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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while 09:10 - Feb 28 with 1240 viewsStokieBlue

"Since 2003, China has poured more cement every two years than the US managed in the entire 20th century."

Just think about that. All the interstates, cities like New York, military bases, airports - everything over 100 years and China pours that much concrete every 2 years.

The projects from an engineering viewpoint are works of wonder, nobody can deny that but given concrete production accounts for 8% of the worlds CO2 production and is very bad for the environment it seems to be a hidden element not really discuss when environmental issues are raised.

The structures are all amazing, I'd love to see them but it's also interesting to consider this "hidden" cost.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/28/the-grey-wall-of-china-inside-the

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/feb/25/concrete-is-tipping-us-into-clima

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:24 - Feb 28 with 1191 viewsLeaky

Interested to note that concrete producers 8% of the worlds co2. They have just poured 1000's of ton's of the stuff close to where I live to build 4 wind turbines
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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:28 - Feb 28 with 1177 viewschicoazul

that guy David Wallace Wells says basically the Chinese and the Indians are killing the planet and there is almost nothing we can do.

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:32 - Feb 28 with 1161 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Does it include the concrete they are pouring in Africa?

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:40 - Feb 28 with 1142 viewsWhymarkmariner

Yeah, but the US don't have as many gangsters as they used to.
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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:52 - Feb 28 with 1117 viewsWeWereZombies

This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:24 - Feb 28 by Leaky

Interested to note that concrete producers 8% of the worlds co2. They have just poured 1000's of ton's of the stuff close to where I live to build 4 wind turbines


The bases and access roads for 'big' wind 'farms' are a, mostly, unrecognised threat to wild spaces. The John Muir Trust seems to be forever bogged down in having to fight planning developments instead of promoting other aims because of industrial interests. I am not saying abandon wind power, just keep it small scale so it has little or no impact (and is consequently producing energy closer to where it is going to be used so that transfer costs and impact are also kept low.)

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:56 - Feb 28 with 1102 viewsStokieBlue

This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:52 - Feb 28 by WeWereZombies

The bases and access roads for 'big' wind 'farms' are a, mostly, unrecognised threat to wild spaces. The John Muir Trust seems to be forever bogged down in having to fight planning developments instead of promoting other aims because of industrial interests. I am not saying abandon wind power, just keep it small scale so it has little or no impact (and is consequently producing energy closer to where it is going to be used so that transfer costs and impact are also kept low.)


There are numerous designs currently being tested for floating wind turbines that are anchored and thus don't need all the concrete on the mast.

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:04 - Feb 28 with 1084 viewsBluefish

This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:28 - Feb 28 by chicoazul

that guy David Wallace Wells says basically the Chinese and the Indians are killing the planet and there is almost nothing we can do.


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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:32 - Feb 28 with 1030 viewsbluewein

Some pretty hard facts about cement there...

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:48 - Feb 28 with 995 viewsfooters

This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 09:28 - Feb 28 by chicoazul

that guy David Wallace Wells says basically the Chinese and the Indians are killing the planet and there is almost nothing we can do.


While it's all great for us to do our bit and reduce, reuse and recycle, as well as lobby MPs and companies to do more, this is sadly very true. The US is also a huge polluter. These are structural issues that require a huge amount of change, but sadly I don't see human greed and idiocy giving way in the near future.

But of course, that doesn't mean we shouldn't all continue being good eggs.

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:54 - Feb 28 with 983 viewscaught-in-limbo

One man's progress is another man's destruction.

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This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:56 - Feb 28 with 978 viewsfooters

This is bonkers if you stop and think about it for a while on 10:54 - Feb 28 by caught-in-limbo

One man's progress is another man's destruction.



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