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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) 08:55 - Mar 19 with 3017 viewsconnorscontract

I'm absolutely certain that this wasn't the intention of those who drew up the Bill of Rights.

A 9 year old boy had an argument with his 13 year old sister about a video game controller. Then he shot her dead.

Nine years old.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43455550
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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:21 - Mar 19 with 2975 viewsSwansea_Blue

*Waits for Trump to tweet that the sister should have been armed*

It's rare for this situation, but tragic and unavoidable. Nothing's going to change no matter how many incidents they have; gun ownership is too ingrained in the culture.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:22 - Mar 19 with 2972 viewsKeno

But if the girl had had an AK47 with a butt stock she would have been ok


seriously that is an awful story, the NRA should be ashemed

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:31 - Mar 19 with 2964 viewsGuthrum

Indeed not, as is obvious to everyone bar the US judiciary (who ruled that inconvenient parts of the 2nd Amendment could be ignored).

In the absence of a regular army or much in the way of federal finances at the time, it was vital to have a trained and armed militia who could be called out quickly in times of crisis. With their own weapons to save the government needing to buy and store them. In any case, a lot of people had rifles/muskets for hunting.

Nowadays it has more to do with suburban, employed Americans living out a film-myth of gunslinging frontiersmen, tough and self-reliant. Combined with a paranoic fear of the centralised government which has provided them with the environment in which they can live and work (mostly) in comfort and security.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:34 - Mar 19 with 2956 viewsconnorscontract

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:21 - Mar 19 by Swansea_Blue

*Waits for Trump to tweet that the sister should have been armed*

It's rare for this situation, but tragic and unavoidable. Nothing's going to change no matter how many incidents they have; gun ownership is too ingrained in the culture.


Unavoidable?

1. Run an advertising campaign every ad break on every channel every day stating the facts:

"You and your family are more at risk from your own guns than anybody else's."

2. Pay people to hand over guns.

3. Ban hand guns and semi-automatics. Allow only rifles.

Not impossible at all, the Republicans just won't do it. Roll-on the Congressional Elections in November.
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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:52 - Mar 19 with 2939 viewsnc41

Always like Jim Jefferies take on it. Worth watching if you haven't seen it.


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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 12:44 - Mar 19 with 2866 viewsDarth_Koont

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:34 - Mar 19 by connorscontract

Unavoidable?

1. Run an advertising campaign every ad break on every channel every day stating the facts:

"You and your family are more at risk from your own guns than anybody else's."

2. Pay people to hand over guns.

3. Ban hand guns and semi-automatics. Allow only rifles.

Not impossible at all, the Republicans just won't do it. Roll-on the Congressional Elections in November.


I think I'm right in saying that a lot of Democrats won't do it either as it's still a vote-loser in a lot of states and districts.

How many people have to die before there's a change? Probably a whole generation of voters and that's still hoping younger generation start to think significantly different.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 12:47 - Mar 19 with 2859 viewsPinewoodblue

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:31 - Mar 19 by Guthrum

Indeed not, as is obvious to everyone bar the US judiciary (who ruled that inconvenient parts of the 2nd Amendment could be ignored).

In the absence of a regular army or much in the way of federal finances at the time, it was vital to have a trained and armed militia who could be called out quickly in times of crisis. With their own weapons to save the government needing to buy and store them. In any case, a lot of people had rifles/muskets for hunting.

Nowadays it has more to do with suburban, employed Americans living out a film-myth of gunslinging frontiersmen, tough and self-reliant. Combined with a paranoic fear of the centralised government which has provided them with the environment in which they can live and work (mostly) in comfort and security.


2ng amendment gives the right to bear arms as part of a well run militia, it doesn't even give citizens the right to buy arms?

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 13:03 - Mar 19 with 2840 viewswellsy700

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:21 - Mar 19 by Swansea_Blue

*Waits for Trump to tweet that the sister should have been armed*

It's rare for this situation, but tragic and unavoidable. Nothing's going to change no matter how many incidents they have; gun ownership is too ingrained in the culture.


Is it rare though?

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 13:11 - Mar 19 with 2828 viewsGuthrum

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 12:47 - Mar 19 by Pinewoodblue

2ng amendment gives the right to bear arms as part of a well run militia, it doesn't even give citizens the right to buy arms?


In legal terms of the time, it encompasses owning and carrying weapons (e.g. in pre-Revolutionary France you could tell the village seigneur because he was the raggedy bloke who happened to have a sword - only nobles having the right to bear arms, however poor).

It's the bit about being part of a "well ordered militia" which gets ignored - backed up by a 2008 Supreme Court judgement which essentially discarded part of the Bill of Rights.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 22:12 - Mar 19 with 2771 viewsflimflam


All men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 22:33 - Mar 19 with 2753 viewsmos

In most states you can possess a gun no matter your age (no minimum).

But you can’t drink alcoholic beverages until your 21.
Cracking stuff.

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Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 01:16 - Mar 20 with 2692 viewshorsehollerer

Guns in the USA (Part 3,786,543) on 09:31 - Mar 19 by Guthrum

Indeed not, as is obvious to everyone bar the US judiciary (who ruled that inconvenient parts of the 2nd Amendment could be ignored).

In the absence of a regular army or much in the way of federal finances at the time, it was vital to have a trained and armed militia who could be called out quickly in times of crisis. With their own weapons to save the government needing to buy and store them. In any case, a lot of people had rifles/muskets for hunting.

Nowadays it has more to do with suburban, employed Americans living out a film-myth of gunslinging frontiersmen, tough and self-reliant. Combined with a paranoic fear of the centralised government which has provided them with the environment in which they can live and work (mostly) in comfort and security.


This was an interesting article from a few days ago about the very specific profile of the gun super-hoarders (3% of Americans own half the guns, 78% of US households don't own any)

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/why-are-white-men-stockpiling-

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