| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 22:54 - Jun 5 with 1804 views | Oldsmoker |
The reputation of our country went from in the toilet to round the U-bend and then into the sewer. EU countries will be glad when we're gone. |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 22:58 - Jun 5 with 1792 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 22:54 - Jun 5 by Oldsmoker |
The reputation of our country went from in the toilet to round the U-bend and then into the sewer. EU countries will be glad when we're gone. |
Despite our enthusiastic efforts at urban regeneration? 
I can’t begin to imagine what goes through people’s heads. So many aggressive morons around these days (and have been for a while in footie, to be honest). |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 23:15 - Jun 5 with 1758 views | Oldsmoker |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 22:58 - Jun 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Despite our enthusiastic efforts at urban regeneration?
I can’t begin to imagine what goes through people’s heads. So many aggressive morons around these days (and have been for a while in footie, to be honest). |
Me neither.
My social scene throughout my life has always included women.
Even on a lads night out, one or two of us will bring our partners.
Maybe these guys just need to get laid. | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:28 - Jun 6 with 1570 views | Slambo |
No doubt there were some utter scumbags in amongst all that, but not sure what that lad in the black t-shirt holding the pint did to deserve getting truncheoned in the leg like that... |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:33 - Jun 6 with 1556 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:28 - Jun 6 by Slambo |
No doubt there were some utter scumbags in amongst all that, but not sure what that lad in the black t-shirt holding the pint did to deserve getting truncheoned in the leg like that... |
Probably nothing, but when you've got idiots facing up to a police force less tolerant than ours it's the kind of collateral damage you get. Easy enough to stop if people simply stop behaving like utter dickheads. | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:39 - Jun 6 with 1538 views | itfcjoe |
These videos always look worse than it is out there, but not a good look |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:46 - Jun 6 with 1515 views | ShropshireBluenago09 |
Whilst it is frustrating our country still has an issue with hooliganism after all these years, sadly i fear it wont go away anytime soon unless they are prevented from travelling to games. In this day and age, it should be fairly easy to video, pick out and ban/stop people from travelling.
What is more concerning is the way other countries seemingly get away with violence at big games and tournaments - see Russia, etc.
Its not just an English problem. |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:59 - Jun 6 with 1488 views | itfcjoe |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:46 - Jun 6 by ShropshireBluenago09 |
Whilst it is frustrating our country still has an issue with hooliganism after all these years, sadly i fear it wont go away anytime soon unless they are prevented from travelling to games. In this day and age, it should be fairly easy to video, pick out and ban/stop people from travelling.
What is more concerning is the way other countries seemingly get away with violence at big games and tournaments - see Russia, etc.
Its not just an English problem. |
You can't really ban people from travelling into Europe for getting drunk and chanting which is what the majority of this is | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:01 - Jun 6 with 1473 views | ShropshireBluenago09 |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:59 - Jun 6 by itfcjoe |
You can't really ban people from travelling into Europe for getting drunk and chanting which is what the majority of this is |
true, but you can from videos like this | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:04 - Jun 6 with 1465 views | itfcjoe |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:01 - Jun 6 by ShropshireBluenago09 |
true, but you can from videos like this |
How many of them are actually committing crimes though? | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:09 - Jun 6 with 1451 views | linhdi |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:33 - Jun 6 by Swansea_Blue |
Probably nothing, but when you've got idiots facing up to a police force less tolerant than ours it's the kind of collateral damage you get. Easy enough to stop if people simply stop behaving like utter dickheads. |
It is easy to get caught up in trouble at England away games. And it's just as easy to avoid it. I always took the avoid option. All it meant was avoiding large groups of people singing WW2 and anti-IRA songs, avoiding main squares, fanzones, the bar opposite the station and any Oirish bar. Leaving me 95% of any city and its bars for a few beers, usually meeting fans of loads of other clubs and having a great time. |  | | |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:15 - Jun 6 with 1436 views | Slambo |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 09:33 - Jun 6 by Swansea_Blue |
Probably nothing, but when you've got idiots facing up to a police force less tolerant than ours it's the kind of collateral damage you get. Easy enough to stop if people simply stop behaving like utter dickheads. |
True, but that copper went comically out of his way to smack him one... | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:20 - Jun 6 with 1424 views | uefacup81 |
Ooh! Pwopa Nawty!
#LadsLadsLads |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:21 - Jun 6 with 1422 views | ShropshireBluenago09 |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:04 - Jun 6 by itfcjoe |
How many of them are actually committing crimes though? |
Depends on the situation. I agree that a lot of this is blown out of proportion and the media hype/report minor events. | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:21 - Jun 6 with 1422 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:15 - Jun 6 by Slambo |
True, but that copper went comically out of his way to smack him one... |
Took in a bit of a swerve didn't he!  | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:22 - Jun 6 with 1418 views | uefacup81 |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:04 - Jun 6 by itfcjoe |
How many of them are actually committing crimes though? |
Arguably, if Portugal has an equivalent of s.5 of the Public Order Act, most of them. | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:31 - Jun 6 with 1375 views | itfcjoe |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:09 - Jun 6 by linhdi |
It is easy to get caught up in trouble at England away games. And it's just as easy to avoid it. I always took the avoid option. All it meant was avoiding large groups of people singing WW2 and anti-IRA songs, avoiding main squares, fanzones, the bar opposite the station and any Oirish bar. Leaving me 95% of any city and its bars for a few beers, usually meeting fans of loads of other clubs and having a great time. |
It's not quite that simple, because for some a lot of the fun is the drinking and socialising in the bigger venues like main squares and fan parks - and they don't want any trouble.
But the problem is the atmosphere can flip like a switch and often there is heavy handed policing to go with it and then the thing becomes a disaster | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:33 - Jun 6 with 1371 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
The issue should gradually disappear as more and more people become disabled by having a phone permanently attatched to one hand. |  |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:43 - Jun 6 with 1358 views | linhdi |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:31 - Jun 6 by itfcjoe |
It's not quite that simple, because for some a lot of the fun is the drinking and socialising in the bigger venues like main squares and fan parks - and they don't want any trouble.
But the problem is the atmosphere can flip like a switch and often there is heavy handed policing to go with it and then the thing becomes a disaster |
It is that simple. Not that you should always avoid main squares or Fanzones, but, if you do go there, you are simply at much higher risk of getting caught up in a fight. So, you make a choice.
In 13 years of doing every England away game plus a load of other games across Europe, I only ever got caught up in trouble once, in Spain, when the OB baton charged outside and inside the stadium. | | | |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:59 - Jun 6 with 1338 views | itfcjoe |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:43 - Jun 6 by linhdi |
It is that simple. Not that you should always avoid main squares or Fanzones, but, if you do go there, you are simply at much higher risk of getting caught up in a fight. So, you make a choice.
In 13 years of doing every England away game plus a load of other games across Europe, I only ever got caught up in trouble once, in Spain, when the OB baton charged outside and inside the stadium. |
But it's only that simple if you are happy to take a different approach to the trip - many aren't. I much preferred to be in the hub of the action when spending 5 or 6 years following England around and never saw any real trouble.
But things that look like big incidents on videos are often nothing when you are actually there - and then other times you can be caught up in things because the police have gone on the warpath. I had friends who were just smashed with batons by the OB in barcelona when nowhere near any trouble but because they were English fans and the police had had a bad day. They just pulled up alongside them, jumped out and smashed them in the legs for no reason before jumping back in and driving off. | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 12:59 - Jun 6 with 1257 views | portmanroadblue |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 10:31 - Jun 6 by itfcjoe |
It's not quite that simple, because for some a lot of the fun is the drinking and socialising in the bigger venues like main squares and fan parks - and they don't want any trouble.
But the problem is the atmosphere can flip like a switch and often there is heavy handed policing to go with it and then the thing becomes a disaster |
It never flips like a switch, have always seen it coming a mile off!!!!! As soon as old bill/riot police start turning up is the time to move on. |  | | |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 13:04 - Jun 6 with 1249 views | itfcjoe |
| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 12:59 - Jun 6 by portmanroadblue |
It never flips like a switch, have always seen it coming a mile off!!!!! As soon as old bill/riot police start turning up is the time to move on. |
You can see it coming, but a lot of time the OB are just standing there the whole day, waiting to go | |
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| Despite all the uncertainty in the UK, at least we’re consistent away on 13:20 - Jun 6 with 1219 views | footers |
Looks like the same bunch of pwopa nawty 'ard nuts who bottled going to Russia. Wonder why. |  |
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