This sums up the FA for me 13:20 - Nov 15 with 2831 views | sparks | https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46202509 Ref makes a human mistake. Improvises in a pragmatic and entirely fair way. Causes no harm at all- save a little embarrassment for himself. Gets the book thrown at him for it. Havent they got better things to do? Like offering a modicum of support to grass roots clubs and managers rather than treating them like minions? | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:40 - Nov 15 with 2296 views | J2BLUE | Agree entirely. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:40 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | Agree entirely. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:43 - Nov 15 with 2281 views | J2BLUE |
Exactly the same thing. Well done. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:45 - Nov 15 with 2279 views | m14_blue |
Really? I make the OP spot on. | | | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:43 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | Exactly the same thing. Well done. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:49 - Nov 15 with 2267 views | J2BLUE |
That doesn't surprise me. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:49 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | That doesn't surprise me. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:55 - Nov 15 with 2246 views | J2BLUE |
Harsh punishment for a minor mistake. If he forgot his cards then fair enough. The pre match coin? Come on. It's meaningless. He replaced one 50/50 option with another. Would have been worse to delay kick off for ten minutes while he ran back and got his coin IMO. Would using one from a member of the crowd have been acceptable? He would still have forgotten his coin. Some common sense should be used rather than people getting outraged about nothing. If I was a manager and this happened I would make a point in my post match interview of praising the ref for his quick thinking and call for no punishment. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 14:55 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | Harsh punishment for a minor mistake. If he forgot his cards then fair enough. The pre match coin? Come on. It's meaningless. He replaced one 50/50 option with another. Would have been worse to delay kick off for ten minutes while he ran back and got his coin IMO. Would using one from a member of the crowd have been acceptable? He would still have forgotten his coin. Some common sense should be used rather than people getting outraged about nothing. If I was a manager and this happened I would make a point in my post match interview of praising the ref for his quick thinking and call for no punishment. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:01 - Nov 15 with 2213 views | J2BLUE |
Cards used multiple times and are a visual aid for the crowd. A coin makes little difference. We'll agree to disagree. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:01 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | Cards used multiple times and are a visual aid for the crowd. A coin makes little difference. We'll agree to disagree. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:04 - Nov 15 with 2207 views | m14_blue |
I get what you’re saying but there’s a danger we’re sucking any character and fun out of what’s meant to be a game. Everyone takes everything so seriously. See also the outraged response to Sterling taking the p1ss out of United at the end of their derby win the other day. Good on him I say. | | | |
This sums up the FA for me on 15:06 - Nov 15 with 2202 views | J2BLUE |
My last comment: It's so everything is uniform at each game. I get that. I think as a one off replacing a 50/50 method with another 50/50 method isn't a huge crime and a warning would have been sufficient. A one game ban perhaps if you wanted to be harsh and send a message. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:04 - Nov 15 by m14_blue | I get what you’re saying but there’s a danger we’re sucking any character and fun out of what’s meant to be a game. Everyone takes everything so seriously. See also the outraged response to Sterling taking the p1ss out of United at the end of their derby win the other day. Good on him I say. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:48 - Nov 15 with 2137 views | sparks |
This sums up the FA for me on 15:06 - Nov 15 by J2BLUE | My last comment: It's so everything is uniform at each game. I get that. I think as a one off replacing a 50/50 method with another 50/50 method isn't a huge crime and a warning would have been sufficient. A one game ban perhaps if you wanted to be harsh and send a message. |
Quite. I assume Libero is actually arguing that a 21 day ban for leaving your coin in the changing room on a single occasion is reasonable? I wouldnt bother arguing with him- his position is probably driven by the identity of the OP rather than the content. Everyone makes mistakes in their work every single week. Everyone. A single oversight, with no consequences of any substance, is not worth punishment. Not even a warning, frankly. He knows it was a silly error. He's embarrassed by it. He's unlikely to do it again. The FA are obsessed with treating everyone like naughty schoolchildren, as if their petty pedantic rules are actually really important. Its driving people out of the game. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 16:00 - Nov 15 with 2106 views | Reuser_is_God |
Sorry Libby but you're way off the mark in this thread. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:17 - Nov 15 with 2040 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s a simple mistake with no consequences though. Yet mistakes that can change the result of a game, potentially costing football clubs their place in a league and millions of pounds in revenue, aren’t handled like this. It’s petty imo. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:23 - Nov 15 with 2022 views | m14_blue |
Ok, perhaps outraged was the wrong word but there has been lots of talk about it. | | | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 15:48 - Nov 15 by sparks | Quite. I assume Libero is actually arguing that a 21 day ban for leaving your coin in the changing room on a single occasion is reasonable? I wouldnt bother arguing with him- his position is probably driven by the identity of the OP rather than the content. Everyone makes mistakes in their work every single week. Everyone. A single oversight, with no consequences of any substance, is not worth punishment. Not even a warning, frankly. He knows it was a silly error. He's embarrassed by it. He's unlikely to do it again. The FA are obsessed with treating everyone like naughty schoolchildren, as if their petty pedantic rules are actually really important. Its driving people out of the game. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:26 - Nov 15 with 2006 views | BackToRussia |
Re your first sentence. I wouldn't have known this had I not read the news article on this but a coin is not a required item for a referee to carry as set out by the FA's own rules. | |
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:26 - Nov 15 by BackToRussia | Re your first sentence. I wouldn't have known this had I not read the news article on this but a coin is not a required item for a referee to carry as set out by the FA's own rules. |
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:32 - Nov 15 with 1988 views | BackToRussia |
It's just not listed as an item for a referee to have. There's other stuff like cards and a whistle and a notebook (or some other way of making notes, it says, cryptically), but no coin. [Post edited 15 Nov 2018 17:32]
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:32 - Nov 15 by BackToRussia | It's just not listed as an item for a referee to have. There's other stuff like cards and a whistle and a notebook (or some other way of making notes, it says, cryptically), but no coin. [Post edited 15 Nov 2018 17:32]
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This sums up the FA for me on 17:47 - Nov 15 with 1960 views | Melford | This reminds me a call to Danny Baker ages ago there the ref forgot his whistle and had to improvise with a metal tea tray and wooden spoon. | |
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