| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 16:14 - Oct 1 with 1990 views | Steve_M |
AH, this will be another 'academic' survey of the same kind that Labour pushed last year to cover from more of Corbyn's failings.
That Corbyn has admitted Labour has a problem with anti-semitism yet his supporters still push out this exculpatory bull sh1t is evidence of the scale of the problem. |  |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 16:40 - Oct 1 with 1955 views | BlueBadger |
If the Labour party had actually spent half as much time cracking down on the small number of anti-semites that have been allowed free rein rather than whining about media conspiracies they wouldn't have the rep the they do now. Allowing Ken Livingstone to quietly sidle out of the door rather than actually face the music for his repeat offending is a prime example here. |  |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 16:54 - Oct 1 with 1937 views | Swansea_Blue |
That's why we need to get out of the EU. What sort of organisation cracks down on lies in the media in this day and age? B@stards the lot of them. They'll be wanting to give people opportunities next.
In answer to the question, no it's no surprise at all. But that also doesn't mean there isn't a problem as there obviously is. |  |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 17:51 - Oct 1 with 1913 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 16:14 - Oct 1 by Steve_M |
AH, this will be another 'academic' survey of the same kind that Labour pushed last year to cover from more of Corbyn's failings.
That Corbyn has admitted Labour has a problem with anti-semitism yet his supporters still push out this exculpatory bull sh1t is evidence of the scale of the problem. |
Did you read the article? The very few countries & organisations that have signed up should raise any number of questions.
The people supporting the MFC are not low reant left wingers either.
I'm surprised people are not concerned about the lack of honesty & integrity in the British media but it is good to see the EU are making a move |  | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 18:07 - Oct 1 with 1902 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 17:51 - Oct 1 by No9 |
Did you read the article? The very few countries & organisations that have signed up should raise any number of questions.
The people supporting the MFC are not low reant left wingers either.
I'm surprised people are not concerned about the lack of honesty & integrity in the British media but it is good to see the EU are making a move |
I'm more concerned that you are in denial about the antisemitism problem in the Labour party.
I'm more concerned that Luciana Berger, a Jewish Labour MP who has been outspoken in her condemnation of Labour antisemitism, had to walk around last week's Labour party conference with a police escort because of a number of threats to her safety.
I'm more concerned that there are reports that as she walked into the building where the conference was being held, she was greeted by a number of Labour activists who hissed at her. Not hiss as in boo hiss but hiss as in the noise gas makes. |  |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 18:28 - Oct 1 with 1880 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 16:14 - Oct 1 by Steve_M |
AH, this will be another 'academic' survey of the same kind that Labour pushed last year to cover from more of Corbyn's failings.
That Corbyn has admitted Labour has a problem with anti-semitism yet his supporters still push out this exculpatory bull sh1t is evidence of the scale of the problem. |
You may find this an interesting read Steve.
http://publicpolicypast.blogspot.com/2018/09/is-labour-party-institutionally-rac | |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:01 - Oct 1 with 1864 views | BlueBadger |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 18:07 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm more concerned that you are in denial about the antisemitism problem in the Labour party.
I'm more concerned that Luciana Berger, a Jewish Labour MP who has been outspoken in her condemnation of Labour antisemitism, had to walk around last week's Labour party conference with a police escort because of a number of threats to her safety.
I'm more concerned that there are reports that as she walked into the building where the conference was being held, she was greeted by a number of Labour activists who hissed at her. Not hiss as in boo hiss but hiss as in the noise gas makes. |
Lest we forget, the official Momentum view is that antemitism is 'more widespread than thought' and shouldn't be dismissed as 'rightwing smears'.
Basically, Fred is the sort of person that the Labour party shouldn't be associated with at all. | |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:42 - Oct 1 with 1839 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 18:07 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm more concerned that you are in denial about the antisemitism problem in the Labour party.
I'm more concerned that Luciana Berger, a Jewish Labour MP who has been outspoken in her condemnation of Labour antisemitism, had to walk around last week's Labour party conference with a police escort because of a number of threats to her safety.
I'm more concerned that there are reports that as she walked into the building where the conference was being held, she was greeted by a number of Labour activists who hissed at her. Not hiss as in boo hiss but hiss as in the noise gas makes. |
It isn't about the labour party or any individual but about the standard and accuracy of reporting
You didn't read the article did you?
And, as fo an anti semitic party don't forget the current conservative party is supporting the anti semitic Hungarian PM. Mr Gove refused to condemn Mr Orban didn't he? I guess you deliberatley missed that.
& I haven't seen much from you on the numbers of complaints from Conservative party members about the problems with Islamaphobia which still hasn't been addressed.
You are, in fact a prime example of the sort of disinformation Media Reform Coalition are monitoring,
Well done | | | |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:50 - Oct 1 with 1831 views | BlueBadger |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:42 - Oct 1 by No9 |
It isn't about the labour party or any individual but about the standard and accuracy of reporting
You didn't read the article did you?
And, as fo an anti semitic party don't forget the current conservative party is supporting the anti semitic Hungarian PM. Mr Gove refused to condemn Mr Orban didn't he? I guess you deliberatley missed that.
& I haven't seen much from you on the numbers of complaints from Conservative party members about the problems with Islamaphobia which still hasn't been addressed.
You are, in fact a prime example of the sort of disinformation Media Reform Coalition are monitoring,
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'But the other boys are doing it too' isn't an excuse, or a get-out.
Labour(note, how I've spelt it poprerly here) want to present themselves as being better than the Tories on relations with minority groups, then they have to BE better. That includes actually taking action on bigots when they surface and not, say, letting them sidle quietly out of the party as they did with Ken Livingstone. | |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:58 - Oct 1 with 1826 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:50 - Oct 1 by BlueBadger |
'But the other boys are doing it too' isn't an excuse, or a get-out.
Labour(note, how I've spelt it poprerly here) want to present themselves as being better than the Tories on relations with minority groups, then they have to BE better. That includes actually taking action on bigots when they surface and not, say, letting them sidle quietly out of the party as they did with Ken Livingstone. |
The point is the reporting of these issues not who is doing what.
Labour are getting bad press from mainstream media whether or not it is warranted, Media Reform Coalition are making the point the reporting is not accurate and is misleading.
This isn't the first organisation to come up with the evidence.
If, for example the BBC reported accurately on EU & brexit matters there may well be a realisation that there are going to be serious p[roblems in 6 months time but they don't. Why? Last week the BBC were all over the labour conference today very very little on what is happening at the tories show. Ch 4 was a completely different report Why? | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:04 - Oct 1 with 1816 views | BlueBadger |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:58 - Oct 1 by No9 |
The point is the reporting of these issues not who is doing what.
Labour are getting bad press from mainstream media whether or not it is warranted, Media Reform Coalition are making the point the reporting is not accurate and is misleading.
This isn't the first organisation to come up with the evidence.
If, for example the BBC reported accurately on EU & brexit matters there may well be a realisation that there are going to be serious p[roblems in 6 months time but they don't. Why? Last week the BBC were all over the labour conference today very very little on what is happening at the tories show. Ch 4 was a completely different report Why? |
But Momentum themselves have admitted there's a problem. Frankly, at this point the Labour party only have themselves to blame. They could have nipped this sh1t in the bud as soon as it raised its head by applying proper disclinary measures and actually making examples. Rather than letting it all drift.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/labour-antisemitism-more-widesp [Post edited 1 Oct 2018 20:06]
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:05 - Oct 1 with 1816 views | StokieBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 19:58 - Oct 1 by No9 |
The point is the reporting of these issues not who is doing what.
Labour are getting bad press from mainstream media whether or not it is warranted, Media Reform Coalition are making the point the reporting is not accurate and is misleading.
This isn't the first organisation to come up with the evidence.
If, for example the BBC reported accurately on EU & brexit matters there may well be a realisation that there are going to be serious p[roblems in 6 months time but they don't. Why? Last week the BBC were all over the labour conference today very very little on what is happening at the tories show. Ch 4 was a completely different report Why? |
Are you seriously saying the BBC heavily reported the Labour conference to make them look bad and aren't reporting the Tory one to make them look good?
Both points are total nonsense.
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:23 - Oct 1 with 1787 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 18:07 - Oct 1 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm more concerned that you are in denial about the antisemitism problem in the Labour party.
I'm more concerned that Luciana Berger, a Jewish Labour MP who has been outspoken in her condemnation of Labour antisemitism, had to walk around last week's Labour party conference with a police escort because of a number of threats to her safety.
I'm more concerned that there are reports that as she walked into the building where the conference was being held, she was greeted by a number of Labour activists who hissed at her. Not hiss as in boo hiss but hiss as in the noise gas makes. |
Can you explain the finer nuances of the different range of available hisses? |  |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 08:57 - Oct 2 with 1711 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:05 - Oct 1 by StokieBlue |
Are you seriously saying the BBC heavily reported the Labour conference to make them look bad and aren't reporting the Tory one to make them look good?
Both points are total nonsense.
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Did you watchhow little of the tory conference the BBC reported at 18.00 last night ?
Did you compare that with the comprehensive cover provided by Ch4 including Mr Hunt talking to an almost empty room?
Do you honestly think the BBC are putting as much effort into covering the tory conference as they did labour?
You must have a different broadcast where you are to out here in the sticks.
Did you see Marr on Sunday? Not one difficlut question for Mrs May, just as if Downing st had writtn the script. | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:02 - Oct 2 with 1701 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:04 - Oct 1 by BlueBadger |
But Momentum themselves have admitted there's a problem. Frankly, at this point the Labour party only have themselves to blame. They could have nipped this sh1t in the bud as soon as it raised its head by applying proper disclinary measures and actually making examples. Rather than letting it all drift.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/02/labour-antisemitism-more-widesp [Post edited 1 Oct 2018 20:06]
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I am not saying there isn't anti semitism in labour I was providing the report showing how it hasn't been handled evenly.
I also have to go back to the point where Mr Gove was asked to condemn the anti semitism shown by the Hanfarian PM, he would not and largely unreported is the support the tory MEP's gave to the anti semite party in Hungary in the EU parliament.
There is no doubt labour mismanaged the issue but likewise there is no doubt the media have whipped it up. | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:05 - Oct 2 with 1699 views | StokieBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 08:57 - Oct 2 by No9 |
Did you watchhow little of the tory conference the BBC reported at 18.00 last night ?
Did you compare that with the comprehensive cover provided by Ch4 including Mr Hunt talking to an almost empty room?
Do you honestly think the BBC are putting as much effort into covering the tory conference as they did labour?
You must have a different broadcast where you are to out here in the sticks.
Did you see Marr on Sunday? Not one difficlut question for Mrs May, just as if Downing st had writtn the script. |
I guess people see what they want as I thought that Marr interview was quite pressing.
The coverage is the same, you are looking for things that aren't there.
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:13 - Oct 2 with 1689 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:05 - Oct 2 by StokieBlue |
I guess people see what they want as I thought that Marr interview was quite pressing.
The coverage is the same, you are looking for things that aren't there.
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I was expecting Marr to do some pressign on many issues regarding brexit when all he did was go over old ground well covered previously with Mrs May sticking to her script.
He could easily has asked why she thought she could sell he chequers plan in Salzburg when she had been told verry publicly by her own party they wouldn't accept it?
``he could also have asked when the EU told the UK (many times) leaving the EU would mean the UK would become a third country and what thay meant when the UK has hundreds of International laws to tie up in things like aviation and joing u to the WTO (If Trump hasn't scuppered it by then)
He could also have asked what she thought of the EU meeting with the WTO last week & brexit was on the agenda or what she thinks the EU will discuss with their meeting with WTO & China this month
But NO stick to the Downing street script we already have the answers. | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:14 - Oct 2 with 1687 views | StokieBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:13 - Oct 2 by No9 |
I was expecting Marr to do some pressign on many issues regarding brexit when all he did was go over old ground well covered previously with Mrs May sticking to her script.
He could easily has asked why she thought she could sell he chequers plan in Salzburg when she had been told verry publicly by her own party they wouldn't accept it?
``he could also have asked when the EU told the UK (many times) leaving the EU would mean the UK would become a third country and what thay meant when the UK has hundreds of International laws to tie up in things like aviation and joing u to the WTO (If Trump hasn't scuppered it by then)
He could also have asked what she thought of the EU meeting with the WTO last week & brexit was on the agenda or what she thinks the EU will discuss with their meeting with WTO & China this month
But NO stick to the Downing street script we already have the answers. |
"But NO stick to the Downing street script we already have the answers."
A tiresome and incorrect narrative.
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:17 - Oct 2 with 1684 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:14 - Oct 2 by StokieBlue |
"But NO stick to the Downing street script we already have the answers."
A tiresome and incorrect narrative.
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Maybe but that is what he did.
The only time he looked like he might go off that was when he started on the subject of Windrush
When he put up the estimated numbers by which the economy would be hit she really sidestepped that & he didn't push at all.
No other party gets the kid glove treatment like that and nor should they
But on brexit his questions, by any standard, were insipid and weak | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:22 - Oct 2 with 1682 views | WD19 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:02 - Oct 2 by No9 |
I am not saying there isn't anti semitism in labour I was providing the report showing how it hasn't been handled evenly.
I also have to go back to the point where Mr Gove was asked to condemn the anti semitism shown by the Hanfarian PM, he would not and largely unreported is the support the tory MEP's gave to the anti semite party in Hungary in the EU parliament.
There is no doubt labour mismanaged the issue but likewise there is no doubt the media have whipped it up. |
We get that you don't like the BBC and you are now well past the point of being able to view the corporation objectively. That doesn't make you right. Other channels are available. |  | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:25 - Oct 2 with 1674 views | No9 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:22 - Oct 2 by WD19 |
We get that you don't like the BBC and you are now well past the point of being able to view the corporation objectively. That doesn't make you right. Other channels are available. |
Yep, I was comparing last night BBC with Ch 4
I do like some of the BBC stuff, some drama nature etc.etc.
They come up a bit short on sport these days particluarly with some low rent football pundits
But on news, current affairs and politics they have fallen very badly much important stuff gets 'overlooked' &since it went for advertising the World Service is a complete shambles (overseas) | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 12:17 - Oct 2 with 1630 views | WD19 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:25 - Oct 2 by No9 |
Yep, I was comparing last night BBC with Ch 4
I do like some of the BBC stuff, some drama nature etc.etc.
They come up a bit short on sport these days particluarly with some low rent football pundits
But on news, current affairs and politics they have fallen very badly much important stuff gets 'overlooked' &since it went for advertising the World Service is a complete shambles (overseas) |
I make you right on all of that....the BBC has dumbed down in a horrid way....but that is very different to any suggestion of bias. | | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 12:22 - Oct 2 with 1627 views | pickles110564 |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 09:25 - Oct 2 by No9 |
Yep, I was comparing last night BBC with Ch 4
I do like some of the BBC stuff, some drama nature etc.etc.
They come up a bit short on sport these days particluarly with some low rent football pundits
But on news, current affairs and politics they have fallen very badly much important stuff gets 'overlooked' &since it went for advertising the World Service is a complete shambles (overseas) |
Totally agree with you on the BBC not reporting on important issues.
Paris is a migrant tent city with issues happening all the time but it never gets reported. Italy and other countries are having issues with migrants too but again nothing is reported.
It is like they are stopping the general public in this country from finding out what is really going on, I wonder why that is? |  | | |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 12:33 - Oct 2 with 1617 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 20:23 - Oct 1 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Can you explain the finer nuances of the different range of available hisses? |
Take a trip to Stamford Bridge when they next play Spurs. You’ll get an idea of what it sounds like. | |
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| Media Reform Coalition & J Corbyn on 12:38 - Oct 2 with 1610 views | GlasgowBlue |
I see Corbyn has dropped his complaint over the wreath laying. The press told the truth. He didn’t. No change. | |
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