sep 13 with 1134 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Came off Dorgu I think. |  |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:55 - Sep 13 with 1120 views | LankHenners |
Think it's just a tight one and he was onside. Neville thought he looked off so has confused himself into thinking there's a more confusing reason for it being allowed. |  |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:55 - Sep 13 with 1110 views | Bugs |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:53 - Sep 13 by Trequartista |
Replay he looks off as well. Some obscure rule no-one knows will be quoted soon i guess to justify VAR meddling in football again. [Post edited 13 Sep 17:53]
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I think the defender stretching his foot trying to block the cross has played him on. |  | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:55 - Sep 13 with 1094 views | Trequartista |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:54 - Sep 13 by pointofblue |
Maybe because he wasn't deliberately offside?  |
To be fair it was Dorgu playing him on, on the other side, now confirmed | |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:56 - Sep 13 with 1072 views | iamatractorboy |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:55 - Sep 13 by Bugs |
I think the defender stretching his foot trying to block the cross has played him on. |
Yep that was my immediate thought. Not sure why the commentators are so confused. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:56 - Sep 13 with 1058 views | charlie1 |
Haaland may not have been offside but Enzo Fernandez has to be!!
He made a very clear attempt to head the ball, missing it by a whisker at most.
The keeper has to react to the attempt by Enzo, meaning he can't get across to Haaland.
What am I missing? | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:58 - Sep 13 with 1039 views | pointofblue |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:56 - Sep 13 by charlie1 |
Haaland may not have been offside but Enzo Fernandez has to be!!
He made a very clear attempt to head the ball, missing it by a whisker at most.
The keeper has to react to the attempt by Enzo, meaning he can't get across to Haaland.
What am I missing? |
This. How can they say Fernandez wasn't interfering with play? | |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:58 - Sep 13 with 1033 views | bsw72 |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:52 - Sep 13 by blueprint |
And poor old Gary Neville is now confused about the rules. Bit like us Gary with that handball. |
The ignorance of so called experts understanding the laws of the game. To me on the replay it was obvious there was a chance that the foot of the defender played Haaland onside and the only question was whether Fernandez’s attempted header made contact.
Listening to the commentator and Neville discussing whether the deflection off the defender made any difference was frankly embarrassing. |  | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:59 - Sep 13 with 1005 views | Blue_Heath |
Ball came off Utd player so not offside, unlucky Maguire. | |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:01 - Sep 13 with 960 views | iamatractorboy |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:58 - Sep 13 by pointofblue |
This. How can they say Fernandez wasn't interfering with play? |
Ah yeh, having watched the replay I totally agree, he clearly influenced the defenders actions there. So he should have been given offside. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:02 - Sep 13 with 966 views | bsw72 |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:58 - Sep 13 by pointofblue |
This. How can they say Fernandez wasn't interfering with play? |
Ifab law 11. Only interfering if:
- Interfering with play: Playing or touching the ball.
- Interfering with an opponent: Obstructing an opponent's line of vision, challenging for the ball, or impacting their ability to play.
- Gaining an advantage: Playing the ball or interfering after a rebound, deflection, or save off the woodwork or an opponent.
None of the above apply to Fernandez. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:02 - Sep 13 with 955 views | One_Bobby_Petta |
God I hate Gary Neville
“Someone is going to have to explain the offside rule to me”
“Although it’s a goal something feels wrong”
“When they look back at this they’ll admit there’s something wrong”
Different when the boot is on the other foot
Odious little berk | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:03 - Sep 13 with 938 views | pointofblue |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:02 - Sep 13 by bsw72 |
Ifab law 11. Only interfering if:
- Interfering with play: Playing or touching the ball.
- Interfering with an opponent: Obstructing an opponent's line of vision, challenging for the ball, or impacting their ability to play.
- Gaining an advantage: Playing the ball or interfering after a rebound, deflection, or save off the woodwork or an opponent.
None of the above apply to Fernandez. |
He challenged for the ball. He dived for it, meaning Lammens had to consider his presence, therefore impacting his ability to play? | |
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:04 - Sep 13 with 922 views | Blue_Heath |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:02 - Sep 13 by One_Bobby_Petta |
God I hate Gary Neville
“Someone is going to have to explain the offside rule to me”
“Although it’s a goal something feels wrong”
“When they look back at this they’ll admit there’s something wrong”
Different when the boot is on the other foot
Odious little berk |
Nothing wrong with that goal.
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| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:07 - Sep 13 with 866 views | CrayonKing |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:02 - Sep 13 by bsw72 |
Ifab law 11. Only interfering if:
- Interfering with play: Playing or touching the ball.
- Interfering with an opponent: Obstructing an opponent's line of vision, challenging for the ball, or impacting their ability to play.
- Gaining an advantage: Playing the ball or interfering after a rebound, deflection, or save off the woodwork or an opponent.
None of the above apply to Fernandez. |
Does trying to head it not count as challenging for the ball?
Not being argumentative - I genuinely don't understand the rules any more! |  | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:09 - Sep 13 with 841 views | bsw72 |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:03 - Sep 13 by pointofblue |
He challenged for the ball. He dived for it, meaning Lammens had to consider his presence, therefore impacting his ability to play? |
Nope. That is not covered by the laws. Unless Fernandez has obstructed the keeper’s dive or impeded his line of sight, neither of which it did. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:11 - Sep 13 with 823 views | bsw72 |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:07 - Sep 13 by CrayonKing |
Does trying to head it not count as challenging for the ball?
Not being argumentative - I genuinely don't understand the rules any more! |
Not challenging for the ball, challenging the defender which prevents him getting to the ball. He would had to have either obstructed the defender or keeper in some way or made contact with the ball. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:11 - Sep 13 with 804 views | dyersdream |
Apparently you can catch the ball and still score !! | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:12 - Sep 13 with 792 views | franz_tyson |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:58 - Sep 13 by bsw72 |
The ignorance of so called experts understanding the laws of the game. To me on the replay it was obvious there was a chance that the foot of the defender played Haaland onside and the only question was whether Fernandez’s attempted header made contact.
Listening to the commentator and Neville discussing whether the deflection off the defender made any difference was frankly embarrassing. |
Well if you're so smart, then tell us why that should be allowed in tbe interests of the game.... not because of some loophole or blind spot in the lawbook
Haaland didn't take up that position thinking it would get a touch of the defender and make him onside. He inadvertently took up an offside position... and got rewarded for it by a slight touch from a defender ( that only several minutes of VAR ) could decipher.
We're making football so unnecessarily complicated. And we're making ourselves so reliant on VAR decisions and tootball lawyers. It should have been offside, whether it was touched or not. It's a daft rule as it rewards bad play ie being in an offside position.
Sorry, but we don't need to make things so complicated. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:14 - Sep 13 with 748 views | EastTownBlue |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 17:59 - Sep 13 by Blue_Heath |
Ball came off Utd player so not offside, unlucky Maguire. |
A deflection doesn't count as delibrate play by the defender. It was all about Enzo's involvement. | | | |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:15 - Sep 13 with 735 views | pointofblue |
| Five hours for VAR to make a decision... again on 18:11 - Sep 13 by bsw72 |
Not challenging for the ball, challenging the defender which prevents him getting to the ball. He would had to have either obstructed the defender or keeper in some way or made contact with the ball. |
They're making it ridiculously complicated now. Like the handball rule. | |
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